Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today

2004-04-20 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Apr 19, 2004, at 8:11 PM, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:

You can still find a bunch of it at www.peak.org/~luomat/ [which you 
are only allowed to visit if you agree not to mock the web design.  It 
was the late 1990s.)

I wish there were more such 'mockable' web sites on the net...neat, 
easy to read, fast, simple navigation...That is not primitive design, 
it is classic design, and should be emulated.

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Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today

2004-04-20 Thread James Rohde
On 4/20/04, Bruce Johnson wrote:


On Apr 19, 2004, at 8:11 PM, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:

 You can still find a bunch of it at www.peak.org/~luomat/ [which you 
 are only allowed to visit if you agree not to mock the web design.  It 
 was the late 1990s.)


I wish there were more such 'mockable' web sites on the net...neat, 
easy to read, fast, simple navigation...That is not primitive design, 
it is classic design, and should be emulated.


/rant/

I'd take that site over some of the (can we call them 'bloatware'?) sites 
with gigantic Flash animations that take so long to load (even on 
DSL).

I'm with Bruce - more power to easy-to-load, easy-to-navigate sites!

/rant off/

My .02,

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: G4 to G4 Megahertz comparison (was Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today)

2004-04-20 Thread Clyde Kahrl
Doubling a processor speed usually does not result in doubling the 
computer speed because the rest of the computer does not keep up 
proportionately.   With a powerbook, it helps to have a faster drive 
because of the slowness of the laptop drives in general.

From what I have read, the G4s are still going strong, and they 
should ramp up over 2Gs later on.  Motorola announced some 
super-low-power versions of the G4 a couple of months ago.  I was 
wondering what was the power consumption of these new laptops--or if 
we must wait longer for the new chips.
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Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today

2004-04-19 Thread Jeff Hubatka
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 07:26:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Timothy J. Luoma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today
http://www.apple.com/powerbook/

I have ordered my first PowerBook today :-)

Product Name: PowerBook 1.5GHz (15.2 TFT)
Options:
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(I also got a HP 5150 printer, free after mail in rebate)
YAY

TjL
Yay for you too. That 1.5ghz is the fastest G4 Apple has made. I didn't 
think they would bump up the G4 speed anywhere since the G5 came out 
last year. Hard to imagine three times faster than mine...

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Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today

2004-04-19 Thread Eugene Lee
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 02:28:48PM -0700, Jeff Hubatka wrote:
: 
: Yay for you too. That 1.5ghz is the fastest G4 Apple has made. I didn't 
: think they would bump up the G4 speed anywhere since the G5 came out 
: last year. Hard to imagine three times faster than mine...

1. Apple is still trying to fit the G5 into a PowerBook and resolve
little things like heat dissipation.

2. IBM is having problems ramping up G5 production.  Sampling rates are
still low.  Otherwise, we would start seeing 3 GHz chips this summer as
Jobs had mentioned last year.


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G4 to G4 Megahertz comparison (was Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today)

2004-04-19 Thread Timothy J. Luoma
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:28:48 -0700, Jeff Hubatka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Yay for you too. That 1.5ghz is the fastest G4 Apple has made. I didn't  
think they would bump up the G4 speed anywhere since the G5 came out  
last year. Hard to imagine three times faster than mine...
In the Pentium world, a 750mhz is not 50% faster than a 500mhz.  Is that
true for G4 as well?
I think they used to use 5% increase per 100Mhz as a general rule.  I'm
not sure where that rule came from or if it's true, but it's just one of
those things I heard somewhere.
TjL

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Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today

2004-04-19 Thread Timothy J. Luoma
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:28:48 -0700, Jeff Hubatka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Yay for you too. That 1.5ghz is the fastest G4 Apple has made. I didn't  
think they would bump up the G4 speed anywhere since the G5 came out  
last year. Hard to imagine three times faster than mine...
I was holding out hope for a G5 Powerbook, but I assumed that if they just
released an updated G4 Powerbook, the G5 is some ways off in the distance.
And besides, I really want one.

TjL
fortunate enough to be married to a woman who supported the purchase :-)
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Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today

2004-04-19 Thread James Rohde
On 4/19/04, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:

I have ordered my first PowerBook today :-)

Product Name: PowerBook 1.5GHz (15.2 TFT)
Options: 
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   (I also got a HP 5150 printer, free after mail in rebate)

YAY

Are you rubbing it in? ;-)  

Seriously, congratulations, Tim, and welcome! I'm sure you will enjoy 
your new 'Book a lot. Enjoy learning how much fun computing can be, away 
from the Dark Side. :-)

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Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today

2004-04-19 Thread Kurt Appling
RE, congrats,welcome and best wishes.

On Apr 19, 2004, at 10:26 AM, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:

http://www.apple.com/powerbook/

I have ordered my first PowerBook today :-)

Product Name: PowerBook 1.5GHz (15.2 TFT)
Options:
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(I also got a HP 5150 printer, free after mail in rebate)
YAY


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Re: G4 to G4 Megahertz comparison (was Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today)

2004-04-19 Thread Phillip Burk
We'll have to wait until benchmarks are released...

On Apr 19, 2004, at 5:58 PM, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:28:48 -0700, Jeff Hubatka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Yay for you too. That 1.5ghz is the fastest G4 Apple has made. I  
didn't think they would bump up the G4 speed anywhere since the G5  
came out last year. Hard to imagine three times faster than mine...
In the Pentium world, a 750mhz is not 50% faster than a 500mhz.  Is  
that
true for G4 as well?

