Re: Pismo improvement
stewart ebneter said: I read somewhere that g5's will never be used in powerbooks, because they are just too hot for such. this is why they went to so much trouble with the cooling system in the g5 desktop. So why does there exist a 1.3 Ghz portable version at IBM of the G5 processor, if it can't be used in a portable system? At least it have been made as a prototype. There will be portable non G3/G4 systems, but the question is when and perhaps how they will have changed in design to improve heat dissipation. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo improvement
I love Mac people, if Windows were are critical as we are, no one would use an MS product. As soon as the G5 is out - When does my G5 PowerBook arrive Heehee. Obviously IBM and Apple have or will or are trying to see if it can be done, Apple said don't expect it within the next year publicly. Will Apple move to another processor in portables after the G4? Well, yeah ... Will it be the G5? eh don't know, they are certainly looking into it from what is heard on the net. Do note the first rev.'s of the G4 didn't work in portables either. The G5 is a much hotter chip and one may rightfully question how and why IBM went from such a power efficient chip [PowerPC 7x0] to the heat producing PowerPC 970. The answer has mostly to do with the 970 coming from the Power architecture. David On Dec 10, 2003, at 12:21 PM, Mikael Byström wrote: stewart ebneter said: I read somewhere that g5's will never be used in powerbooks, because they are just too hot for such. this is why they went to so much trouble with the cooling system in the g5 desktop. So why does there exist a 1.3 Ghz portable version at IBM of the G5 processor, if it can't be used in a portable system? At least it have been made as a prototype. There will be portable non G3/G4 systems, but the question is when and perhaps how they will have changed in design to improve heat dissipation. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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Actually, the entire PPC line is derived from a lot of IBM's POWER series, hence the name: PowerPC. The 970 produces a lot more heat because IBM went with a fairly power-hungry widedeep pipeline. As power consumption in a silicon device increases, so does the heat produced. IBM didn't exactly have a choice other than cripple the chip at a lower speed rating if they wanted to keep power usage in line with the current G4s for the first 970 run. On Dec 10, 2003, at 2:06 PM, David Ensteness wrote: I love Mac people, if Windows were are critical as we are, no one would use an MS product. As soon as the G5 is out - When does my G5 PowerBook arrive Heehee. Obviously IBM and Apple have or will or are trying to see if it can be done, Apple said don't expect it within the next year publicly. Will Apple move to another processor in portables after the G4? Well, yeah ... Will it be the G5? eh don't know, they are certainly looking into it from what is heard on the net. Do note the first rev.'s of the G4 didn't work in portables either. The G5 is a much hotter chip and one may rightfully question how and why IBM went from such a power efficient chip [PowerPC 7x0] to the heat producing PowerPC 970. The answer has mostly to do with the 970 coming from the Power architecture. David On Dec 10, 2003, at 12:21 PM, Mikael Byström wrote: stewart ebneter said: I read somewhere that g5's will never be used in powerbooks, because they are just too hot for such. this is why they went to so much trouble with the cooling system in the g5 desktop. So why does there exist a 1.3 Ghz portable version at IBM of the G5 processor, if it can't be used in a portable system? At least it have been made as a prototype. There will be portable non G3/G4 systems, but the question is when and perhaps how they will have changed in design to improve heat dissipation. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo improvement
Then there are those of us who buy used machines off the swap list or out of pawn shops and a G4 or a G5 is about as real a prospect as Bush resigning in disgrace. Also be advised the Powerlogix will be using G3/1000 chips beginning sometime in January. They offered me the option of waiting, but I needed mine ASAP in case I get deployed. Yummy! Did they give you any idea on the price for the new one? I'll be in the market for a chip upgrade early next year, after I pop in a new hard drive. Dang, why is the Pismo getting so much loving on the G3 speed market when us Lombard users are stuck deciding between a G3/500 and G4/500. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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The pismo is a great machine, but the lombard is 1. 66mhz, and 2. missing firewire. Other than that, it's an absolutely wonderful machine as well. Tom In a message dated 12/8/03 11:18:39 AM, you wrote: Then there are those of us who buy used machines off the swap list or out of pawn shops and a G4 or a G5 is about as real a prospect as Bush resigning in disgrace. Also be advised the Powerlogix will be using G3/1000 chips beginning sometime in January. They offered me the option of waiting, but I needed mine ASAP in case I get deployed. Yummy! Did they give you any idea on the price for the new one? I'll be in the market for a chip upgrade early next year, after I pop in a new hard drive. Dang, why is the Pismo getting so much loving on the G3 speed market when us Lombard users are stuck deciding between a G3/500 and G4/500. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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Actually, I was just expressing my annoyance that the Pismo is going up to 900Mhz/1Ghz on their G3 chips (so you get to decide between G3/900 and G4/500 as upgrade options)... while the Lombard users get to choose between G3/500 and G4/500 as upgrade options. The G3/900 chips aren't different enough to prevent their use in the Lombard, which makes me curious. On Dec 8, 2003, at 11:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The pismo is a great machine, but the lombard is 1. 