Re: installing os9 over firewire.

2005-01-24 Thread Alex Santos 100MB Neostrada Mail
Panther.
On Jan 24, 2005, at 7:59 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
on 23/01/05 23:53, Ben Dyer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my experience, Panther install CDs work on any machine. The disks
that came with my iBook G4 work on an iMac G3, an aluminium PowerBook
G4, and a Wallstreet (with XPostFacto). It seems to be only earlier OS
install CDs that are machine-specific.
Cheers,
Ben
On 24 Jan 2005, at 15:14, Geoff WALLACE wrote:
Hello Alex,
The eMac CD you are installing OS X from is a machine specific CD for
an
eMac.
You need to get hold of an OS X retail CD and install that over
FireWire.
This has been my experience too. What version of OS X are you trying to
install?
-Laurent.
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Re: installing os9 over firewire.

2005-01-23 Thread Zoltan Batiz
Have you tried Carbon Copy Cloner?  It's at 
http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html

Using this program, I have successfully cloned an entire drive, 
including but not limited to OS 9.2.2 and OS X 10.3.7 to an iBook using 
Firewire Target Disk Mode.  The result was a perfectly working iBook 
that can even boot under OS 9.  Try this as your last option at least 
before you throw in the towel.  Hope this helps. . .

Z
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Re: installing os9 over firewire.

2005-01-23 Thread Zoltan Batiz
On Jan 23, 2005, at 3:41 PM, Alex Santos 100MB Neostrada Mail wrote:
But there is no ibook drive to clone. That's the problem, only my eMac 
is clone-able but then it doesn't have notebook resources such as 
battery stuff on it. Could you tell how your proposal might work under 
my circumstances?


I say try it anyway. . .Mac OS X usually changes during boot-up.  And 
if it does boot on the iBook, but doesn't have the resources, then 
simply download the newest update and see if that works.  Your iBook 
doesn't work now anyway, so what do you have to lose?

Z
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Re: installing os9 over firewire.

2005-01-23 Thread Geoff WALLACE
Hello Alex,

The eMac CD you are installing OS X from is a machine specific CD for an
eMac.

You need to get hold of an OS X retail CD and install that over FireWire.

-
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On 24/1/05 11:22 AM, Alex Santos 100MB Neostrada Mail
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 Well, I have a just-installed OS on the iBook, why does it refuse to
 startup?
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Alex





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Re: installing os9 over firewire.

2005-01-23 Thread Ben Dyer
In my experience, Panther install CDs work on any machine. The disks 
that came with my iBook G4 work on an iMac G3, an aluminium PowerBook 
G4, and a Wallstreet (with XPostFacto). It seems to be only earlier OS 
install CDs that are machine-specific.

Cheers,
Ben
On 24 Jan 2005, at 15:14, Geoff WALLACE wrote:
Hello Alex,
The eMac CD you are installing OS X from is a machine specific CD for 
an
eMac.

You need to get hold of an OS X retail CD and install that over 
FireWire.

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Re: installing os9 over firewire.

2005-01-23 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 23/01/05 23:53, Ben Dyer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In my experience, Panther install CDs work on any machine. The disks
 that came with my iBook G4 work on an iMac G3, an aluminium PowerBook
 G4, and a Wallstreet (with XPostFacto). It seems to be only earlier OS
 install CDs that are machine-specific.
 
 Cheers,
 Ben
 
 On 24 Jan 2005, at 15:14, Geoff WALLACE wrote:
 
 Hello Alex,
 
 The eMac CD you are installing OS X from is a machine specific CD for
 an
 eMac.
 
 You need to get hold of an OS X retail CD and install that over
 FireWire.

This has been my experience too. What version of OS X are you trying to
install?

-Laurent.
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Re: installing os9 over firewire.

2005-01-23 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 23/01/05 19:22, Alex Santos 100MB Neostrada Mail at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, I have a just-installed OS on the iBook, why does it refuse to
 startup?
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Alex
 
 
 On Jan 24, 2005, at 1:03 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
 
 on 23/01/05 18:47, Zoltan Batiz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 On Jan 23, 2005, at 3:41 PM, Alex Santos 100MB Neostrada Mail wrote:
 
 But there is no ibook drive to clone. That's the problem, only my
 eMac
 is clone-able but then it doesn't have notebook resources such as
 battery stuff on it. Could you tell how your proposal might work
 under
 my circumstances?
 
 
 
 I say try it anyway. . .Mac OS X usually changes during boot-up.
 And
 if it does boot on the iBook, but doesn't have the resources, then
 simply download the newest update and see if that works.  Your iBook
 doesn't work now anyway, so what do you have to lose?
 
 Z
 
 
 AFAICT, in OS X, all components are installed. They might not be all
 active,
 but they should be all there. For example, if the battery menu is not
 installed, you would probably need to open it by double-clicking on it
 in
 '/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu Extras'.
 
 -Laurent.

What's happening exactly when you try to boot?

-Laurent.
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installing os9 over firewire.

2005-01-22 Thread Alex Santos 100MB Neostrada Mail
I would like to install os9 over firewire because the ibook's CD ROM 
player is dead.

I have an ibook 500 (which I am returning) but I would like to give it 
another chance as the price was so dandy!

I went out and bought a firewire cable and successfully mounted the 
ibook on the emac's desktop; however, after installing os 9, an 
original cd that came with the first version of OS, resulted in an 
ibook that won't start.

Do I need original ibook CDs?
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Re: installing os9 over firewire.

2005-01-22 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 22/01/05 17:26, Alex Santos 100MB Neostrada Mail at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would like to install os9 over firewire because the ibook's CD ROM
 player is dead.
 
 I have an ibook 500 (which I am returning) but I would like to give it
 another chance as the price was so dandy!
 
 I went out and bought a firewire cable and successfully mounted the
 ibook on the emac's desktop; however, after installing os 9, an
 original cd that came with the first version of OS, resulted in an
 ibook that won't start.
 
 Do I need original ibook CDs?

Could be, but have you tried to bless the new system folder? You just pull
out the Finder, put it on the desktop, then you put it back into the system
folder. Sometimes, it's just what's missing. But maybe something is missing
for the iBook in this OS 9 CD installation...

-Laurent.
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Re: installing os9 over firewire.

2005-01-22 Thread Alex Santos 100MB Neostrada Mail
I will try that and let you know.
I installed everything mobile via a customized install
Could be, but have you tried to bless the new system folder? You 
just pull
out the Finder, put it on the desktop, then you put it back into the 
system
folder. Sometimes, it's just what's missing. But maybe something is 
missing
for the iBook in this OS 9 CD installation...

-Laurent.

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