Re: Lombard and OSX? And Panther?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Thursday, November 25, 2004, at 02:00 PM, Art Russell wrote:
An in-law is running a Lombard on OSX 10.2.6 without significant 
problems.

Will a Lombard support Panther, 10.3?
Yes it does, quite nicely. 10.3 is generally faster on supported 
systems than 10.2, provided you have sufficient memory.

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Re: Lombard and OSX?

[Bob]

The National Enquirer reports at 4:30 PM -0600 11/25/04, Rad Craig wrote:

>I got 10.2.8 to run on my Wallstreet, it had it on there when I got it, but
>didn't come with the CD, but it was VERY flaky, lots of mysterious lockups
>(couple times a day) and other problems.  I thought I'd blow it away, do a
>clean install with 10.3 and perhaps solve the problems, but I have never
>gotten it to finish the install.  I've tried it probably 30+ times with 4
>different XPF versions.

Just for the heck of it, I wonder how much memory you had in your 
Wallstreet, and whether you tried any different mem0ry modules in it? 
OS 9 was picker about memory quality than OS 8.5/6 was, and OS 10.2.x 
was picker than OS 9. I've recently run across some reports that 
10.3.x is even more strict when it comes to memory quality.

It's possible to run into install problems if the memory is not up to snuff.

I know I'm a day late and a dollar (or $275 ) short. But just for 
any future consideration.


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Re: Lombard and OSX?

[Dan K]

"Rad Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asks:
>I am looking at buying a Lombard to replace my Wallstreet so I can run OSX
>without problems.  I don't have very much info on this laptop and am trying
>to find the specs on it.  He said it was an m5343, so I believe it's a
>Lombard.  It's a 400mhz.  I have been trying to find the complete specs on
>Apple, but don't know which one it is, they show a bronze and a firewire for
>this speed, how do I tell which one this is?
>
>Will OSX run without problems on this machine?  I've had nothing but
>problems running it...or attempting to run it on my Wallstreet.
Easiest way distinguish between Pismo and Lombard is to read the name 
printed on the screen bezel. If just "PowerBook" then it's a Pismo, 
otherwise it's a Lombard.

A 400 Lombard can run any version of X (so far), the later the better.

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Re: Lombard and OSX?

[gladys pérez-almiroty]

thanks. i am about to upgrade my aunt's lombard and it is a relief to 
know it should run without problems.
g
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I am running Panther on a 400mhz lombard and it is fine. Video Fine 
also
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Re: Lombard and OSX?

[Art Russell]

All - Thanks for the word on running Panther on a Lombard.

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Re: Lombard and OSX?

[s_ellem]

I am running Panther on a 400mhz lombard and it is fine. Video Fine also

Quoting Rad Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> You are probably right, but I'm only doing this because I can get this
> laptop, that will allow me to run OSX, without costing me anything.  I can
> buy it for $275 and I think I can get that much out of my Wallstreet, or
> very close to it.
> 
> Of course if you know of any Pismos for sale for $300, let me know and I'll
> definitely get one of those instead.  :)
> 
> What is the 'family number' of a Pismo?  Like the m5343 for the Lombards.
> 
> 
> Rad...
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alejandro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 3:36 PM
> > To: G-Books
> > Subject: Re: Lombard and OSX?
> >
> >
> > Hi.
> > You should buy a Pismo (FireWire), because the Lombard
> > is NOT fully supported on OS X.
> > Of course, Apple says it's "supported" (they SELL
> > Software, remember?) but the Video Card is NOT, so you
> > will not be able to play a DVD decently or run a
> > Screensaver (it looks like a Picture SlideShow).
> > The Pismo is fully supported and has better
> > performance on OS X thanks to the Video support wich
> > helps the processor (in Lombards the processor makes
> > Everything).
> > Thanks Apple !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Rad Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I am looking at buying a Lombard to replace my
> > > Wallstreet so I can run OSX
> > > without problems.  I don't have very much info on
> > > this laptop and am trying
> > > to find the specs on it.  He said it was an m5343,
> > > so I believe it's a
> > > Lombard.  It's a 400mhz.  I have been trying to find
> > > the complete specs on
> > > Apple, but don't know which one it is, they show a
> > > bronze and a firewire for
> > > this speed, how do I tell which one this is?
> > >
> > > Will OSX run without problems on this machine?  I've
> > > had nothing but
> > > problems running it...or attempting to run it on my
> > > Wallstreet.
> > >
> > > Thanks and Happy Turkey Day.
> > >
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Re: Lombard and OSX?

[Mary Russell]

Bronze is lombard.  My husband has a lombard 333 and I put 10.3.6 on 
it.  It's running exceptionally
fine. 
Mary

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am looking at buying a Lombard to replace my Wallstreet so I can run OSX
without problems.  I don't have very much info on this laptop and am trying
to find the specs on it.  He said it was an m5343, so I believe it's a
Lombard.  It's a 400mhz.  I have been trying to find the complete specs on
Apple, but don't know which one it is, they show a bronze and a firewire for
this speed, how do I tell which one this is?
Will OSX run without problems on this machine?  I've had nothing but
problems running it...or attempting to run it on my Wallstreet.
Thanks and Happy Turkey Day.
Rad...

 

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Re: Lombard and OSX?

