Re: Orinoco Gold and TiBook G4
Andrew F. said: Who is the vendor of the card? If its the Proxim card (or a number of other brands) it may be of a newer type that neither the SourceForge nor the IOExperts drivers support. It's Agere Systems and was made in 2002. It has 128bit RC4 encryption. Thing is it is known to work from the former owner of both the card and the IOXperts license that came with it. I'm not sure about versions, but besides serialno and MACAdress it says T/N is 33S02716, P/N 025075/A and LT-14E0210. Anything I can learn from this? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Orinoco Gold and TiBook G4
The National Enquirer reports at 7:38 AM -0800 12/17/04, Andrew F. wrote: On 12/16/04 10:42 PM, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The National Enquirer reports at 2:06 PM -0700 12/16/04, Bill Gau wrote: Indeed, I just went down this road yesterday. NONE of these cards are supported as per their website: ORiNOCO 11a/b/g ComboCard ORiNOCO 11b/g PC Card ORiNOCO 11b Client Gold PC Card (8420-wd) ORiNOCO 11b Client Silver PC Card (8421-wd) But, if it's the Classic Gold PC card (8410-wd) I believe the IOXperts driver should work. If not, I *know* the Sourceforge freeware driver works. Take a look at Ken Vann's excellent wireless list for your compatibility questions. http://www.home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/ Do you have the right settings selected regarding the card and the port in OS X? Bob Who is the vendor of the card? My Classic Gold card (802.11b) is an Orinoco card. If you're familiar with the history of the original Lucent wireless technology, Lucent became (I'm not sure this is the exact order, but the names are correct) Orinoco, then Agere (moved to Agere Systems under the Orinoco name), then Avaya, and Proxim. To the best of my knowledge the same Lucent technology and the Hermes chipset is used in all of the cards sold by the above companies -- and several others as well -- **until** the some of the Proxim cards. But according to the URL below, even the Proxim 8420 and 8430 should work at least with the IOXperts driver. A site I rely on heavily for chipset and driver information (although it does not cover the sourceforge driver) is: http://home.earthlink.net/~metaphyzx/Wireless.htm If its the Proxim card (or a number of other brands) it may be of a newer type that neither the SourceForge nor the IOExperts drivers support. You need to start with the model # of your card. Then you can go to the URL immediately above and see what chipset it has and what drivers will support it. I bought a Proxim Orinoco Gold and had no luck with either Can you be more specific on what you mean by had no luck with either? What exactly were you trying to connect to? I have found that the WiFi paradigm can be filled with so many gotcha's that it's not funny. I usually recommend that folks set up things with the absolutely simplest configuration (no passwords, no WEP, no closed network etc), and try to connect to a known working Apple Base Station network if at all possible. That eliminates a lot of the unknown snakepits that will drive a new user crazy. Once things are working on the elementary level, then you can proceed on to passwording, WEP, MAC address filtering, and other complexities. There is an excellent step-by-step initial setup list at http://www.penmachine.com/techie/airport1400.html. Although it refers to the Orinoco software, the same principles apply when using Apple's software or a 3rd-party driver. , the card is not built on the older chipset, and is sadly PC-only at present. I don't know if Proxim has come out with any new 802.11b cards in the past few years or not, but according to the Wirless.htm URL all Proxim 11b cards should work with the IOXperts and/or the Sourceforge drivers -- except for the Skyline USB card. As Laurent has indicated numerous times, it's not the brand name on the card that's the critical issue, it's the chipset that it uses that determines its compatibility. Ken Vann has an entire section (5.3) on his Web site referencing URLs that have technical, or owner's, documentation for the Lucent/Orinoco/Agere /Avaya/Proxim cards. Maybe something there would help you. http://www.home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/ I'm pretty beat tonight. I hope I have made sense and not messed up what I was trying to say. Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Orinoco Gold and TiBook G4
The National Enquirer reports at 5:20 PM +0100 12/17/04, Mikael Byström wrote: Bob said: snip Do you have the right settings selected regarding the card and the port in OS X? Settings? The card isn't detected, so I see no possibility to change any settings. Did you mean from somewhere else? How do you know the card isn't being detected? The card won't show up on the desktop, and Apple's Airport software won't detect the Gold Card. Have you checked the System Profiler in OS X to see if the Gold Card shows up there (it won't be identified as an Orinoco card, or perhaps not even as a WiFi card, I don't remember for sure, but it should show up in the proper en slot -- see below). I'll ask you the same question that I asked Andrew earlier in this thread -- exactly what kind of network connection