broken airport with many open 802.11 networks still

2006-02-11 Thread Brian McEwen



Ok, Still have issues with airport and 802.11 on some open networks.

It's likely  a combo of broken Apple stuff, and a version of Windows  
server stuff, but I'm tired of being punished by this.


My PDA can get online everywhere, my powerbook 1400 can get online  
everywhere, my nice AlBook cannot.  Tested this repeatedly at the  
problem locations.


If I get a USB 802.11 adapter, will I bypass some of the airport  
stuff and just connect?


I have my little wireless D-Link DWL-G730AP that I can hook up to the  
ethernet jack, and THAT works.  But it's a little more of a pain to  
config when going from place to place.  But If I have to haul that  
huge, matchbook-sized dongle with me :) I can do it.


Suggestions welcome re: hardware.  I really feel done re: help  
troubleshooting networking, please :)  It's real, and it's not  
something I can change, it's certain versions of server-side stuff  
that breaks the Apple side (or the Apple side isn't compliant too, I  
don't know)- but when XP, 9.1, PalmOS 5.0.3, and a Newton Messagepad  
can be configured to connect to an open network, and my 10.4 machine  
cannot, it's not my skills at wireless configs that is the issue...


Thanks,

Brian


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Re: broken airport with many open 802.11 networks still

2006-02-11 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Feb 11, 2006, at 6:49 AM, Brian McEwen wrote:

Suggestions welcome re: hardware.  I really feel done re: help  
troubleshooting networking, please :)  It's real, and it's not  
something I can change, it's certain versions of server-side stuff  
that breaks the Apple side (or the Apple side isn't compliant too,  
I don't know)- but when XP, 9.1, PalmOS 5.0.3, and a Newton  
Messagepad can be configured to connect to an open network, and my  
10.4 machine cannot, it's not my skills at wireless configs that is  
the issue...


No, it isn't. It's a defective AlBook, or more precisely a broken  
Airport Extreme card. It's got nothing to do with OS X or  
configurations. Perhaps the card isn't responding properly on all  
channels, or the firmware is corrupted on it. IAC, I'd get it  
replaced. Open networks should let anything on, and if it won't work  
on open networks something's not right.


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Re: broken airport with many open 802.11 networks still

2006-02-11 Thread Brian McEwen


On Feb 11, 2006, at 12:55 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



No, it isn't. It's a defective AlBook, or more precisely a broken  
Airport Extreme card. It's got nothing to do with OS X or  
configurations. Perhaps the card isn't responding properly on all  
channels, or the firmware is corrupted on it. IAC, I'd get it  
replaced. Open networks should let anything on, and if it won't  
work on open networks something's not right.


I'm pretty sure it's a server side issue with some slightly dated  
services. Big ones, not the local coffee shop with a WRT54G or  
whatever- Windows or Cisco stuff running the show.   For example,  
when I was visiting researchers at one hospital, I couldn't get  
online, called their tech, they'd had complaints of 10.4 users with  
issues.  Couple months go by I hear they are putting a Windows server  
update online, magically, after that, I could connect.  Well I can  
always CONNECT, and pull an IP, but no DNS resolution, and no ping  
out even.  But after  the update, packets actually moved.


No way am I going to fork out the $ for a new airport card (I hate  
Airport, why can't they just put something standard in); and I have  
little faith that the local apple shop will believe me or do  
anything.I guess I'll stop by though, can't hurt to ask.


Anyway I'm still open for USB 802.11b/g suggestions.  How is  
reception/signal on those?  Not much antenna there... I really wanted  
a PCMCIA slot but went for the 12 PB for portability, else this  
would be a no-brainer, I have PCMCIA 802.11 cards.


Thanks,

Brian

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Re: broken airport with many open 802.11 networks still

2006-02-11 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Feb 11, 2006, at 12:36 PM, Brian McEwen wrote:

Anyway I'm still open for USB 802.11b/g suggestions.  How is  
reception/signal on those?


Ok. Our experience with Netgear's version on PC's is that it's almost  
as good as a pcmcia card, about 80% of the effective range.


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Re: broken airport with many open 802.11 networks still

2006-02-11 Thread calebcupplessocialism

On Feb 11, 2006, at 12:36 PM, Brian McEwen wrote:

Ok. Our experience with Netgear's version on PC's is that it's 
almost as good as a pcmcia card, about 80% of the effective range.


The only problem with that is getting one that works with OS X. I 
believe the ones with the Ralink chipset have drivers for OS X, but 
not the others. I haven't a clue about the broadcom stuff, though.


By the way, to refute a statement made in an earlier post about 
Airport not being industry standard, it actually is. It's a stock 
Broadcom bcm43xx series chipset. Now, if Apple would backport the 
Airport Extreme drivers to OS 9, I'd be happy..


Caleb

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