[Rad Craig]

I got 10.2.8 to run on my Wallstreet, it had it on there when I got it, but
didn't come with the CD, but it was VERY flaky, lots of mysterious lockups
(couple times a day) and other problems.  I thought I'd blow it away, do a
clean install with 10.3 and perhaps solve the problems, but I have never
gotten it to finish the install.  I've tried it probably 30+ times with 4
different XPF versions.

Thus why I want something newer.  I use a QS867 at work, but when I come
home I have to use a thinkpad instead of what I want to run (my mac laptop)
and I hate it.

But I can only do this if it doesn't cost me anything right now.  Wish Santa
would drop a brand new aluminum laptop in my stocking, but will probably get
coal instead.  :(

Rad...

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> Subject: Re: Lombard and OSX?
>
>
> At 11:58 AM -0600 11/25/04, Rad Craig wrote:
> >I am looking at buying a Lombard to replace my Wallstreet so I
> can run OSX
> >without problems.  I don't have very much info on this laptop
> and am trying
> >to find the specs on it.  He said it was an m5343, so I believe it's a
> >Lombard.  It's a 400mhz.  I have been trying to find the
> complete specs on
> >Apple, but don't know which one it is, they show a bronze and a
> firewire for
> >this speed, how do I tell which one this is?
> >
> >Will OSX run without problems on this machine?  I've had nothing but
> >problems running it...or attempting to run it on my Wallstreet.
>
> Bronze is Lombard and Firewire is Pismo.
>
> Panther or Jaguar will run directly a a Lombard.  I did put Panther
> on one but never used it.
>
> Jaguar works fine on my Wallstreet.
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Re: Lombard and OSX?

[Rad Craig]

You are probably right, but I'm only doing this because I can get this
laptop, that will allow me to run OSX, without costing me anything.  I can
buy it for $275 and I think I can get that much out of my Wallstreet, or
very close to it.

Of course if you know of any Pismos for sale for $300, let me know and I'll
definitely get one of those instead.  :)

What is the 'family number' of a Pismo?  Like the m5343 for the Lombards.


Rad...

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> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 3:36 PM
> To: G-Books
> Subject: Re: Lombard and OSX?
>
>
> Hi.
> You should buy a Pismo (FireWire), because the Lombard
> is NOT fully supported on OS X.
> Of course, Apple says it's "supported" (they SELL
> Software, remember?) but the Video Card is NOT, so you
> will not be able to play a DVD decently or run a
> Screensaver (it looks like a Picture SlideShow).
> The Pismo is fully supported and has better
> performance on OS X thanks to the Video support wich
> helps the processor (in Lombards the processor makes
> Everything).
> Thanks Apple !
>
>
>
>
> --- Rad Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I am looking at buying a Lombard to replace my
> > Wallstreet so I can run OSX
> > without problems.  I don't have very much info on
> > this laptop and am trying
> > to find the specs on it.  He said it was an m5343,
> > so I believe it's a
> > Lombard.  It's a 400mhz.  I have been trying to find
> > the complete specs on
> > Apple, but don't know which one it is, they show a
> > bronze and a firewire for
> > this speed, how do I tell which one this is?
> >
> > Will OSX run without problems on this machine?  I've
> > had nothing but
> > problems running it...or attempting to run it on my
> > Wallstreet.
> >
> > Thanks and Happy Turkey Day.
> >
> >
> > Rad...
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Re: Lombard and OSX?

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At 11:58 AM -0600 11/25/04, Rad Craig wrote:
I am looking at buying a Lombard to replace my Wallstreet so I can run OSX
without problems.  I don't have very much info on this laptop and am trying
to find the specs on it.  He said it was an m5343, so I believe it's a
Lombard.  It's a 400mhz.  I have been trying to find the complete specs on
Apple, but don't know which one it is, they show a bronze and a firewire for
this speed, how do I tell which one this is?
Will OSX run without problems on this machine?  I've had nothing but
problems running it...or attempting to run it on my Wallstreet.
Bronze is Lombard and Firewire is Pismo.
Panther or Jaguar will run directly a a Lombard.  I did put Panther 
on one but never used it.

Jaguar works fine on my Wallstreet.
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Re: Lombard and OSX? And Panther?

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on 25/11/04 16:00, Art Russell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> An in-law is running a Lombard on OSX 10.2.6 without significant problems.
> 
> Will a Lombard support Panther, 10.3?
> 

I think it does. If I remember correctly, the requirements for Panther call
for built-in USB, so the Lombard would qualify...

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Re: Lombard and OSX?

[Laurent Daudelin]

on 25/11/04 12:58, Rad Craig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am looking at buying a Lombard to replace my Wallstreet so I can run OSX
> without problems.  I don't have very much info on this laptop and am trying
> to find the specs on it.  He said it was an m5343, so I believe it's a
> Lombard.  It's a 400mhz.  I have been trying to find the complete specs on
> Apple, but don't know which one it is, they show a bronze and a firewire for
> this speed, how do I tell which one this is?
> 
> Will OSX run without problems on this machine?  I've had nothing but
> problems running it...or attempting to run it on my Wallstreet.
> 
> Thanks and Happy Turkey Day.
> 
> 
> Rad...
> 
> 

The "bronze" was considered the Lombard. It doesn't have FireWire, just USB.

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Re: Lombard and OSX? And Panther?

[Art Russell]

An in-law is running a Lombard on OSX 10.2.6 without significant problems.

Will a Lombard support Panther, 10.3?


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