I think they used to use 5% increase per 100Mhz as a general rule.  I'm
not sure where that rule came from or if it's true, but it's just one  
of
those things I heard somewhere.

TjL
 
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Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today

2004-04-19 Thread Timothy J. Luoma
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 18:18:05 -0500, James Rohde [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

On 4/19/04, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:

I have ordered my first PowerBook today :-)

Are you rubbing it in? ;-)
No, rubbing it in would be telling you that I qualified for the  
educational discount price (-:

Would it help if I told you I've been using Windows for the past 4 years?

Seriously, congratulations, Tim, and welcome! I'm sure you will enjoy
your new 'Book a lot. Enjoy learning how much fun computing can be, away
from the Dark Side. :-)
It's a homecoming of sorts, as I was a NeXTSTEPer in a previous life  
during Steve's hiatus from Apple.

TjL

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Re: G4 to G4 Megahertz comparison (was Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today)

2004-04-19 Thread Timothy J. Luoma
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 19:07:26 -0500, Phillip Burk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We'll have to wait until benchmarks are released...
Well what about the difference between an 800 - 900 or 900 - 1ghz?

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Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today

2004-04-19 Thread Terry McCune
http://www.apple.com/powerbook/

I have ordered my first PowerBook today :-)

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Options:
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(I also got a HP 5150 printer, free after mail in rebate)
YAY

You may or may not go YAY to your HP 5150  printer. I have one 
hitched to an eMac running Panther and your clothing could go out of 
style in the time it takes to print. It also doesn't start 
automatically and I get fairly frequent pen failure messages.
For some reason, it occasionally prints emails that are upside down 
and backwards, so that I have to hold the paper up to the window and 
read through the back of the sheet. I've never seen that trick on any 
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Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today

2004-04-19 Thread Timothy J. Luoma
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:24:19 -0700, Terry McCune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You may or may not go YAY to your HP 5150  printer. I have one hitched  
to an eMac running Panther and your clothing could go out of style in  
the time it takes to print.
Huh... strange... It has gotten largely positive reviews where I've seen
it.
Well I can always ship it back.

TjL



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Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today

2004-04-19 Thread Tom Zahm
Wow!

I'm new to the G-Books list.  I am absolutely honored to receive an 
email from *the* Timothy J. Luoma, if even indirectly.

I have only a '98 Wallstreet, but I *do* still use a screamin' 400 MHz 
OpenStep (Intel) machine, and an '040 Cube to boot.

Thanks again for  all your contributions to the NeXT world.

Cordially,
Tom Zahm
On Monday, April 19, 2004, at 09:26 AM, Timothy J. Luoma wrote:

http://www.apple.com/powerbook/

I have ordered my first PowerBook today :-)

Product Name: PowerBook 1.5GHz (15.2 TFT)
Options:
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(I also got a HP 5150 printer, free after mail in rebate)
YAY

TjL

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Re: New Powerbooks announced / I bought my first Mac today

2004-04-19 Thread Timothy J. Luoma
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 21:02:35 -0500, Tom Zahm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Wow!

I'm new to the G-Books list.  I am absolutely honored to receive an  
email from *the* Timothy J. Luoma, if even indirectly.
HA!  I thought this was a setup.

I have only a '98 Wallstreet, but I *do* still use a screamin' 400 MHz  
OpenStep (Intel) machine, and an '040 Cube to boot.

Thanks again for all your contributions to the NeXT world.
You're welcome.  Believe it or not it was about a decade ago that I  
started working for PEAK on the next-ftp site.  I remember thinking that  
the WWW was a waste of time (well, it still is, but in a different way ;-)

(For the non-NeXTers: PEAK was one of the two main FTP sites.  Just about  
every NeXTSTEP/OpenStep program was available on one or both of PEAK or  
Peanuts, which was in Germany, IIRC.  This was long before anyone had  
their own web page to sell software.  If you are familiar with Tucows or  
Download.com it was something like that except a lot less sophisticated.   
I essentially ran the PEAK site, answered questions, etc.  This was back  
when Usenet was actually worth using and before there was much spam... ah  
the golden days.  Believe it or not I still get a few emails/month about  
NeXT stuff.  You can still find a bunch of it at www.peak.org/~luomat/  
[which you are only allowed to visit if you agree not to mock the web  
design.  It was the late 1990s.)

NeXTStep/OpenStep was absolutely awesome and I missed it terribly when I  
finally had to quit using it (I sold my NeXTStation in 2001 and my NSFIP  
machine went to the trash heap because I couldn't find anyone to buy it  
:-/  I was truly hoping for OS-X for Intel but I'm looking forward to  
getting back into the Unix world (tried FreeBSD but it had the same  
problem as Windows; it was too hard to get it to do what I wanted it to  
do.  Even getting a window manager to work was a colossal pain.)

...

I just realized that I bought a new computer in 1997 (133mhz Pentium with  
64mb ram [I think] which became the main machine instead of my 25mhz  
NeXTStation w/ 32ram) then 2000 (650mhz Pentium with 128mb ram) and now  
2004 (1ghz G4 with 512mb ram).  I wonder what I'll be looking at in  
2007/2008 :-?

Anyway, thanks for the ego boost.  I think this is the first time I've  
been referred to as *the* Timothy J. Luoma :-DDD   As if my wife  
didn't already have too much to put up with (-:

TjL

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