are trying to make? Is it through a 3rd-party WAP or an Apple ABS? Is it an open network, or a closed network? Is it encrypted? Lots of questions. I'm not in OS X now and it's been quite a while since I set my Gold card up in X. But here are a few things I recall. * You need to go to System Preferences Network Network Port Configurations, and select the WiFi card there. If it does not show up, try quitting and relaunching System Preferences. * Do you just have one PCMCIA slot on the TiBook? It should be designated as en1 or en2 I believe, and that has to be correctly selected when you set up your TCP/IP settings for the Gold Card. * If you have an internal Apple Airport card in your TiBook, you *may* have to remove it for the Orinoco card to be recognized. I'm not sure I have helped you much, Mikael. I'm having a hard time getting the grey matter between the ears to work tonight. If I haven't hit the nail on the head, hopefully I have said something that will push you in the right direction. Good Luck, Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Orinoco Gold and TiBook G4
From: Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who is the vendor of the card? If its the Proxim card (or a number of other brands) it may be of a newer type that neither the SourceForge nor the IOExperts drivers support. I bought a Proxim Orinoco Gold and had no luck with either, the card is not built on the older chipset, and is sadly PC-only at present. Andrew Hello everyone. Before you purchase any Orinoco card to use on the Mac, download the Orinoco Selection Guide. Only the 8410-wd and 8410-jp (Orinoco Classic Gold Cards) support the Mac under the Classic OS, and the Sourgeforce driver supports this card under OS X. PC Cards are price sensative and vendors do change chip sets in order to shave pennies from the cost of manfacturing. A good example is Belkin taking the 802.11g card which used the Broadcom Chip set and replacing it with a Ralink Technologh Inc chip set. While there web site still list it a Mac compatabe (using Airport Software under OS X) the new ones comming off the assembly line are not and need aditional software. I will see that this link is put on my Wireless FAQ site. Ken Vann http://www.proxim.com/products/wifi/client/ORiNOCO_Client_Selection_Guide.pdf == Old Macs have new uses with WiFi. See my FAQ for what you need at http://home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Orinoco Gold and TiBook G4
Bob said: IOXperts driver should work. If not, I *know* the Sourceforge freeware driver works. I'll try that as well. Take a look at Ken Vann's excellent wireless list for your compatibility questions. http://www.home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/ Thanks. Do you have the right settings selected regarding the card and the port in OS X? Settings? The card isn't detected, so I see no possibility to change any settings. Did you mean from somewhere else? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Orinoco Gold and TiBook G4
Are there any reason why an Orinoco Gold card shouldn't work in the PCMCIAslot and IOXperts latest driver. IOXPerts state their software is compatible with both the card and all the Powerbook G4s. So what gives? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Orinoco Gold and TiBook G4
On 16/12/04 13:18, Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any reason why an Orinoco Gold card shouldn't work in the PCMCIAslot and IOXperts latest driver. IOXPerts state their software is compatible with both the card and all the Powerbook G4s. So what gives? There might be 2 reasons why it doesn't work: the card is defective or it's using a newer, different chipset than what the IOXPerts driver expect... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Orinoco Gold and TiBook G4
The National Enquirer reports at 2:06 PM -0700 12/16/04, Bill Gau wrote: Indeed, I just went down this road yesterday. NONE of these cards are supported as per their website: ORiNOCO 11a/b/g ComboCard ORiNOCO 11b/g PC Card ORiNOCO 11b Client Gold PC Card (8420-wd) ORiNOCO 11b Client Silver PC Card (8421-wd) But, if it's the Classic Gold PC card (8410-wd) I believe the IOXperts driver should work. If not, I *know* the Sourceforge freeware driver works. Take a look at Ken Vann's excellent wireless list for your compatibility questions. http://www.home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/ Do you have the right settings selected regarding the card and the port in OS X? Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Orinoco Gold and TiBook G4
Indeed, I just went down this road yesterday. NONE of these cards are supported as per their website: ORiNOCO 11a/b/g ComboCard ORiNOCO 11b/g PC Card ORiNOCO 11b Client Gold PC Card (8420-wd) ORiNOCO 11b Client Silver PC Card (8421-wd) These are the latest cards as identified by the rounded antenna. Good luck. On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 19:18:09 +0100, Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any reason why an Orinoco Gold card shouldn't work in the PCMCIAslot and IOXperts latest driver. IOXPerts state their software is compatible with both the card and all the Powerbook G4s. So what gives? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
