Re: Pismo G3 900MHz or G4 500MHz
Jeff Drummond wrote: I don't think I could justify spending much money upgrading a 4.5 year old [Pismo] computer. Buying an already-upgraded one might make a bit more sense but it really depends on your situation. Good point Jeff. I was revisiting the Pismos wondering how the new PB release is effecting pricing. I'm using a 3400. So even a Wallstreet would represent a big upgrade for me. G3 900 MHz upgrade, and if you go through the CPU Upgrade database at XLR8YOURMAC http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/, there are more than a few very negative reviews. I wonder what is your experience Andrew? Cliff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo G3 900MHz or G4 500MHz
I'd skip the Wallstreet and go straight to a Lombard or Pismo, much better OSX support, not to mention slimmer and lighter. Andrew On 16 Feb 2005 at 12:17, CR wrote: Jeff Drummond wrote: I don't think I could justify spending much money upgrading a 4.5 year old [Pismo] computer. Buying an already-upgraded one might make a bit more sense but it really depends on your situation. Good point Jeff. I was revisiting the Pismos wondering how the new PB release is effecting pricing. I'm using a 3400. So even a Wallstreet would represent a big upgrade for me. G3 900 MHz upgrade, and if you go through the CPU Upgrade database at XLR8YOURMAC http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/, there are more than a few very negative reviews. I wonder what is your experience Andrew? Cliff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo G3 900MHz or G4 500MHz
On Feb 16, 2005, at 12:17 PM, CR wrote: Jeff Drummond wrote: I don't think I could justify spending much money upgrading a 4.5 year old [Pismo] computer. Buying an already-upgraded one might make a bit more sense but it really depends on your situation. Personally, I think it comes down to two things: The need for VRAM and how much you have invested in Expansion Bay devices. Both of these factors are usually the make/break upgrade decision when it comes to moving up from Pismo. The VRAM is the only thing in a Pismo that can't be upgraded. And once you upgrade, the Expansion Bay Devices have to stay with Pismo. Plus, yea you can put a G4 into a Pismo, but only up to 550Mhz for $289.00. Now for me, I bought my Pismo new. . .for $3,200 and right now there is no need for more than 8Meg VRAM. This came with lots of extras, but still. . .when my friends bitch at how expensive Macs are I just tell 'em how much I paid for my PowerBook and compare that expense with the new ones. If anything, the newer Macs have gone down by over 50% in the past few years. Another example (sigh) is my old PowerMac 9500. I paid over $4,500.00 for the damn thing and now not only can you get a G5 tower for that, but also a 20 flat panel Apple monitor. . .with change to spare! Ok. . .now I'm depressed. :( Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo G3 900MHz or G4 500MHz
At 9:59 PM -0500 2/16/05, Andrew wrote: I'd skip the Wallstreet and go straight to a Lombard or Pismo, much better OSX support, not to mention slimmer and lighter. I bought my wife a Wallstreet While I haven't seen a Pismo I think the extra connectivity would be very useful. Andrew, I was asking about your experience with the G3 900 upgrade and the reports of problems. Cliff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo G3 900MHz or G4 500MHz
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:04:24 -0800, CR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been watching Pismos and saw one with a G4 500MHz upgrade. Than Andrew posted his ? regarding pricing his G3 900MHz upgrade. I wonder if I can solicit opinions relative to advantages of each? I chose the G3 900MHz as I read a review that said that although the G4 had the advantages of the Altivec, the fact that the G3 was 400MHz faster managed to push it ahead in terms of raw speed, for instance, iTunes encodes faster with the G3 900MHz than with the G4 500MHz, despite it not having Altivec. I am sure there will be *some* cases where the G4/500MHz is a faster chip, but not many. -- Thanks, Andrew McCall [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo G3 900MHz or G4 500MHz
This isn't the article I was talking about, but it says a similar thing to what I was saying: http://www.lowendmac.com/misc/04/0601.html On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:22:17 +, Andrew McCall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:04:24 -0800, CR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been watching Pismos and saw one with a G4 500MHz upgrade. Than Andrew posted his ? regarding pricing his G3 900MHz upgrade. I wonder if I can solicit opinions relative to advantages of each? I chose the G3 900MHz as I read a review that said that although the G4 had the advantages of the Altivec, the fact that the G3 was 400MHz faster managed to push it ahead in terms of raw speed, for instance, iTunes encodes faster with the G3 900MHz than with the G4 500MHz, despite it not having Altivec. I am sure there will be *some* cases where the G4/500MHz is a faster chip, but not many. -- Thanks, Andrew McCall [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- Thanks, Andrew McCall [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Pismo G3 900MHz or G4 500MHz
I've been watching Pismos and saw one with a G4 500MHz upgrade. Than Andrew posted his ? regarding pricing his G3 900MHz upgrade. I wonder if I can solicit opinions relative to advantages of each? Thank you Cliff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo G3 900MHz or G4 500MHz
I have a g4 500 with a gig of ram and I love it, keep thinking I need more but the flexibility of the pismo especially with the bookendz doc is great. Kevin On 2/14/05 9:04 PM, CR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been watching Pismos and saw one with a G4 500MHz upgrade. Than Andrew posted his ? regarding pricing his G3 900MHz upgrade. I wonder if I can solicit opinions relative to advantages of each? Thank you Cliff -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Pismo G3 900MHz or G4 500MHz
On Feb 14, 2005, at 7:59 pm, CR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been watching Pismos and saw one with a G4 500MHz upgrade. Than Andrew posted his ? regarding pricing his G3 900MHz upgrade. I wonder if I can solicit opinions relative to advantages of each? Are you thinking of buying an already-upgraded Pismo or upgrading your own? There's also a G4 550 MHz upgrade offered by XLR8/Daystar (and perhaps others). http://www.xlr8.com/. On the basis of theoretical performance, I'd go with the 900 MHz G3. The extra 400 MHz will trump even most altivec-intensive applications. So far as I know, PowerLogix is the only company doing the G3 900 MHz upgrade, and if you go through the CPU Upgrade database at XLR8YOURMAC http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/, there are more than a few very negative reviews. There are also some positive reviews, so perhaps it was just a bad batch of chips or something. If you're thinking of buying an already-upgraded Pismo, then that's probably less of an issue. Beyond that, the Pismo is getting pretty long in the tooth. You might be better off saving your money for a new PowerBook or iBook. I love my Pismo and I use it every day. However, I don't think I could justify spending much money upgrading a 4.5 year old computer. Buying an already-upgraded one might make a bit more sense but it really depends on your situation. -Jeff[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You can't brew a premium lager with a Kool-aid mentality. --Harold Green in _The_Red_Green_Show_ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---