Re: USB 2.0 to IDE 2.5 HDD enclosure trouble
Original post: Subject: USB 2.0 to IDE 2.5 HDD enclosure trouble Plea for ideas on what I am missing in getting an external USB drive enclosure to work. I upgraded the hard drive in my G3 Firewire (Pismo) 400 MHz 320MB RAM so I removed the Fujitsu MRH2010AT 10 GB no jumpers Device 0. So I thought the smart thing to do would be to get a USB drive enclose (USAP usb 2.0 mac/pc) and use it for backup or storage. My problem is that once I connect the enclosure to my desktop G4 Quicksilver it mounts OK but as soon as I attempt to copy anything to the drive it hangs (freezes finder). I've tried using both power cable usb (ext switch) and straight usb cable (int. switch) and I've tried checking the drive with drive utility (both in OS 10.2.8 and 10.3.2). I reinstalled the drive in my Pismo and checked it and reformatted it just to be sure. As soon as it is back in the enclosure it mounts on the desktop OK but freezes as soon as anything attempts to access it? What am I missing? Thanks for any thoughts. Note I already swapped the first enclosure back since the first one wouldn't even mount on the desktop (supposedly defective, now I wonder). -- Under the category of Physician heal thyself: Quote Anyhow, concerning your USB-2 freezing problems, I have the same problem and have done a little bit of reading. I haven't been able to get any great answers anywhere but the best thing I've been able to find is that Apple's USB-2 drivers are NOT universal. Apparently they only work well with NEC-based USB2 controller cards. I personally have a VIA-based USB2 card, and I have the same freezes as you. My USB2 devices are recognized and will mount, but any attempt to use the devices will start and eventually freeze. In my situation, it's not worth it for me to buy a different USB controller, so I'll just have to wait for Apple to fixed their half-baked USB2 drivers. Unquote John offered: Its worth booting in OS 9 and seeing if it mounts and performs. This came to me from another forum and I offer it here since it may benefit others. In my situation even though I have an OS9 partition on my Pismo, I hardly ever boot from it and have only one hold over classic application that I use any more. JPL offered: Does the USB drive work in 9.2.2? OS 9.2.2 has been criticized for introducing a USB 1.1 bug, but there are apparently work-arounds for this. If interested in trying the USB drive in 9.2.2 (and only if your current software is a problem), Other World Computing has bundled the versions of the 5 Apple USB drivers they say work well with 9.2.2. If you wanted to download/test these drivers, here is the link: http://eshop.macsales.com/tech/ftp/usb/usbextensions.sit These are the extensions: USB Support v1.5.6 USB Software Locator v2.0.4 USB Device Extension v2.0.4 USB Mass Storage Support v1.5.6 USB Mass Storage Extension v1.4.1 You would just drag the 5 corresponding extensions from your 9.2.2 Extensions folder to the desktop, drop the OWC set into your Extensions folder, restart to make the extensions active, then test the drive. -- Cheers, Brent -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: USB 2.0 to IDE 2.5 HDD enclosure trouble
I have five USB 1.0 drive enclosures (all left over's from upgrades) that I use all the time with my Pismo's, my G/4 977, my G/4 9600 and my 8600 and they all work flawlessly, but I had to install an extension that came with the drives for them to work reliably. These are really inexpensive enclosures ($16 ea) and they have worked well out of the box, so you may want to send yours back for a replacement. Tom on 2/11/04 7:41, Brent Baeslack at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original post: Subject: USB 2.0 to IDE 2.5 HDD enclosure trouble -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: USB 2.0 to IDE 2.5 HDD enclosure trouble
Brent, is it possible that the drive is just not getting enough power through the USB bus? Perhaps you've got some other things on the same bus that are sharing power? If there is a way to externally supply power to the enclosure, that may help matters. --Jim. Brent Baeslack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I upgraded the hard drive in my G3 Firewire (Pismo) 400 MHz 320MB RAM so I removed the Fujitsu MRH2010AT 10 GB no jumpers Device 0. So I thought the smart thing to do would be to get a USB drive enclose (USAP usb 2.0 mac/pc) and use it for backup or storage. My problem is that once I connect the enclosure to my desktop G4 Quicksilver it mounts OK but as soon as I attempt to copy anything to the drive it hangs (freezes finder). -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: USB 2.0 to IDE 2.5 HDD enclosure trouble
At 10:41 am -0600 11/2/04, Jim wrote: Brent, is it possible that the drive is just not getting enough power through the USB bus? Perhaps you've got some other things on the same bus that are sharing power? If there is a way to externally supply power to the enclosure, that may help matters. I had this problem with a 2.5 drive installed in a USB2 enclosure. It came with a second USB cable to supply power and the only way it would mount on my TiBook 800 was if I used both the native USB ports (not on a USB hub). I know the ports are USB1 but I don't think that was the problem. -- With best wishes, Roger Shufflebottom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
USB 2.0 to IDE 2.5 HDD enclosure trouble
Its worth booting in OS 9 and seeing if it mounts and performs. 2/9/04 10:59 AM -0500 G-Books [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried using both power cable usb (ext switch) and straight usb cable (int. switch) and I've tried checking the drive with drive utility (both in OS 10.2.8 and 10.3.2). regards, John regards, John -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
USB 2.0 to IDE 2.5 HDD enclosure trouble
Plea for ideas on what I am missing in getting an external USB drive enclosure to work. I upgraded the hard drive in my G3 Firewire (Pismo) 400 MHz 320MB RAM so I removed the Fujitsu MRH2010AT 10 GB no jumpers Device 0. So I thought the smart thing to do would be to get a USB drive enclose (USAP usb 2.0 mac/pc) and use it for backup or storage. My problem is that once I connect the enclosure to my desktop G4 Quicksilver it mounts OK but as soon as I attempt to copy anything to the drive it hangs (freezes finder). I've tried using both power cable usb (ext switch) and straight usb cable (int. switch) and I've tried checking the drive with drive utility (both in OS 10.2.8 and 10.3.2). I reinstalled the drive in my Pismo and checked it and reformatted it just to be sure. As soon as it is back in the enclosure it mounts on the desktop OK but freezes as soon as anything attempts to access it? What am I missing? Thanks for any thoughts. Note I already swapped the first enclosure back since the first one wouldn't even mount on the desktop (supposedly defective, now I wonder). -- Cheers, Brent -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