66mhz, and 2. missing firewire. Other than that, it's an absolutely wonderful machine as well. Tom In a message dated 12/8/03 11:18:39 AM, you wrote: Then there are those of us who buy used machines off the swap list or out of pawn shops and a G4 or a G5 is about as real a prospect as Bush resigning in disgrace. Also be advised the Powerlogix will be using G3/1000 chips beginning sometime in January. They offered me the option of waiting, but I needed mine ASAP in case I get deployed. Yummy! Did they give you any idea on the price for the new one? I'll be in the market for a chip upgrade early next year, after I pop in a new hard drive. Dang, why is the Pismo getting so much loving on the G3 speed market when us Lombard users are stuck deciding between a G3/500 and G4/500. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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Pismo's were brought on the market to satisfy the video edititng enthusiast. And as we know, any application extensive programs like FCP, iMovie 2+3 need a lot of head room as to processing power, and ram. Well, sad to say lombard's were never intended to market as video processing machines. . . and therefore never really needed as much power as the pismo, 500MHZ is really wonderful for a lombard, At least that was my observation. -MW . On Monday, December 8, 2003, at 12:14 PM, peter webster wrote: Then there are those of us who buy used machines off the swap list or out of pawn shops and a G4 or a G5 is about as real a prospect as Bush resigning in disgrace. Also be advised the Powerlogix will be using G3/1000 chips beginning sometime in January. They offered me the option of waiting, but I needed mine ASAP in case I get deployed. Yummy! Did they give you any idea on the price for the new one? I'll be in the market for a chip upgrade early next year, after I pop in a new hard drive. Dang, why is the Pismo getting so much loving on the G3 speed market when us Lombard users are stuck deciding between a G3/500 and G4/500. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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The chair recognizes Jason Long at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make it good... Also be advised the Powerlogix will be using G3/1000 chips beginning sometime in January. They offered me the option of waiting, but I needed mine ASAP in case I get deployed. Yummy! Did they give you any idea on the price for the new one? I'll be in the market for a chip upgrade early next year, after I pop in a new hard drive. -- Joe Crow Hierarchy was invented to regulate human relations with imaginary beings, and it still performs that function quite admirably. In the shadow of that pyramid, conspiracy theories are little grassy knolls. -Ken MacLeod -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 11:00:05PM -0600, Jason Long wrote: : : Eugene, : Lighten up, man! I rather expect that Apple will follow the same pattern : it did with the G4 with the first notebook variants of the new processor : following about a year or so behind the desktops. I hope that Apple can squeeze a G5 into a PowerBook. If they can do so, it would be in another 6-12 months. This is based on a turnaround time simliar to the G3 and the G4 migration from the desktop to the laptop. When I see an Apple product announcement, I'll get just as excited. :-) But until then, it's just a rumor, and there's really no point in talking about rumors. -- Eugene Lee eugene at anime dot net -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, stewart ebneter wrote: I read somewhere that g5's will never be used in powerbooks, because they ^ are just too hot for such. this is why they went to so much trouble with the cooling system in the g5 desktop. Careful... -- Non Illegitimi Carborundum -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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I think that it will around the same price, but don't hold me to that. Jason Also be advised the Powerlogix will be using G3/1000 chips beginning sometime in January. They offered me the option of waiting, but I needed mine ASAP in case I get deployed. Yummy! Did they give you any idea on the price for the new one? I'll be in the market for a chip upgrade early next year, after I pop in a new hard drive. _ Dont worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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I just upgraded my Pismo yesterday from 400 MHz. I really didn't bother to benchmark anything except my massive genealogy database in Reunion as other people have already provided them. Find time dropped from 3:43 to 1:40 Merge time dropped from 7:38 to 5:21 No problems with installation and I've noticed no issues with battery life or heat as of yet (of course, my apt. is rather underheated and so may not be a valid testing enviroment!) I'm very happy with it although I did have some issues with Powerlogix. I'd strongly recommend getting a duplicate CPU to use while they do their magic (Got mine off Ebay). It took about two weeks from when I sent the CPU off before I got it back, although that was over the Thanksgiving holiday weekend. Now I can wait until the Powerbook G5s come out next Fall! Jason PS Contact me privately if anyone's interested in my extra CPU. _ Cell phone switch rules are taking effect find out more here. