Re: Lombard issues, cache failure

[Andrew in Ann Arbor]

On Oct 10, 2005, at 12:07, G-Books wrote:


From my experiences with Lombards (I have a 400mhz) the freezing and
non-booting could be from a faulty processor.

Is there some kind of pattern to the non-functioning? When it cannot 
boot at

all; is that only after it crashes after it starts up & freezes?

It sounds like you're thinking it could be the OS; I think it may be 
a faulty
processor card, and/or maybe an overheating one. Would you happen to 
have /

access to an extra Lombard processor?

Ivy F.


You could try disabling the L2 cache with some third party software
like CPU director.


In my experience a failed L2 cache will announce itself with a pop up 
message on startup, something like:


"The built in memory test has detected a problem with cache memory. 
Please contact a service technician for assistance."


It never stopped the computer from starting (once you acknowledged the 
message) and it seemed to run fine without the cache.
I expect it might have been slower but never did any benchmarks to 
check.


Best of luck.

Andrew in Ann Arbor


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Re: Lombard issues

[Tom and Lisa P]

 >> It sounds like you're thinking it could be the OS; I think it 
may be a faulty

 processor card, and/or maybe an overheating one. Would you happen to have /
 access to an extra Lombard processor?




 You could try disabling the L2 cache with some third party software
 like CPU director.  Or, try running the unit with a fan blowing on
 the CPU heatsink directly.


I do have a fan hooked to the lamp blowing under the bottom of the Lombard
which is perched on a book to raise it up...

is that what you meant?

Kristina


If this is a CPU-heat problem (failing CPU), lift the keyboard off 
the CPU cover and blow the fan on top of the CPU cover.  This will 
coll the CPU to the maximum extent.


Mad Dog

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Re: Lombard issues

[Howard Katz]

There are a bunch of Mac users in the Region tho I don't seen any user
groups listed for the entire northern part of Indiana (I'm surprised
there isn't one in Mich.City or South Bend).  Try the IL
listing--there's 3 listed in Chicago.  (Our user group listed there,
the Aurora Area Apple Core is the only all-Apple II user group still
in existance in IL  :)  )

Later..Howard

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Re: Lombard issues

[Kristina]

>> It sounds like you're thinking it could be the OS; I think it may be a faulty
>> processor card, and/or maybe an overheating one. Would you happen to have /
>> access to an extra Lombard processor?

> 
> You could try disabling the L2 cache with some third party software
> like CPU director.  Or, try running the unit with a fan blowing on
> the CPU heatsink directly.

I do have a fan hooked to the lamp blowing under the bottom of the Lombard
which is perched on a book to raise it up...

is that what you meant?

Kristina


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Re: Lombard issues

[Kristina]

on 10/10/05 6:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Sorry to hear about your problems with your Lombard.

thanks for the comiseration...

> From my experiences with Lombards (I have a 400mhz) the feeezing and
> non-booting could be from a faulty processor.

> Would you happen to have /
> access to an extra Lombard processor?

I am the only macuser...in chicagoland...or so it seems

I actually live in NW Indiana...my husband commutes...

I don't even know where there is ANY shop that works on Macs. Originally
from Dayton OHio where Wright Patt Air force base...they use macs...i think

anyway its a big graphics town so there are many  mac  friends but not here
in IN.

Kristina


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Re: Lombard issues

[Tom and Lisa P]

Sorry to hear about your problems with your Lombard.

From my experiences with Lombards (I have a 400mhz) the feeezing and
non-booting could be from a faulty processor.

Is there some kind of pattern to the non-functioning? When it cannot boot at
all; is that only after it crashes after it starts up & freezes?

It sounds like you're thinking it could be the OS; I think it may be a faulty
processor card, and/or maybe an overheating one. Would you happen to have /
access to an extra Lombard processor?

Ivy F.


You could try disabling the L2 cache with some third party software 
like CPU director.  Or, try running the unit with a fan blowing on 
the CPU heatsink directly.


Mad Dog

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Re: Lombard issues

[GalBros]

Sorry to hear about your problems with your Lombard. 

>From my experiences with Lombards (I have a 400mhz) the feeezing and 
non-booting could be from a faulty processor.

