Re: Lombard Start
G-Books wrote on 2/11/06, 07:54: the drive controller in G3 PowerBooks is incompatible with ATA-6 hard drives. When replacing the internal hard drive, you should be sure to obtain an ATA-5 compliant drive, ** I've seen this warning posted before and wondered how one would be able to tell whether or not a drive was Ata5., Ata6 or what have you. I've also asked this question before and received no response. Thank you for your help in this matter. -- Brad 55417-1734 Pwr Mac G4 64 MB Radeon 7000 AGP Graphics OWC Mercury Extreme 1GHZ CPU Upgrade 1.15GB Ram 9GB Quantum Fireball/ OS 9.2.2 WDC 80GB/ OS X.4.4 Pioneer DVR 105 Pwr Mac G3 BW 64MB Radeon 7000 PCI Graphics card 450MHZ CPU 1gb ram 120 gb Maxtor DiamondMaxPlus X.4.4/80gb Hitachi Deskstar Sata harddrive X.4/ 40gb Maxtor DiamondMax ATA hard drive/9.2.2 Seritek SATA Controller card/Pioneer DVR 105 OS X.3.9/ Lexmark X1185 all- in- one printer Powerbook 3400c 200MHZ, 144MB ram, 2gig harddrive, OS 9.1, modules; floppy, cd-rom, zip drive Pwrbk G3 Lombard 128mb ram/4gb hard drive/ OS X.2.8 If it's good to you, it's good for you -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ATA-5 and ATA-6: The differences, and why it's important was Re: Lombard Start
G-Books wrote on 2/11/06, 17:16: On a typical PC, users and the OS have some level of control over just *how* the IDE interface(s) communicate with their drives -- they can tell a fast IDE controller to speak s-l-o-w-l-y with less-compliant drives. We Mac people have no such smarts available, and have to live with whatever defaults the chips are set up for. Hope this explains things :) Geoffrey Thanks very much Geoffrey this explains a lot but as most answers are wont to do this leads to another question; which is this is the ATA-4, -5,-6 designation on hard drives. Because I was given a laptop drive which I had planned to put in my Lombard when this ATA dilemma entered the picture. Now I'm trying to figure out how to determine the pedigree of this drive, which is currently residing in a firewire enclosure being prepped for the Lombard. Is it written on the drive. Or can it be determined from the drive information; such as manufacturer, model number, etc etc. Thanks for any and all assistance. -- Brad 55417-1734 Pwr Mac G4 64 MB Radeon 7000 AGP Graphics OWC Mercury Extreme 1GHZ CPU Upgrade 1.15GB Ram 9GB Quantum Fireball/ OS 9.2.2 WDC 80GB/ OS X.4.4 Pioneer DVR 105 Pwr Mac G3 BW 64MB Radeon 7000 PCI Graphics card 450MHZ CPU 1gb ram 120 gb Maxtor DiamondMaxPlus X.4.4/80gb Hitachi Deskstar Sata harddrive X.4/ 40gb Maxtor DiamondMax ATA hard drive/9.2.2 Seritek SATA Controller card/Pioneer DVR 105 OS X.3.9/ Lexmark X1185 all- in- one printer Pwrbk G3 Lombard 128mb ram/4gb hard drive/ OS X.2.8 If it's good to you, it's good for you -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Lombard Start
I'm trying to install OS X on a Lombard. Install CD freezes within the first 5 min of booting to the CD. I installed OS X to this HDD on an external FW drive from my Pismo, yet the Lombard will not boot to this drive. I can't seem to remember the boot commands from the keyboard to accomplish this. Can anyone point me in the right direction?, or some other fix? TIA Henry -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard Start
Stardate 060210.10:46 -0500. A subspace message from G Henry Taylor reads: I'm trying to install OS X on a Lombard. Which version of OSX? It's important. Geoffrey -- -- Endian Little Hate I --- -- I'm afraid music in the modern idiom is too repetitive for my tastes ... although the rhythm does have a certain hypnotic effect. -- Brains (International Rescue Engineer, 'Thunderbirds' (c) Gerry Anderson 1969) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard Start
On Feb 10, 2006, at 10:53 AM, Geoffrey Peters wrote: Stardate 060210.10:46 -0500. A subspace message from G Henry Taylor reads: I'm trying to install OS X on a Lombard. Which version of OSX? It's important. Geoffrey -- -- Endian Little Hate I --- -- I'm afraid music in the modern idiom is too repetitive for my tastes ... although the rhythm does have a certain hypnotic effect. -- Brains (International Rescue Engineer, 'Thunderbirds' (c) Gerry Anderson 1969) OS X 3.0, not 10.4 -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard Start
No need to quote all of my mail ;) Stardate 060210.12:18 -0500. A subspace message from G Henry Taylor reads: Which version of OSX? It's important. OS X 3.0, not 10.4 Have you recently tried to upgrade the hard-drive? I ask because of this little notice, from our very own databse: Warning According to the Road Warrior and Other World Computing, the drive controller in G3 PowerBooks is incompatible with ATA-6 hard drives. When replacing the internal hard drive, you should be sure to obtain an ATA-5 compliant drive, which supports transfer speeds of up to 100 MB/sec. If you have a non-compliant drive in there, it will play merry hell with anything else on the machine's ATA bus as well. Geoffrey -- -- Endian Little Hate I --- -- I'm afraid music in the modern idiom is too repetitive for my tastes ... although the rhythm does have a certain hypnotic effect. -- Brains (International Rescue Engineer, 'Thunderbirds' (c) Gerry Anderson 1969) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard Start
On Feb 10, 2006, at 12:28 PM, Geoffrey Peters wrote: Warning G3 PowerBooks is incompatible with ATA-6 hard drives. It's a refurbished Toshiba MK6021GAS 60 gig. Boots in my Pismo. I think it's the processor in the Lombard. I have the same problem when I try to install unbuntu to a smaller (4.35 Apple HDD) in the Lombard, just need a confirmation, or no. Henry -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard Start
Stardate 060210.12:38 -0500. A subspace message from G Henry Taylor reads: It's a refurbished Toshiba MK6021GAS 60 gig. Boots in my Pismo. Mmm, that's a compliant drive. I think it's the processor in the Lombard. I have the same problem when I try to install unbuntu to a smaller (4.35 Apple HDD) in the Lombard, How much RAM is in there? If you're adept, pop the keyboard, dive inside and remove both RAM modules and check their chip-number via Google to make sure the SO-DIMM is correctly labeled -- I've seen more than a few mis-labeled DIMMs in my time, some under-rated to the label, some over-rated. If either of them are Apple-badged, put that one back in and leave any after-market modules out (or if you replaced all Apple ones with 3rd-party's, put the Apple ones back in). To perform a stability test, boot off a Mac OS 9.1 Installer CD, launch Drive Setup, and leave it to do a drive test. This puts enough load on the CPU, RAM, and keeps the ATA bus busy. If it doesn't lock up after a test with the old RAM back in, then its the RAM. If it *does* lock up, then its the CPU that's failing. It could also be the ATA controller on the logicboard, or part of the bridge-board as well, but they're usually pretty sturdy (and if they decide to misbehave, they usually just stop dead). Geoffrey -- -- Endian Little Hate I --- -- I'm afraid music in the modern idiom is too repetitive for my tastes ... although the rhythm does have a certain hypnotic effect. -- Brains (International Rescue Engineer, 'Thunderbirds' (c) Gerry Anderson 1969) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Lombard Start
How much RAM is in there? 384. That's what came with the Lombard. I swapped out the processor with another working Lombard. Viola, no problem. Thanks for all your help. Henry -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
