Re: road warrior?

[Philip Choi]

Hi Gang

Have any of you ever used a cellphone with a Pismo (or any other
Powerbook) to go online out in the wilds whether there's no
wireless, phone jack or LAN point? If so, please let me know how
it's done. What phones, software and connections between the two did
you use?

I have both 10.3.9 and 9.1 on my Pismo.


Long message, that will (hopefully) demystify things...

As others have said, this is definitely possible, and an EXCELLENT use 
of technology that cell phone providers have thus far provided dismal 
support for.


Almost any cell phone can connect to the computer and will interface as 
a modem device.  Bluetooth is the new rage, but USB connectors work too 
(and I prefer, because often they will provide power to the phone as 
well, so it doesn't run down the battery while online).  This 
compatibility will be dictated by high-level USB architecture, which OS 
9.1 does pretty well.  People make a big deal about modem scripts and 
seem to have a lot of trouble with them.  In reality, the digital 
chipsets in these phones are all made by a few manufacturers, and they 
are all based on standard AT command interface (with some cell phone 
command extensions) from days of yore.  So don't worry about scripts 
not being compatible either.  So from that standpoint I wouldn't worry 
about Mac compatibility.  To answer your question, you shouldn't need 
ANY EXTRA SOFTWARE, apart from a simple text file connection script.  A 
good source for cables is www.boxwave.com.


Primarily there is the CDMA and GSM network in the US.  Both have their 
respective "slow" connections, roughly equivalent to 14.4kbps, "fast" 
connections, somewhere around 100kbps (depending on cell load), both 
available almost anywhere you get a digital signal, and "faster" 
connections that rival WiFi speeds, being deployed these days.  I have 
only used CDMA equipment with Verizon (also the network used by 
Sprint), so I'm not too familiar with the GSM terms.  For CDMA, the 
specification for "fast" connection capability is 1xRTT or what is 
termed "National Access".  "Faster" is EVDO or "Broadband Access", 
which only the newest phones have.  I believe on the GSM side 
(Cingular) they call it EDGE.  You never have to worry about a separate 
ISP, because the connection that's made is a special data connection, 
and your phone's service provider acts as the ISP.  To answer your 
question, any modern phone, even a few years old, will do the trick.  
Look for the buzzwords.


Now, here's the part you're not going to like--the data access (at 
least anything faster than the slowest form) is not cheap.  It can cost 
you upwards of $40 nowadays.  I added the option to my account with 
Verizon a long time ago, so it doesn't cost extra, and just comes out 
of voice minutes.  Great on nights and weekends ;).  If you're 
persuasive enough, maybe you can find some loophole.  It's kind of sad, 
really, that wireless companies seek to make so much money on these 
data connections, which in fact require less bandwidth on average than 
voice; text-messaging not withstanding!  But I digress...


Anyhow, do you have a phone already?  Odds are it will work.  You can 
verify this, and then start by finding a cheap cable to connect to your 
laptop.  If you are looking for a new phone, pick a provider you like 
(Cingular is probably cheapest), and find a phone you like.  Double 
check that it is data capable.  Ask if they sell a USB "sync" cable for 
that particular manufacturer (often, several phones of one manufacturer 
will share the same connector).  Ask about the data plan.  I believe 
there is a 30 day trial period so you can exchange the thing in the 
rare case that it's incompatible.


I've been connecting online with my Lombard like this for almost two 
and a half years now.  Great while traveling.  Airports, hotels, in the 
car on the highway, you name it.  Can fax too, with the proper setup.  
Free printing at hotels ;)


Keep in touch with your progress and any difficulties.  It really is 
convenient once you get it working.


Phil


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Re: road warrior?

[Jeanne Jacques]

Bruce,

I am in the third week of 4 weeks on the road while my husband does oral 
histories of World War II vets for the National Museum of the Pacific War in 
Fredericksburg, Texas (http://www.nimitz-museum.org/).

