Re: Sourceforge WiFi Driver

2004-06-22 Thread Bob 
The National Enquirer reports at 10:36 PM -0700 6/21/04, Clark Martin wrote:

>At 7:02 PM -0600 6/21/04, Bob wrote:
>
> >There's no question whether the sourceforge driver works or not, it's
> >just a matter of limitations and how many there are. I was busy
> >slaying dragons last night and ran across the answers to my
> >questions. The thing that makes this driver difficult is that it's
> >open source and is constantly being improved. So, what might have
> >been true (and logged as such) 3 or 4 weeks ago, may not necessarily
> >be true today.
>
>
>3 or 4 weeks  I've been using the latest version of the driver,
>1.0.0b5, for over a year now.  The info page was last updated over
>two years ago.

Yeah, I know. The documentation with the driver is for OS 10.1. :-)

But I was actually referring to *my* logging of information, which 
also comes from input from other users (like this list, for 
instance). So -- hypothetically speaking -- what you or I may say 
about an open source item may not still be true several weeks or 
months from now, depending on how much activity there is in its 
improvement.

Even though FreePPP wasn't open source (but freeware), I remember how 
quickly changes occurred in it during one particular stretch of time.

>If you know of a newer version I'd be happy to hear about it!

I'm not in X right, but I think I'm using b5 or b5.1.

> >Nonetheless, this is the information they are expounding currently:
> >
> >* The driver supports AppleTalk over IP but will not yet allow
> >printing to AppleTalk printers. We are working to fix this. To
> >connect to other Macs type: afp://ip-address in the connect to server
> >dialog (e.g. afp://10.0.1.3).
>
>
>afp://ip-address is not AppleTalk over IP, it's AppleSHARE over IP.
>Big difference.  AppleShare can be used over AppleTalk or over IP but
>it's not AppleTalk over IP.  You can do AppleTalk over IP but it's
>something else altogether.

Their explanation, not mine. But thanks for the clarification. It's 
beginning to look more and more like the IOXperts driver is a much 
better choice.

Thanks Clark,

Bob


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Re: Sourceforge WiFi Driver

2004-06-22 Thread Clark Martin 
At 7:02 PM -0600 6/21/04, Bob wrote:
There's no question whether the sourceforge driver works or not, it's
just a matter of limitations and how many there are. I was busy
slaying dragons last night and ran across the answers to my
questions. The thing that makes this driver difficult is that it's
open source and is constantly being improved. So, what might have
been true (and logged as such) 3 or 4 weeks ago, may not necessarily
be true today.

3 or 4 weeks  I've been using the latest version of the driver, 
1.0.0b5, for over a year now.  The info page was last updated over 
two years ago.

If you know of a newer version I'd be happy to hear about it!
Nonetheless, this is the information they are expounding currently:
* The driver supports AppleTalk over IP but will not yet allow
printing to AppleTalk printers. We are working to fix this. To
connect to other Macs type: afp://ip-address in the connect to server
dialog (e.g. afp://10.0.1.3).

afp://ip-address is not AppleTalk over IP, it's AppleSHARE over IP. 
Big difference.  AppleShare can be used over AppleTalk or over IP but 
it's not AppleTalk over IP.  You can do AppleTalk over IP but it's 
something else altogether.


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Re: Sourceforge WiFi Driver

2004-06-21 Thread Bob 
The National Enquirer reports at 7:22 AM -0700 6/21/04, Jeff Hubatka wrote:

> > Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 04:45:04 -0600
> > From: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Sourceforge WiFi Driver
> >
> > I ran across the following information on another list. I know there
> > are a number of users on this list that currently use, or have had in
> > the past used, the Sourceforge wireless driver. I like to get some
> > verification that this information is true or not (the specific card
> > was not indicated):
> >
> > Under OS X, the Orinoco card works (mostly) if you use the free
> > wirelessdriver from Sourceforge. (My paraphrasing follows: WEP
> > encryption and AppleTalk do not work with this driver.)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bob
>
>I have used it on a Lombard, Pismo, and TiBook with a Lucent WaveLAN
>Gold card (same card, earlier vendor). I haven't tried AppleTalk
>because my DLink wireless router doesn't support it.

There's no question whether the sourceforge driver works or not, it's 
just a matter of limitations and how many there are. I was busy 
slaying dragons last night and ran across the answers to my 
questions. The thing that makes this driver difficult is that it's 
open source and is constantly being improved. So, what might have 
been true (and logged as such) 3 or 4 weeks ago, may not necessarily 
be true today.

Nonetheless, this is the information they are expounding currently:

* The driver supports AppleTalk over IP but will not yet allow 
printing to AppleTalk printers. We are working to fix this. To 
connect to other Macs type: afp://ip-address in the connect to server 
dialog (e.g. afp://10.0.1.3).

* If you have installed the latest version of the driver, both WEP 
and selection of closed networks are now supported for certain 
cards!! (They indicate which cards are supported)

* The thing that *really* frosts my cake is that the Apple Internet 
Connect app does not recognize the sourceforge driver, thus the 
Airport menu-bar icon and menu are not available when using that 
driver. If I find out that Internet Connect recognizes the IOXperts 
driver, that might just be enough to push me into paying for it.

The final thing that I found very disappointing was apparently no OS 
X "stumbler" seems to support wireless PCMCIA  cards. That has 
nothing to do with the sourceforce driver, but it's really 
aggravating. I hope somebody proves me wrong on that one.

Anyway, that's the latest scoop as I have run across it.

Later,

Bob


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Re: Sourceforge WiFi Driver

2004-06-21 Thread Jeff Hubatka 
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 04:45:04 -0600
From: Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sourceforge WiFi Driver
I ran across the following information on another list. I know there
are a number of users on this list that currently use, or have had in
the past used, the Sourceforge wireless driver. I like to get some
verification that this information is true or not (the specific card
was not indicated):
Under OS X, the Orinoco card works (mostly) if you use the free
wirelessdriver from Sourceforge. (My paraphrasing follows: WEP
encryption and AppleTalk do not work with this driver.)
Thanks,
Bob
I have used it on a Lombard, Pismo, and TiBook with a Lucent WaveLAN 
Gold card (same card, earlier vendor). I haven't tried AppleTalk 
because my DLink wireless router doesn't support it.

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Sourceforge WiFi Driver

2004-06-20 Thread Bob 
I ran across the following information on another list. I know there 
are a number of users on this list that currently use, or have had in 
the past used, the Sourceforge wireless driver. I like to get some 
verification that this information is true or not (the specific card 
was not indicated):

Under OS X, the Orinoco card works (mostly) if you use the free 
wirelessdriver from Sourceforge. (My paraphrasing follows: WEP 
encryption and AppleTalk do not work with this driver.)

Thanks,

Bob


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