Re: Transfer to new Powerbook and more

[Howard Katz]

FYI, I picked up today a copy of the UK edition of MacWorld at my
local bookstore.  There's an article in there about how they've
discovered that not all firewire drives can be used as boot
devices--seems they've discovered a few,  the Kanguru 80gig
Quicksilver and an 80 gig DiskGo! for example, all failed the
bootup-by-firewire test.  And this was confirmed by the drive
manufacturers, too.  Seems that not all the bridge chips that the
enclosures use are capable of doing bootup--the DiskGoQ! tech said
that their newer drives over 400gig could, since they used a newer
bridge chip.  So it pays to ask about boot ability when buying your
drive.  (this was in the UK MacWorld Expo Issue pg 195, btw)


Later...Howard

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Re: Transfer to new Powerbook and more

[Andre Ruegg]

on 12/19/05 2:48 PM, Bruce Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> If your iBook has firewire, then just follow the directions when you
> start up your new powerbook.

The iBook has firewire but I couldn't get migration assistant to work. It
sometimes recognized the iBook on firewire mode but usually didn't. And when
it did recognize the iBook the transfer would hang at some point. Once it
told me there were 1746048 hours left in the transfer. I am just not that
patient. :-)

I tried to just mount the iBook in firewire mode but the PowerBook would not
mount it. I then tried mounting the PowerBook as a firewire drive on the
iBook. That worked just like it was supposed to. With this connection I then
copied most of my data and preferences over and spent the last few days
fine-tuning, reinstalling and updating as needed. I think I now have
everything transferred that I wanted to move over and all my programs and
utilities seem to be working. Yeah!

BTW, I absolutely love the PowerBook.

Now to try installing Tiger on the old iBook.

Thanks for all the help.

Andre



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Re: Transfer to new Powerbook and more

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 19/12/05 17:09, "Andre Ruegg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on 12/19/05 2:32 PM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>> Not sure you will be able to install the OS from the system DVD that came
>> with the PowerBook. Apple has put a little protection that usually prevents
>> you from installing on any other model of Mac except the one you purchased.
>> It's not too hard to defeat but you need to be aware of it...
> 
> How would one go about defeating the OS install protection?

There is some shell script inside the system package that checks for a
specific model. I don't remember all the details but I could look on mine if
you send me an email to my personal address, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The reason they do this is to enforce the license that comes with the new
Macintosh, where you are allowed to reinstall the system but only on that
machine. I think we had a debate about this not long ago so I'd rather not
go there. By using this DVD to install the system on another Macintosh,
you're violating the license that was granted to you.

-Laurent.
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Re: Transfer to new Powerbook and more

[Andre Ruegg]

on 12/19/05 2:32 PM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

> Not sure you will be able to install the OS from the system DVD that came
> with the PowerBook. Apple has put a little protection that usually prevents
> you from installing on any other model of Mac except the one you purchased.
> It's not too hard to defeat but you need to be aware of it...

How would one go about defeating the OS install protection?

Thanks,

Andre



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Re: Transfer to new Powerbook and more

[Andre Ruegg]

on 12/19/05 2:48 PM, Bruce Johnson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> On Dec 19, 2005, at 12:58 PM, Andre Ruegg wrote:
> 
> If your iBook has firewire, then just follow the directions when you
> start up your new powerbook.

Thanks for all the replies. It sounds like Migration assistant will be able
to handle the transfer from the iBook to the new Powerbook. I wasn't aware
of this feature till now. I will give this a try tonight.

Thanks again,

Andre 



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Re: Transfer to new Powerbook and more

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 19, 2005, at 12:58 PM, Andre Ruegg wrote:


Hello list,

I have just received a new 15² PowerBook and am wondering how to best
transfer the contents of my iBook G3 to the new laptop. The iBook is
currently running OS 10.3.9.


If your iBook has firewire, then just follow the directions when you  
start up your new powerbook.


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Re: Transfer to new Powerbook and more

[Anne Judge]

On Dec 19, 2005, at 2:58 PM, Andre Ruegg wrote:


I have just received a new 15² PowerBook and am wondering how to best
transfer the contents of my iBook G3 to the new laptop. The iBook is
currently running OS 10.3.9.

I will then need to transfer my wife¹s system from a firewire drive  
to the
iBook. Her system is at OS 10.2.8. If at all possible I would also  
like to
update the iBook to Tiger with the install disks from the new  
PowerBook.


Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Migration assistant worked well for me. Start up the old computer in  
firewire target disk mode & attach it to the new one and run  
migration assistant on the new one.


In fact, when you first start up the powerbook it should ask if you  
want to import old accounts.


Do NOT make an account on the new computer in the name you want  
before doing this.  If you make an account, call it "temp" or  
something.  I made this mistake when I was setting up a new disk for  
my father's computer; I installed a clean system at home, and a user  
account in his name, then when I put the disk in his computer and his  
old disk in a firewire case and tried to migrate from the old disk to  
the new one, it complained about the duplicate names and I had to  
make a new {username}_old account.  (I should have realized that in  
advance but I didn't really think it through.)


When you're done moving everything to your new powerbook, I would  
wipe the ibook disk and do a fresh system install, then attach your  
wife's firewire drive to the ibook and run migration assistant to  
suck her account over. BUT if you don't have Tiger (and the PB  
install disks probably won't work), I don't think that migration  
assistant in the older system (I assume you have 10.3 disks??) is as  
sophisticated.  Not that I've tried to use it.  Just that Tiger is  
the first time I started to hear people advising its use for routine  
upgrades, because it had gotten so good.


Anne


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Re: Transfer to new Powerbook and more

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 19/12/05 14:58, "Andre Ruegg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello list,
> 
> I have just received a new 15² PowerBook and am wondering how to best
> transfer the contents of my iBook G3 to the new laptop. The iBook is
> currently running OS 10.3.9.
> 
> I will then need to transfer my wife¹s system from a firewire drive to the
> iBook. Her system is at OS 10.2.8. If at all possible I would also like to
> update the iBook to Tiger with the install disks from the new PowerBook.
> 
> Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> We are rebuilding after losing just about everything after hurricane
> Katrina. 
> 

What exact contents are you talking about here? If only data, then make sure
you create your account on the new PowerBook exactly as it is on your iBook.
You can then transfer your preferences from the Preferences folder in the
library folder in your home folder on the iBook.

If you have too many applications on the iBook that you would rather not
reinstall on the PowerBook, you could clone your iBook disk onto the
PowerBook disk but you would need to make sure that your PowerBook can boot
from 10.3.x. Also, you might lose some provided applications on the
PowerBook. You should be able to restore them from one of the DVD you got
with it, though.

Not sure you will be able to install the OS from the system DVD that came
with the PowerBook. Apple has put a little protection that usually prevents
you from installing on any other model of Mac except the one you purchased.
It's not too hard to defeat but you need to be aware of it...

-Laurent.
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Re: Transfer to new Powerbook and more

[darm0k]

At 1:58 PM -0600 12/19/2005, Andre Ruegg wrote:


I have just received a new 15" PowerBook and am wondering how to best
transfer the contents of my iBook G3 to the new laptop. The iBook is
currently running OS 10.3.9.


Does that iBook have firewire?  If it does, you can use Firewire 
Target Disk Mode.   If not, just use file sharing.


- Dan.

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