I do most of my work through databases on the Internet and have only had to use 
a few vacation days so far.
I have a 12" PowerBook G4 running 10.3.9 with an Airport card.

I am sending this from my T-Mobile HotSpot account from Starbucks in West Bend, 
Wisconsin. I have also used SBC FreedomLink and various WiFi connections in 
Best Westerns and Days Inns in Oklahoma & Arkansas plus the public library and 
Coffee Beans in Rhinelander, Wisconsin.

I also have a T-Mobile Internet account that I access through my Motorola V188 
(through a firewire / USB cable).
You can use your cellphone as a phone while you are online.

The cellphone access easy to use and I have even used it in a moving car, but 
it is slower than WiFi so I only use it when the other is not available.

It's very easy to switch from one source to another.

I've used the cellphone on our land in the Bradshaw Mountains near Prescott, 
Arizona. 30 years ago my husband's used a radio phone (in a big suitcase) to 
communicate with his company when we were camped on the mountain. Now I can 
access the Internet there!

How far we've come and how great that is!

Jeanne

On 09/09/05 15:03, "Bruce Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Gang
>
> Have any of you ever used a cellphone with a Pismo (or any other
> Powerbook) to go online out in the wilds whether there's no wireless,
> phone jack or LAN point? If so, please let me know how it's done.
> What phones, software and connections between the two did you use?
>
> I have both 10.3.9 and 9.1 on my Pismo.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Bruce


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Re: road warrior?

[Clark Martin]

At 8:03 PM +0100 9/9/05, Bruce Ryan wrote:

Hi Gang

Have any of you ever used a cellphone with a Pismo (or any other 
Powerbook) to go online out in the wilds whether there's no 
wireless, phone jack or LAN point? If so, please let me know how 
it's done. What phones, software and connections between the two did 
you use?


I have both 10.3.9 and 9.1 on my Pismo.


With an LG VX6000 phone on an iBook (OS X.3.9) and a Wallstreet (OS 
X.2.8) and a Motorola StarTac phone on a Wallstreet (OS X.2.8) and 
5300 (OS 9.1).  The VX6000 is via a USB to serial adapter cable and 
the StarTac was via a serial cable.  I'm on Verizon and through them 
you can dial a Verizon number to get wireless access at around 
50KBps.  I also used the StarTac to dial my ISP but it is limited to 
14,400 Bps.


I bought the VX6000 cable online but it is also available at 
RadioShack stores.  There is software available online that includes 
a serial driver for the USB converter and a modem script.  There is 
one caveat, the modem script can't connect every other time you try 
to connect (which means you have to tell it to try again).


Both phones worked quite well.  I've used both at fixed locations and 
also in a car and train moving down the road and track respectively. 
I've done it in numerous locations including out in the boondocks. 
As long as I get the Verizon network I can connect.  Sometimes I get 
what they call the Extended Network which isn't billed as roaming but 
it functionally is and doesn't work with the dial up.


The dial up access is either included with the basic plan or part of 
an Internet option ($5/mo).  I don't know which since I've always had 
the option.


Since I have the night and weekend free feature I can and have gone 
online for long periods on the weekend many times.


Once you dial up (as per a typical dialup connection) it will connect 
but if there is a period of inactivity the phone disconnects but the 
PPP connection appears to still be connected.  Any activity will 
cause the phone to reconnect quickly.  It is hardly even noticeable 
(it took me a long time to realize the phone chirping was it 
reconnecting).


Oh, yeah, this message is being sent via cell phone.
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Re: road warrior?

[Richard Clark]

Using a Sony Ericsson k700i and a usb BT adapter. The phone connects
then drops out but I'll persist with different scrpts and report back



There is something you need to disable on your mac to keep it from  
dropping out on the ericsson's I had the same problem and changed a  
setting in the network pref pane and now it never drops out anymore ,  
In the PPP advanced options turn off all the check marks in the  
advanced section, everything , echo packets, header compression ect.  
If i remember correctly the one that causes the problems is the echo  
packets one.


Richard

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Re: road warrior?

