Re: Slow iBook G4 1Ghz (wife...)

[Larry le Mac]

From: Beniamino Cenci Goga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In general use it is hard to find any difference: for instance my wife 
cannot tell any difference and ...
Hmm, not much of an argument...
I have a really bad habit of swapping my Macs, as some of you know,
and my wife is getting real pissed off with not knowing which Mac or
back-up disk has which document and so on, hence I am moving to
Macs that I will not sell, brand new ones.
To the point, I asked her what she would lika as "her" Mac and she
claims that she really doesn't care as long as it works and that it stays.
Oh, and as she's got taste (She's married to me...) she prefers OS X
over OS 9 or Windoze.
Right, in the past she's had a 12" iBook 800 who's screen (I do refer
to Macs as persons) was "too small", fine. However, when I had the
AlBook 12" a month later, she picked it up and said "is this my new
Mac then ?!"
Doh!!
It's now be a Mac mini with 17" TFT, period!!
Larry
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Re: Slow iBook G4 1Ghz

[Beniamino Cenci Goga]

I have a huge PowerBooks collection: at least all form factor (1xx, 
190, 520/540, 5300, 1400, 3400/3500, WS/lomb/Pizmo, Titan, Alum, 
iBooks (clamsh., withe).

Well, I would like to bring my experience to this topic.
Wallstreet 15", BlueChip 500 MHz, 512 MB RAM
vs.
iBook G4 14", 933 MHz 384 MB RAM
vs.
PowerBook G4 15", 1,25 MHz, 1000 MB RAM
Well, to tell the truth the Aluminium is faster, but I notice this 
only with processor and RAM demanding tasks.

In general use it is hard to find any difference: for instance my 
wife cannot tell any difference and actually she is still complaining 
for the purchase of the Aluminum (the only reason that she admits is 
the nice shape and the necessity for my collection...).

Moreover she still find the Wallstreet with OS 9.2.2 the best thing.
Personally I use the iBook G4 90% of the time because it is sturdy 
and the battery last longer than on the Aluminium. Only when I need 
to work on huge (>5 MB) Word files or PDFs I switch to the Aluminium.

Then I have a G5 2 x 2 with 2.5 GB RAM: well this monster is really 
faster than the three 'Book mentioned.

Let's go back to 1995-1996: PowerBook 1400/3400 were a big 
improvement over the 5300ce, but by today's standard they are pretty 
the same thing.

I guess that after you have driven a Porsche (never had one...) 
probably you do not notice any difference between a 1999 1.5 L Jetta 
or a 2005 Passat V8.

Ben

I too would really like to know about this.  I recently acquired a 
G4 800mhz iBook and immediately upgraded it to a gig of RAM and I 
swear that it is slower at most tasks than my  400mhz Pismo, also 
with a gig of RAM.  I really expected a big difference in speed and 
I just haven't seen it.  Any ideas??

Nancy
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Re: Slow iBook G4 1Ghz

[Nancy Lawrence]

I too would really like to know about this.  I recently acquired a G4 
800mhz iBook and immediately upgraded it to a gig of RAM and I swear 
that it is slower at most tasks than my  400mhz Pismo, also with a gig 
of RAM.  I really expected a big difference in speed and I just haven't 
seen it.  Any ideas??

Nancy
On Feb 15, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Mikael Byström wrote:
About one year ago I had a Wallstreet II / PDQ 266 with 128MB RAM 
running
Panther (I believe 10.3.5. and Jaguar 10.2.6 before that). I know this
was too little, but unless I used very memory intensive apps it was OK.
Now have encountered an iBook G4 1Ghz with 128MB running Panther 10.3.6
that is slower than my old WS machine!

I looked at the processor with Top and it was running at about 50%. 
Some
VM activity was going on, but it didn't seem excessive nor did the 
drive
trash. Also I only found 3 swap files, which I'd expect with this 
little RAM.

In my old WS changing to another app could take about 5 seconds at 
times,
longer if I ran more than say 5 apps. To start an app took maybe 10 
dock
bounces. On this book starting an app takes very long time, like 15
bounces. Changing app takes way more than 15 seconds, between say, Word
and System Preferences, those two being the only ones loaded.

While any machine with 128MB is running sub-optimally, I was impressed 
on
the WS 266 when Panther support in XPostFacto arrived and how much
snappier my machine felt even with as little as 128MB ( I later 
upgraded
to 384MB).

It seems that I'm not looking at processor overload, but something more
complex. Anyone have any suggestions what to look for including 
hardware
problems in this model?

I'm going to try to redo prebinding and getting rid of all suspect 
prefs,
before I install more RAM. Any other suggestions?


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Slow iBook G4 1Ghz

[Mikael Byström]

About one year ago I had a Wallstreet II / PDQ 266 with 128MB RAM running
Panther (I believe 10.3.5. and Jaguar 10.2.6 before that). I know this
was too little, but unless I used very memory intensive apps it was OK.
Now have encountered an iBook G4 1Ghz with 128MB running Panther 10.3.6
that is slower than my old WS machine! 

I looked at the processor with Top and it was running at about 50%. Some
VM activity was going on, but it didn't seem excessive nor did the drive
trash. Also I only found 3 swap files, which I'd expect with this little RAM. 

In my old WS changing to another app could take about 5 seconds at times,
longer if I ran more than say 5 apps. To start an app took maybe 10 dock
bounces. On this book starting an app takes very long time, like 15
bounces. Changing app takes way more than 15 seconds, between say, Word
and System Preferences, those two being the only ones loaded.

While any machine with 128MB is running sub-optimally, I was impressed on
the WS 266 when Panther support in XPostFacto arrived and how much
snappier my machine felt even with as little as 128MB ( I later upgraded
to 384MB). 

It seems that I'm not looking at processor overload, but something more
complex. Anyone have any suggestions what to look for including hardware
problems in this model? 

I'm going to try to redo prebinding and getting rid of all suspect prefs,
before I install more RAM. Any other suggestions?




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