Is there some kind of pattern to the non-functioning? When it cannot boot at 
all; is that only after it crashes after it starts up & freezes?

It sounds like you're thinking it could be the OS; I think it may be a faulty 
processor card, and/or maybe an overheating one. Would you happen to have / 
access to an extra Lombard processor?

Ivy F.


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Re: Lombard issues

[Kristina]

on 10/10/05 12:19 PM, R. P. Bell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Where are you, Kristina?
> 
chicagoland

> Did the tech tell you that a hardware failure occurred?
> 
No ...only...that the DVD CDR was bad...i knew that...and some g-book member
reavok sold me a new one Sept 14 but he hasn't sent it yet...sigh!

also the battery was at about 3/4 power-full...and should think about
replacing it...

> If so, what failed?
> 
Well I think nothing actually...

> And,  did you request that he add "gobs of shareware and do dads"
> 
not exactly, I actually think he thought he was doing me a favor with
"goodies"


> (I ask that, because that may be part of your problem, esp. running OS 9.2.x).
> 
> We can probably resolve your issues at no cost
> 
just in my budget

> and if you are local, I'll be  happy to see what's up.
> 
wish you were

> Have you tried a clean install of OS 9.1 (your Lombard is not "equipped" to
> run 9.2.x and I opine that you are ~probably~ better off to go back to 9.1).
> 
originally this machine came to me from ebay...with  OS X on it. All my
graphic design software is older so I am happy to stay in 9x.

I did a disk wipe and clean install then...replaced the HD and still
not  a viable machine. The tech friend thought it was software related and
reworked things and saved my data.

Only now  I can't just boot it up work on it and have a happy mac face...

Now it doesn't open at all...tho the pb did open all the way to my usual
desktop this afternoon all 3 partitions showing and my files

then...i went to the partition which had DiskWarrior and did a restart and
the dumb thing wont open again. Can't tell you why that particular force
start worked and the restart didn't , nor any of the subsequent force starts
only bring a chime and grey screen...

Kristina


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Re: Lombard issues

[R. P. Bell]

Where are you, Kristina?

Did the tech tell you that a hardware failure occurred? If so, what failed? 
And, 
did you request that he add "gobs of shareware
and do dads" (I ask that, because that may be part of your problem, esp. 
running 
OS 9.2.x).

We can probably resolve your issues at no cost and if you are local, I'll be 
happy to see what's up.  Have you tried a clean install of OS 9.1 (your Lombard 
is not "equipped" to run 9.2.x and I opine that you are ~probably~ better off 
to 
go back to 9.1).

rb

San Bernardino CA 92404 


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Lombard issues

[Kristina]

In August I sent my Lombard to a tech I met here on the G-books list. He
apparently spent much time and effort and my 250.00. Unfortunately the
problem still exists. It worked fine he says for him...but  from the time I
got it back it would still lock up or not start...and it has been getting
worse. I have kids who must do school work online and its been heartbreaking
to loose imputing when time is an issue. The tech added gobs of shareware
and do dads...I just want it to work plain and simple.

Last week the  daughter took the laptop to another location to work on
school work...at the new location it wouldn't start up...She brought it home
where it started fine, did a bit of work and then we shut it down for  4
days, while we camped. Today it won't boot past Chime. I am running OS 9.2.2
and it is the 366 MHz model.

I have tried the reset button on the back of the pb...force quits, and CD s.
Once I actually  did get all the way thru the nice new pictures the tech put
on it...to the window that says Disk Aid will repair ... when it froze
again... and I have opened up the machine and "tucked" things...
remembering  some of you suggest seating motherboards and daughterboards.

I don't have the right tech skills or  language to talk specifically but I
have been on a mac  for 16 years. I very upset with this machine and the
tech who has told me that's it too bad...as he thinks I am doing things to
the pb. I am not. I work everyday from my G3 beige, same system, same
probrams,  same way, no problem.

Are powerbooks always this unstable?

My expenses,  buying the pb and the recent repairs far exceed its value
now... but I would like to get this problem fixed. I am in the Chicagoland
area.

can anyone give advise or a reputable repair?

Kristina
I don't want to upgrade to OS X.



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