Re: PB G4/400 freezes suddenly. Heat? (wasRe: LaCie drive forcesleeps TiBook 400)
Mikael Byström said: using a firewire disc I meant drive obviously. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: PB G4/400 freezes suddenly. Heat? (wasRe: LaCie drive forcesleeps TiBook 400)
Noone have any insights on this type of problem with a Powerbook G4 suddenly start to freeze after using a firewire disc? (See both earlier posts further down for details) If not, anyone care to say anything on strategy for measurement of temperature and other useful data? I've fixed simpler problems with the PB G4, more complicated problems in the wallstreets and Pismos, but this kind of freeze problem in a PB G4 is new to me. Mikael Byström said: It just got Worse! Three times since this drive encounter my whole machine have frozen 4+ times. It just freeze and there is nothing you can do except the three finger salute. There is no log of anything in the OS, indicating hardware failure. I did a Open Firmware set defaults, reset nvram reset all. This didn't improve anything. Then I popped up the keyboard and discovered that the connection cable from the PCMCIA slot had been disconnected from the motherboard. I reinserted it hoping this would solve matters. I think it froze four times since, one of them booting into single mode and stopped just after the first 20 lines. All of this because I pop in a firewire drive during sleep? Or did it just cause already broken things to surface? The new thing with the drive was that it was the first firewire unit I have used that needed bus power. Maybe this put some toll on the motherboard or something? Hmm, one thing I seem to notice is that my fan isn't running as far as I can tell. Maybe it stopped? How do one force start the fan? Will the Apple hardware test CD, that came with the machine, test the fan? If it doesn't, then maybe this is a heat problem? Any ideas on how to verify the fan operation or other ideas to solve this problem? I tried Temperature Monitor, but unfortunately only the HD SMART controller is supported on my Powerbook G4 400 and I noticed that when crashes occur the temp is 43° C/109.2°F after rebooting. The first troublefree time it's at 39°C to 42°C. Mikael Byström said earlier: Anyone know what this can be about? I sleep my TiBook 4oo with powercord in, insert a cordpowered firewiredrive and the machine refuses to wake up. It's not off, but HD seems to not spin up, just kinda sims about and display is dark. Three finger salute with drive disconnected, machine boots up and just before logging in I sleep it again, inserts the drive, it wakes up and I login and copy my files, eject the drive, sleeps it again, remove the drive and now the machine plays dead again. Another forced restart and everything is normal. Now, what conclusions are the to make here? I couldn't find much in the system log. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: LaCie drive forcesleeps TiBook 400
Anyone know what this can be about? I sleep my TiBook 4oo with powercord in, insert a cordpowered firewiredrive and the machine refuses to wake up. It's not off, but HD seems to not spin up, just kinda sims about and display is dark. Three finger salute with drive disconnected, machine boots up and just before logging in I sleep it again, inserts the drive, it wakes up and I login and copy my files, eject the drive, sleeps it again, remove the drive and now the machine plays dead again. Another forced restart and everything is normal. Now, what conclusions are the to make here? I couldn't find much in the system log. This was discussed elsewhere, the solution was don't plug/unplug USB or firewire devices while asleep, it causes coma. Not fun but its the only workable solution so far. John *--- A Thought for the Day * Jean Kerr wrote, If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, it's just possible you haven't grasped the situation. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
PB G4/400 freezes suddenly. Heat? (wasRe: LaCie drive forcesleeps TiBook 400)
It just got Worse! Three times since this drive encounter my whole machine have frozen 4+ times. It just freeze and there is nothing you can do except the three finger salute. There is no log of anything in the OS, indicating hardware failure. I did a Open Firmware set defaults, reset nvram reset all. This didn't improve anything. Then I popped up the keyboard and discovered that the connection cable from the PCMCIA slot had been disconnected from the motherboard. I reinserted it hoping this would solve matters. I think it froze four times since, one of them booting into single mode and stopped just after the first 20 lines. All of this because I pop in a firewire drive during sleep? Or did it just cause already broken things to surface? The new thing with the drive was that it was the first firewire unit I have used that needed bus power. Maybe this put some toll on the motherboard or something? Hmm, one thing I seem to notice is that my fan isn't running as far as I can tell. Maybe it stopped? How do one force start the fan? Will the Apple hardware test CD, that came with the machine, test the fan? If it doesn't, then maybe this is a heat problem? Any ideas on how to verify the fan operation or other ideas to solve this problem? I tried Temperature Monitor, but unfortunately only the HD SMART controller is supported on my Powerbook G4 400 and I noticed that when crashes occur the temp is 43° C/109.2°F after rebooting. The first troublefree time it's at 39°C to 42°C. Mikael Byström said earlier: Anyone know what this can be about? I sleep my TiBook 4oo with powercord in, insert a cordpowered firewiredrive and the machine refuses to wake up. It's not off, but HD seems to not spin up, just kinda sims about and display is dark. Three finger salute with drive disconnected, machine boots up and just before logging in I sleep it again, inserts the drive, it wakes up and I login and copy my files, eject the drive, sleeps it again, remove the drive and now the machine plays dead again. Another forced restart and everything is normal. Now, what conclusions are the to make here? I couldn't find much in the system log. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
LaCie drive forcesleeps TiBook 400
Anyone know what this can be about? I sleep my TiBook 4oo with powercord in, insert a cordpowered firewiredrive and the machine refuses to wake up. It's not off, but HD seems to not spin up, just kinda sims about and display is dark. Three finger salute with drive disconnected, machine boots up and just before logging in I sleep it again, inserts the drive, it wakes up and I login and copy my files, eject the drive, sleeps it again, remove the drive and now the machine plays dead again. Another forced restart and everything is normal. Now, what conclusions are the to make here? I couldn't find much in the system log. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
LaCie drive forcesleeps TiBook 400
Anyone know what this can be about? I sleep my TiBook 4oo with powercord in, insert a cordpowered firewiredrive and the machine refuses to wake up. It's not off, but HD seems to not spin up, just kinda sims about and display is dark. Three finger salute with drive disconnected, machine boots up and just before logging in I sleep it again, inserts the drive, it wakes up and I login and copy my files, eject the drive, sleeps it again, remove the drive and now the machine plays dead again. Another forced restart and everything is normal. Now, what conclusions are the to make here? I couldn't find much in the system log. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
