Pismo Bluechip G3 900 Eats My Battery

2003-10-01 Thread Mark Edward Attew
I have my Bluechip G3 900MHz upgrade happily accelerating everything Mac
on my Pismo and so far the performance boost is tremendous.

My only complaint is battery time...before the upgrade while I was
running at 400Mhz, my battery would last about 3.5 to 4 hours which is
pretty good considering the age of the battery. With the upgrade in
place, I am lucky now if I can get 1.5 t 2 hours, usually closer to 1.5
out of a full charge.

I know I am running more than twice the CPU speed and expected a
decrease in battery time, but there are folks with G3 900 iBooks who get
better than 1.5 hours in their machines.

I tried slowing the clock speed down, which you can do using a little
application named CPU Director, but even slowing it down to 400MHz
doesn't increase the battery life.

Is it time to invest in a second battery to get 3 hours or is there some
other way to improve the battery life?

I've used Energy Saver to optimize for battery life, but this doesn't
buy me too many minutes.

Mark


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Re: Pismo Bluechip G3 900 Eats My Battery

2003-10-01 Thread Eugene Lee
On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 09:50:17AM -0700, Mark Edward Attew wrote:
: 
: I have my Bluechip G3 900MHz upgrade happily accelerating everything Mac
: on my Pismo and so far the performance boost is tremendous.
: 
: My only complaint is battery time...before the upgrade while I was
: running at 400Mhz, my battery would last about 3.5 to 4 hours which is
: pretty good considering the age of the battery. With the upgrade in
: place, I am lucky now if I can get 1.5 t 2 hours, usually closer to 1.5
: out of a full charge.
: 
: I know I am running more than twice the CPU speed and expected a
: decrease in battery time, but there are folks with G3 900 iBooks who get
: better than 1.5 hours in their machines.

The iBooks have different, newer, and most likely more energy efficient
hardware than your Pismo.

: Is it time to invest in a second battery to get 3 hours or is there some
: other way to improve the battery life?

I prefer the extra battery.  IMO, if a notebook can't stay on for at
least 2 hours per battery, it's not worth buying in the first place.


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Re: Pismo Bluechip G3 900 Eats My Battery

2003-09-30 Thread Jeff Drummond
Shane Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I generally see 3.5 hours on my battery running everything at full.  
Volume, LCD brightness, etc.  I do see less if I'm burning a CD or 
watching a DVD.
I have the 900Mhz snow iBook.

I would say 1.5 hours is pretty good for upgrading that much.  Without 
looking up the specs, I'm sure your upgraded processor pulls more 
wattage than the old one.  Your battery was designed with the old 
processor in mind.  Even running it at slower cycles, your probably 
still going to pull out more wattage than before.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that the PPC750FX chip that PowerLogix uses for
their Bluechip upgrades draws *less* power than the original PPC750--all
else being equal.


For the original poster:

  Is it possible that some power saving options got changed or reset
during the upgrade?  Resetting them and/or zapping the PRAM might help.
Also, is this your original battery?  If so, it's probably nearing the
end of its usable life.  Powerbook batteries usually degrade over time,
but I've heard of a few cases where they seemed to go south rather
abruptly--so it could just be a coincidence.  If you know someone with a
known good battery, it might be worth trying it out.  Finally, have you
contacted PowerLogix?

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Pismo Bluechip G3 900 Eats My Battery

2003-09-29 Thread Mark Edward Attew
I have my Bluechip G3 900MHz upgrade happily accelerating everything Mac
on my Pismo and so far the performance boost is tremendous.

My only complaint is battery time...before the upgrade while I was
running at 400Mhz, my battery would last about 3.5 to 4 hours which is
pretty good considering the age of the battery. With the upgrade in
place, I am lucky now if I can get 1.5 t 2 hours, usually closer to 1.5
out of a full charge.

I know I am running more than twice the CPU speed and expected a
decrease in battery time, but there are folks with G3 900 iBooks who get
better than 1.5 hours in their machines.

