Re: Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-13 Thread Taylor McLaren
MEEP! Andrew Johnson wrote:
 Since this is an old world machine, the os 9 loader begins and loads 
 the software that boots os x.
Just out of curiosity, when did this old world to new world (great 
terms, by the way) transition happen? I'm still getting used to my 
first Mac (an iBook 800), and originally made the jump from PCs after 
getting sick of the increasing reliance of every user on service techs, 
product-activation phone lines, etc., and I'm still getting used to the 
idea that you can't necessarily build a Mac from scratch without a hell 
of a lot of experience with its hardware and software.

-me

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Re: Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-13 Thread Andrew Johnson

On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 08:12  AM, Taylor McLaren wrote:

 Just out of curiosity, when did this old world to new world (great
 terms, by the way) transition happen? I'm still getting used to my
 first Mac (an iBook 800), and originally made the jump from PCs after
 getting sick of the increasing reliance of every user on service techs,
 product-activation phone lines, etc., and I'm still getting used to the
 idea that you can't necessarily build a Mac from scratch without a hell
 of a lot of experience with its hardware and software.

Apparently the Lombard was the first New World architecture (4MB ROM in 
RAM) according to LEM.

-Andrew


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Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-12 Thread Geno Endicott
I am running OS 10.2.4 on my wallstreet. When I start up I see the little happy 
mac. Then my computer restarts with the grey screen with dark gray apple. Why 
is this? I thought it was to start just with the apple? Any ideas?

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Re: Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-12 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 12/03/03 11:45, Geno Endicott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am running OS 10.2.4 on my wallstreet. When I start up I see the little
 happy 
 mac. Then my computer restarts with the grey screen with dark gray apple. Why
 is this? I thought it was to start just with the apple? Any ideas?

It seems from your description that when it starts, it tries to boot from OS
9, but at some point fails and then restarts in OS X.

Did you set your startup in the 'Startup Disk' pane in 'System Preferences'?

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Re: Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-12 Thread Geno Endicott
I just installed the system. and I didn't install OS 9.

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Re: Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-12 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 12/03/03 11:59, Geno Endicott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just installed the system. and I didn't install OS 9.

So, you did erase the hard disk first and then proceeded to install X? In
the first 8 GB partition of your drive? 10.1? 10.2?

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Re: Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-12 Thread Geno Endicott
I erased the hard drive, and installed 10.2. And it's the original 8gig hard 
drive.

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Re: Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-12 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 12/03/03 12:11, Geno Endicott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I erased the hard drive, and installed 10.2. And it's the original 8gig hard
 drive.

OK, so, I don't remember clearly from your description, but are you able to
boot into 10.2? If so, did you check that you have your OS X system selected
in the 'Startup Disk' preference pane in 'System Preferences'? What does
that say?

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Re: Wallstreet start up question.

2003-03-12 Thread Andrew Johnson

On Wednesday, March 12, 2003, at 11:45  AM, Geno Endicott wrote:

 I am running OS 10.2.4 on my wallstreet. When I start up I see the 
 little happy
 mac. Then my computer restarts with the grey screen with dark gray 
 apple. Why
 is this? I thought it was to start just with the apple? Any ideas?

 geno.


 From what I understand, the wallstreet is an 'old world' machine, 
meaning that the boot rom is just that, rom. New World machines (like 
my TiBook) actually store the contents of the boot rom on disk (correct 
me if I am wrong.) Since this is an old world machine, the os 9 loader 
begins and loads the software that boots os x. On my Wallstreet, this 
sequence of Happy Mac - Apple Logo only happens after a PRAM reset, if 
this is happening to you every time you shut down, your PRAM battery 
may have gone south.

-Andrew


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