Re: iBook batt's....Re: Going Batty Over Batteries
No problem... I sort of thought that's what you were thinking... I do like that feature on the PB's - green light = go! Best/BG --- Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 00:19:49 -0500 Subject: Re: iBook batt'sRe: Going Batty Over Batteries From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, I was talking about the charge indicator directly on the battery but I just realized that you have an iBook and, as such, your batteries don't have any indicator on them, as opposed to those in the PowerBook G3 Series. Apologies... Laurent Daudelinhttp://home.cox.rr.com/nemesys Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: iBook batt's....Re: Going Batty Over Batteries
At 6.29 AM -0500 4/4/02, BG wrote: For all intents and purposes, I am assuming both batteries are shot. :) I think it's your iBook, actually. If two batteries both exhibit similar symptoms. the odds are it's the machine they're going into, not the batteries. -- Jeremy Derr [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: iBOok batt's....Re: Going Batty Over Batteries
Hope this is not a duplicate, but I don't see it in the digest. This one was submitted (Jeremy) before I replied to David. Thanks/bg Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:35:52 -0600 From: Jeremy Derr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Going Batty Over Batteries At 8.30 AM -0500 4/2/02, BG wrote: I zapped PRAM twice... If you're hitting the little reset button inside the grill, you'll lose the date/time every time you hit that button. That's the power manager reset button and shouldn't be used to shutdown/restart the computer. Instead, just hold in the power button for ~5 seconds. Hi Jeremy: What I did was hold down option-apple-R-P keys. I got that idea from the Mac's Help Guide. :-/ Since then, with help from yooz guys and finally finding the service manual online for the ibook, I am seeing things a little more clearly... 8-) Re: the lithium-ion battery and yoyo adapter: I'm trying to determine if both of these batteries I have are ready for the dumpster. I left the adapter on for 24 hours. Then last night it was amber and the control strip said battery is being recharged. It was amber for about 20 minutes on two occasions. Then it turns green in between, and the control strip then says, battery has been removed from your computer (even though battery is still installed). This could be a problem with the battery or the adapter. or the iBook itself. The best way to figure this out is to first reset the power manager properly (read kbase article #14449 at http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n14449)... Had 2 batteries that came with the ibook. I was forewarned they may or may not even work, hence my experiment. I read somewhere to recharge them 24 hours before even using them. That has now been done with both batteries (the first battery described in first post above). The second battery: During the last 24 hours, the adapter light remained amber, so I was hopeful it was actually recharging the battery. The control strip even says (again) that battery is charged. However, when adapter is removed - out go all the lights! (all power lost). I also read the article above (thank you!) and did as it instructed (2nd battery). But date/time still remains 1/1/04, but instead of 12 AM, it says 12:25 AM (maybe that's from my previously resetting the clock yesterday?) ...and then test with known good adapters and batteries (one at a time, if you swap both at the same time, you won't know which fixed the problem). If you swap batteries and adapters with known goods, and reset the PMU, and the issue persists then it's likely a problem with the Power Manager in the iBook. I am thinking the adapter does work since it does power the ibook (even with dead batteries). And since it appears both batteries are kaput, I am not able to swap with known goods. But thank you for outlining exactly what to do. Very helpful. if you ...don't really need the batteries, should you just take them out of the computer and set them aside? No. Batteries run out of juice eventually and, typically, if they run down through not being used, that tends to ruin them. Thanks for the advice. Not sure if these ran down from typical use (most likely, by prior owner) or from not being used... And/or does it hurt anything to leave them IN and never use them? Not really. OK! Any computer company still using NiCad batteries should be shot, dragged into the streets, hanged, beat, thrown to the wolves, and then REALLY hurt. ;D Hey, now, my uncle up North still sells NiCad batteries for computers! (not really!) :) My cell phone has a LiIon battery in it, too, and I've never worried about running it down... I just charge it whenever I think about it, and the battery still lasts most of a week, if not more. Depending on how much I actually use it, of course. Jeremy Derr[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Jeremy. I think my brain needs a recharge after all of this! -- O -- /BG -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: iBook batt's....Re: Going Batty Over Batteries
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:14:26 -0600 From: Jeremy Derr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: iBook batt'sRe: Going Batty Over Batteries At 6.29 AM -0500 4/4/02, BG wrote: For all intents and purposes, I am assuming both batteries are shot. :) I think it's your iBook, actually. If two batteries both exhibit similar symptoms. the odds are it's the machine they're going into, not the batteries. -- Jeremy Derr[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - H... that opens up a whole 'nother area of mystery... ;) Thanks for the opinion, though! Best/BG -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
Re: iBOok batt's....Re: Going Batty Over Batteries
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:13:15 EST Subject: iBOok batt'sRe: Going Batty Over Batteries THe iBook is a very unique Powerbook, in several angles (not counting it's strange resemblance to a toilet seat).. It does NOT have a PRAM battery, but rather the power is kept from the main battery. THere is a smalll capacitor which will keep the PRAM hot for a minute or so, if you pull the battery (to switch them), but it doesn't have any other power source. Unfortunately, it also doesn't allow the AC power to keep the PRAM hot, so pulling the battery (or having a totally bogus battery) will keep your PRAM stuff very screwed up. Thanks, David Wegener Wegener Media www.wegenermedia.com Hi and Thanks for this major education about the ibook. Who would have guessed? Sounds like all bad news to me since I thought I could use it w/adapter only and not even bother with batteries. Are all of the ibooks made this way (old and new ones)? So, an ibook must ALWAYS have a working battery in it, eh? Time to go shopping... Why the intermittent amber light (evidently signaling a brief false charge)? (It did it again tonight). Just curious. Thanks mucho. Funny about the toilet seat. :) Best regards/BG --- --original message-- From: BG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 08:30:19 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Going Batty Over Batteries Hello... Any advice for a novice on batteries, specifically and in general, and/or links to further info? (The Help Guide on the macs are not always so helpful!) :-/ Specifically: Recently acquired Rev. B iBook (300mhz, 128ram, 6gb, OS 9.1): Date and time is sometimes not holding; the computer is slugglish starting up; sometimes the submenus do not expand, it is freezing up, pointer gets paralyzed, etc. Re: the date/time, Mac Help Menu says something about may need a backup battery replaced by authorized apple retailer. Is this backup battery the same as what is referred to as PRAM? I zapped PRAM twice, and that helped the date/time... for awhile anyway... but when I've had to force quit/shutdown, the date/time is lost again... (that never used to happen on my older DT mac, and I forced/shutdown it many times.) ;) Re: the lithium-ion battery and yoyo adapter: I'm trying to determine if both of these batteries I have are ready for the dumpster. I left the adapter on for 24 hours. Then last night it was amber and the control strip said battery is being recharged. It was amber for about 20 minutes on two occasions. Then it turns green in between, and the control strip then says, battery has been removed from your computer (even though battery is still installed). Could it also be a problem with the yoyo adapter? BTW, I also installed Battery Reset, but that didn't seem to help. General question: For future reference, if you always use the laptop w/power adapter, and don't really need the batteries, should you just take them out of the computer and set them aside? And/or does it hurt anything to leave them IN and never use them? And/or like my cell phone, should batteries be used until they drain completely, and then recharge them over and over, even though you don't really need to be using them (because I'm always by a power outlet)? Thanks for any/all opinions education. Best regards/BG (digest mode) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | RoadTools $30 PodiumPad available at Apple retail stores, $20 Traveler CoolPad at Staples. Both in white for iBooks at http://roadtools.com. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ Using a Mac? Free email more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