I tried slowing the clock speed down, which you can do using a little
application named CPU Director, but even slowing it down to 400MHz
doesn't increase the battery life.

Is it time to invest in a second battery to get 3 hours or is there some
other way to improve the battery life?

I've used Energy Saver to optimize for battery life, but this doesn't
buy me too many minutes.

Mark


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Re: Pismo Bluechip G3 900 Eats My Battery

2003-09-29 Thread Shane Wolfe
I generally see 3.5 hours on my battery running everything at full.  
Volume, LCD brightness, etc.  I do see less if I'm burning a CD or 
watching a DVD.
I have the 900Mhz snow iBook.

I would say 1.5 hours is pretty good for upgrading that much.  Without 
looking up the specs, I'm sure your upgraded processor pulls more 
wattage than the old one.  Your battery was designed with the old 
processor in mind.  Even running it at slower cycles, your probably 
still going to pull out more wattage than before.

On Monday, Sep 29, 2003, at 18:53 US/Eastern, Mark Edward Attew wrote:

I have my Bluechip G3 900MHz upgrade happily accelerating everything 
Mac
on my Pismo and so far the performance boost is tremendous.


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Re: Pismo Bluechip G3 900 Eats My Battery

2003-09-29 Thread Krevnik
It also depends on the revision of 750 is in the Bluechip versus on the 
original CPU card. The Powerbook G3s were pretty bad on the 
power-efficiency compared to the current G3 crop. Even the first-gen 
G4s had better power efficiency than the G3s the Lombard and Pismo came 
with. (Just working towards my next paycheck, wanting a Bluechip LS 
G4/500 for my Lombard)

On Monday, September 29, 2003, at 04:03 PM, Shane Wolfe wrote:

I generally see 3.5 hours on my battery running everything at full.  
Volume, LCD brightness, etc.  I do see less if I'm burning a CD or 
watching a DVD.
I have the 900Mhz snow iBook.

I would say 1.5 hours is pretty good for upgrading that much.  Without 
looking up the specs, I'm sure your upgraded processor pulls more 
wattage than the old one.  Your battery was designed with the old 
processor in mind.  Even running it at slower cycles, your probably 
still going to pull out more wattage than before.

On Monday, Sep 29, 2003, at 18:53 US/Eastern, Mark Edward Attew wrote:

I have my Bluechip G3 900MHz upgrade happily accelerating everything 
Mac
on my Pismo and so far the performance boost is tremendous.


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Re: Pismo Bluechip G3 900 Eats My Battery

2003-09-29 Thread Shane Wolfe
Yes.  Forgot to mention that.  The G3 750 that's in the 900Mhz  iBook 
is a low power version.

On Monday, Sep 29, 2003, at 20:05 US/Eastern, Krevnik wrote:

It also depends on the revision of 750 is in the Bluechip versus on 
the original CPU card. The Powerbook G3s were pretty bad on the 
power-efficiency compared to the current G3 crop. Even the first-gen 
G4s had better power efficiency than the G3s the Lombard and Pismo 
came with. (Just working towards my next paycheck, wanting a Bluechip 
LS G4/500 for my Lombard)

On Monday, September 29, 2003, at 04:03 PM, Shane Wolfe wrote:


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Re: Pismo Bluechip G3 900 Eats My Battery

2003-09-29 Thread Andrew Kershaw
I would say 1.5 hours is pretty good for upgrading that much. 
Without looking up the specs, I'm sure your upgraded processor pulls 
more wattage than the old one.  Your battery was designed with the 
old processor in mind.  Even running it at slower cycles, your 
probably still going to pull out more wattage than before.
Well, that I'm _not_ sure of.  Newer processors are typically more 
efficient than older ones - for instance, many 1400/603e owners that 
have upgraded to G3s have reported LONGER battery lives.  Reducing 
the processor speed back down to 400MHz ought to have a notable 
difference in power consumption.

Here's a silly question: Are you sure it's the same battery that you 
sent out with the computer?

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