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/consumeradvocate.armx -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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on 12/6/03 12:34 PM, Jason Long at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. .. Now I can wait until the Powerbook G5s come out next Fall! Jason Powerbook G5 are coming out next fall??? Where did you hear that? n -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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It's all over the usual Mac rumors sites like http://www.macosrumors.com/ and http://www.appleinsider.com/. Although it seems likely that the desktops will be running G6s aka PowerPC 980 chips by that time. Also be advised the Powerlogix will be using G3/1000 chips beginning sometime in January. They offered me the option of waiting, but I needed mine ASAP in case I get deployed. Jason _ Dont worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 01:23:38PM -0500, Nick wrote: : : on 12/6/03 12:34 PM, Jason Long at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : : Now I can wait until the Powerbook G5s come out next Fall! : : Powerbook G5 are coming out next fall??? Where did you hear that? It's a rumor. Nothing more. Jason, please do not perpetuate unsubstantiated rumors as casual statements of fact. All I ask is that you prepend any rumor with the appropriate adjectival disclaimer, e.g.: : Now I can wait until the Powerbook G5s come out next Fall! can be better expressed as: : Now I can wait until the *rumored* Powerbook G5s come out next Fall! -- Eugene Lee eugene at anime dot net -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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I read somewhere that g5's will never be used in powerbooks, because they are just too hot for such. this is why they went to so much trouble with the cooling system in the g5 desktop. stewart ebneter -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
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Eugene, Lighten up, man! I rather expect that Apple will follow the same pattern it did with the G4 with the first notebook variants of the new processor following about a year or so behind the desktops. Sure the timing's variable, but I have every confidence that they will stuff a G5, almost certainly the new version on the 90nm die, into a Powerbook. The newer G5 (970FX?) is reputed to have about 2/3 of the power requirement of the current 130nm G5, which will make installation into a Powerbook a much simpler process. Jason _ Take advantage of our best MSN Dial-up offer of the year six months @$9.95/month. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo improvement
On 05/12/03 12:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a PB g3 400 Pismo and I want to upgrade this mac because is a machine that has performed really good in since i bought it, tis an excellent machine and good looking too. I want to know if someone can help me about the processor upgrades that are available, are they worth the money and how good is the improvement under OS X You didn't mention the current specs of your Pismo, so I'll start with the obvious. Get memory. At least 512MB. More if you can. Memory is relatively cheap and will give a good boost to OS X. Get a faster hard drive. You can get a 40GB Travelstar at 5400rpm that will also give a little boost. There are larger drives, but they're are exponentially more expensive. Get Panther (OS X 10.3). You will get a much snappier OS. Finally, you could get the Sonnet 900MHz G3 upgrade. Unless you're planning to use Altivec-based applications (like iDVD), the G3 upgrade will give you more bangs for the bucks. That's pretty much what I can think of right now... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo improvement
The processor upgrades look good from what I've read. From what I've read the Powerlogix blue chip G3 900 is just as fast, if not faster, than the Newertech G4 500. Additionally, you don't have to send you 'book away, just the daughtercard. Gary On Friday, December 5, 2003, at 11:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a PB g3 400 Pismo and I want to upgrade this mac because is a machine that has performed really good in since i bought it, tis an excellent machine and good looking too. I want to know if someone can help me about the processor upgrades that are available, are they worth the money and how good is the improvement under OS X Tahnks Hi, I have a PB g3 400 Pismo and I want to upgrade this mac because is a machine that has performed really good in since i bought it, tis an excellent machine and good looking too. I want to know if someone can help me about the processor upgrades that are available, are they worth the money and how good is the improvement under OS X Thhnks -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo improvement
On Friday, December 5, 2003, at 11:19 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 05/12/03 12:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a PB g3 400 Pismo and I want to upgrade this mac because is a machine that has performed really good in since i bought it, tis an excellent machine and good looking too. I want to know if someone can help me about the processor upgrades that are available, are they worth the money and how good is the improvement under OS X You didn't mention the current specs of your Pismo, so I'll start with the obvious. Get a faster hard drive. You can get a 40GB Travelstar at 5400rpm that will also give a little boost. There are larger drives, but they're are exponentially more expensive. -Laurent. I just installed the 7200 rpm 60gb Travelstar in mine, and it's quiet and fast. No apparent battery effects. Gary -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Pismo improvement
On 12/5/03 7:03 PM, 'edu' enlightened us by writing: Hi, I have a PB g3 400 Pismo and I want to upgrade this mac because is a machine that has performed really good in since i bought it, tis an excellent machine and good looking too. I want to know if someone can help me about the processor upgrades that are available, are they worth the money and how good is the improvement under OS X Tahnks I would say with Laurent that the PowerLogix G3/900 upgrade for the processor is worth looking at (I hope to upgrade with that for my Pismo). See what Charles Moore has to say on a couple of sites about it: http://www.macopinion.com/columns/roadwarrior/03/05/06/ http://www.applelinks.com/articles/2003/05/20030506111612.shtml and here's a comparison of different CPU upgrades: http://www.macspeedzone.com/html/hubs/central/upgrades/processor/index.shtm l HTH, Jim Rohde I love Saturday morning cartoons. What classic humor! This is what entertainment is all about... Idiots, explosives and falling anvils. -Calvin -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