[Brian L. Matthews]

Have any of you ever used a cellphone with a Pismo (or any other 
Powerbook) to go online out in the wilds whether there's no 
wireless, phone jack or LAN point? If so, please let me know how 
it's done. What phones, software and connections between the two did 
you use?


I've done it with my Samsung i500 on Sprint. The i500 isn't 
Bluetooth, so I have to use a sync cable, but once I plug it in, Mac 
OS X treats it as a modem (no need to install any extra software), so 
I just enter one of my ISP's dialin numbers, tell it to connect, and 
I'm online.


Brian

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Re: road warrior?

[Ian Moffatt]

> On 09/09/05 15:03, "Bruce Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Gang
> >
> > Have any of you ever used a cellphone with a Pismo (or any other
> > Powerbook) to go online out in the wilds whether there's no wireless,
> > phone jack or LAN point? If so, please let me know how it's done.
> > What phones, software and connections between the two did you use?
> >
> > I have both 10.3.9 and 9.1 on my Pismo.

So have I on mine

Using a Sony Ericsson k700i and a usb BT adapter. The phone connects
then drops out but I'll persist with different scrpts and report back

Useful info and scripts at:

http://homepage.mac.com/jrc/contrib/tzones/

Good luck!

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Re: road warrior?

[Steve Fuller]

I've done this from my 17" PB with 10.4.x and a Cingular Treo 650. I  
had to download a new bluetooth prc file to enable dialup networking  
for my Treo, after that it was a matter of pairing the devices up,  
and configuring internet connect to dial Cingluar's data network.


It took maybe 30 minutes or so to get it all going, and that's  
because I'm a bit new to bluetooth and doing this all over it.


Link is at http://homepage.mac.com/vocaro//trevor/treo-dun/#cingular

On Sep 9, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:


On 09/09/05 15:03, "Bruce Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hi Gang

Have any of you ever used a cellphone with a Pismo (or any other
Powerbook) to go online out in the wilds whether there's no wireless,
phone jack or LAN point? If so, please let me know how it's done.
What phones, software and connections between the two did you use?

I have both 10.3.9 and 9.1 on my Pismo.

Many thanks

Bruce



I did it a few times with my PowerBook 17" connected over Bluetooth  
to a
Sony Ericson T637 phone. Once you pair the phone with your laptop,  
the phone

appears as a network interface like the regular internal modem. You
configure it just like you would do for a modem and when you click
"Connect", the laptop establishes the connection with the cellphone  
which in
turn connect to the Internet. Very easy. I have, however, no idea  
how you
would do this from a Pismo. Maybe a Bluetooth USB adapter would  
work, but I

have no idea.

-Laurent.
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Re: road warrior?

[Laurent Daudelin]

On 09/09/05 15:03, "Bruce Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Gang
> 
> Have any of you ever used a cellphone with a Pismo (or any other
> Powerbook) to go online out in the wilds whether there's no wireless,
> phone jack or LAN point? If so, please let me know how it's done.
> What phones, software and connections between the two did you use?
> 
> I have both 10.3.9 and 9.1 on my Pismo.
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Bruce

I did it a few times with my PowerBook 17" connected over Bluetooth to a
Sony Ericson T637 phone. Once you pair the phone with your laptop, the phone
appears as a network interface like the regular internal modem. You
configure it just like you would do for a modem and when you click
"Connect", the laptop establishes the connection with the cellphone which in
turn connect to the Internet. Very easy. I have, however, no idea how you
would do this from a Pismo. Maybe a Bluetooth USB adapter would work, but I
have no idea.

-Laurent.
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road warrior?

[Bruce Ryan]

Hi Gang

Have any of you ever used a cellphone with a Pismo (or any other 
Powerbook) to go online out in the wilds whether there's no wireless, 
phone jack or LAN point? If so, please let me know how it's done. 
What phones, software and connections between the two did you use?


I have both 10.3.9 and 9.1 on my Pismo.

Many thanks

Bruce
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