Re: recycling--on topic!

2004-05-09 Thread peter webster
It's a big province. To go from the major cities outside the prov. 
would cost more than the fees.


At 12:42 PM -0700 05/08/2004, peter webster wrote:
Here's a good idea-- bound to set the manufacturers and dealers off 
on multiple tirades, but it's about being responsible with our junk!
I'm not sure I understand this.  Basically, computer components 
bought in Alberta will have these fees built-in to the retail 
prices?  This is in anticipation that any product bought in Alberta 
will eventaully be disposed of in Alberta?  Sounds to me like a 
great way to get your citizens to buy elsewhere!  How does this not 
screw your local retailers?

- Dan.

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Re: recycling--on topic!

2004-05-09 Thread darm0k
peter webster wrote,
 (originally as an unedited top post, doubling up on
  the ads which cause our lists to be spam-blocked):
At 12:42 PM -0700 05/08/2004, peter webster wrote:
Here's a good idea-- bound to set the manufacturers and dealers 
off on multiple tirades, but it's about being responsible with our 
junk!
I'm not sure I understand this.  Basically, computer components 
bought in Alberta will have these fees built-in to the retail 
prices?  This is in anticipation that any product bought in Alberta 
will eventaully be disposed of in Alberta?  Sounds to me like a 
great way to get your citizens to buy elsewhere!  How does this not 
screw your local retailers?

It's a big province. To go from the major cities outside the prov. 
would cost more than the fees.
People here already drive an hour or more, just to avoid paying sales tax.

What about mail-order?  These fees amount to a $30 premium on a 
system.  Stores already have a hard time competing against mail order 
prices, especially when they offer free shipping.

I can see charging a fee at disposal time.  That makes sense to me... 
But this...?  I just don't understand the reasoning behind this.

- Dan.

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Re: recycling--on topic!

2004-05-09 Thread peter webster
Well, you may be right. It's all kind of rhetorical, at least for me, 
since I live in Oregon.


peter webster wrote,
 (originally as an unedited top post, doubling up on
  the ads which cause our lists to be spam-blocked):
At 12:42 PM -0700 05/08/2004, peter webster wrote:
Here's a good idea-- bound to set the manufacturers and dealers 
off on multiple tirades, but it's about being responsible with 
our junk!
I'm not sure I understand this.  Basically, computer components 
bought in Alberta will have these fees built-in to the retail 
prices?  This is in anticipation that any product bought in 
Alberta will eventaully be disposed of in Alberta?  Sounds to me 
like a great way to get your citizens to buy elsewhere!  How does 
this not screw your local retailers?

It's a big province. To go from the major cities outside the prov. 
would cost more than the fees.
People here already drive an hour or more, just to avoid paying sales tax.

What about mail-order?  These fees amount to a $30 premium on a 
system.  Stores already have a hard time competing against mail 
order prices, especially when they offer free shipping.

I can see charging a fee at disposal time.  That makes sense to 
me... But this...?  I just don't understand the reasoning behind 
this.

- Dan.

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recycling--on topic!

2004-05-08 Thread peter webster
Here's a good idea--bound to set the 
manufacturers and dealers off on multiple 
tirades, but it's about being responsible with 
our junk!

C B C . C A   N e w s   -   F u l l   S t o r y :
Alberta sets electronic recycling fees
Last Updated Fri, 07 May 2004 15:16:38
EDMONTON - The Alberta government is tacking a 
recycling fee onto the cost of electronic 
equipment, the first of its kind in Canada.

The fee will be attached at the first point of 
sale - from the wholesaler to the retailer.

The fee breakdown is:

* $15 to $45 for televisions
* $12 for computer monitors
* $10 for computer processors
* $8 for printers
* $5 for laptops or notebook computers
Environment Minister Lorne Taylor says he hopes 
to divert more than 360,000 kilograms of lead 
from going into Alberta landfills every year.

If you had the opportunity to be out to the 
Edmonton landfill Š to see literally a mountain 
of electronic material out there, you'd realize 
it's not about fees, says Taylor.

Taylor says the fees were set after studying 
guidelines set by the Electronic Products 
Association of Canada, made up of companies such 
as Dell, IBM and Sony.

Saskatchewan and British Columbia are about to set up a similar program

The fee will be collected through a non-profit 
organization called the Alberta Recycling 
Management Authority, starting in October.

Taylor indicated recycling fees may be applied in 
the future to cell phones, stereos, VCRs, DVD 
players, fax machines and video games.

Written by CBC News Online staff

Copyright © 2004 Canadian Broadcasting Corporation - All Rights Reserved

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