Re: 10.10, XI or What?
Bruce I tend to agree with you about Linux at present. It has been there for years, never really made an impact. Ubuntu is gaining a lot of ground. With each new release is fast becoming a mainstream OS contender but it still has a long way to go. It is still too buggy and geeky for someone who just wants an OS to use. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: 10.10, XI or What? From: Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/10/2008 00:55 On Oct 9, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Doug McNutt wrote: if you find a bug you can fix it yourself and contribute the fix to the community. Right, because the majority of people who use computers these days all know C++ and can read the source code. rolls eyes Linux is great, it has it's place, but seriously, trying to say it's on par with OS X on the UI front is delusional. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.10, XI or What?
Doug Of course the X in OSX stands for 10. Some people refer to it as OS 10. It makes sense as it follows OS9. But I do think it has some hankering on to the NeXT days too. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: 10.10, XI or What? From: Doug McNutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09/10/2008 23:39 At 22:03 +0100 10/9/08, Simon Royal wrote: I know this is a long way off, but what do we think Apple will do after they reach Mac OSX 10.9 'Lion'. Will they go for 10.10? There's nothing wrong with that. Other 'NIX apps do it. But the X in OS-X does NOT stand for the base of decimal arithmetic, 10. I'm convinced that it is there because Steve came home from NexT, Inc. and the folks who came with him really wanted to preserve the concept of GUI applications existing in a UNIX background. OS 10 would have been an improvement of OS 9: Instead. . . OS neXt was a whole new system that required dropping a whole lot of the good that came with the classic MacOS. In my case it's the loss of MPW which was really a way to make classic Mac behave a bit like UNIX. It's not that I disapprove. Right now I'm enjoying ubuntu which works a whole lot like OS neXt but there are no secrets to worry about and if you find a bug you can fix it yourself and contribute the fix to the community. It's also cheaper at a total cost of $0.0. If you're thinking about upgrading from your G4 to a newer Intel-based Apple box you owe it to yourself to check out ubuntu. Nautilus replaces Finder and the gnome toolkit is a whole like the Mac-classic toolbox. Reasonable people can well disagree, but checking it out costs nothing but access to a friend who has an Intel box you can play with. And yes I'm still showing 10 x cost on my AAPL. Perhaps that's OS 10.X.1 -- -- If it's not on fire it's a software problem. -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Drives. Internal Or External?
On Oct 10, 2008, at 6:16 AM, Simon Royal wrote: Hi I have always had all-in-one Macs as my main machine so any drives added have always been external. Well now I have a PowerMac G4 'Sawtooth' making it easier to add hard drives and optical drives. I have a few queries. Firstly, I have a Pioneer 112D in a firewire case, could I add this in as a second optical drive. I currently have a zip drive underneath my main optical drive, but could I add a second? I think there are problems to solve with the mounting bracket and bezel replacement. Secondly, I have a 120GB hard drive in a firewire case. Would there be any advantage of putting it internally. I currently have a 20GB 7200RPM boot drive and a 20GB slave drive, could I add a third hard drive into it? Its nice to have a backup / bootable drive in an external FW case ... a hard drive that doesn't get turned on every time you use the computer ... maybe housing a CCC copy of your OS X and other important partitions / data. Don't think there's the 128GB limitation on the external setup ... so maybe put the 120 inside, and get a 500 or 750GB for the external case ... if it has a good Oxford type bridge. Does this Mac suffer from the 128GB HD limit and is that per drive or collective drives? I believe if you use a controller PCI IDE/66-100-133 card for ATA drives, you can bypass the limitation of 128GB (I think the limitation is per drive, excepting RAID structures ???). Also think there's software like Tech Tool Pro that will help with the onboard ATA bus interaction with the drive. Not very familiar with that technique. Have you seen Mactracker for well displayed summaries on all Macs made? http://www.mactracker.ca/ Others will have more details. Best, Bill --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Drives. Internal Or External?
On Oct 10, 2008, at 3:16 , Simon Royal wrote: Hi I have always had all-in-one Macs as my main machine so any drives added have always been external. Well now I have a PowerMac G4 'Sawtooth' making it easier to add hard drives and optical drives. I have a few queries. Firstly, I have a Pioneer 112D in a firewire case, could I add this in as a second optical drive. I currently have a zip drive underneath my main optical drive, but could I add a second? Electrically, it would work, but the zip drive bay is way smaller and I don't think there is an option for a door on the front for a second optical drive. You could always leave the front panel for the zip and optical drive off the case, but that looks kind of rookie. ;- A mounting bracket would be the big problem... doable, of course, but prolly a little messy. Secondly, I have a 120GB hard drive in a firewire case. Would there be any advantage of putting it internally. I currently have a 20GB 7200RPM boot drive and a 20GB slave drive, could I add a third hard drive into it? I have a large data drive in the zip drive bay, running off the optical drive bus on my DA and it works fine for my purposes. The bus is slower (IIRC) and that might be an issue, depending on your needs, but it works. Does this Mac suffer from the 128GB HD limit and is that per drive or collective drives? Yes... and that is per drive. There are some ways around this, but in my early morning, pre-caffeine fog I can't put my finger on them. :-) Amanda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Drives. Internal Or External?
Amanda OK. So if my large drive is only 120GB, I should be able to put it in the PowerMac where the zip drive is and keep my 20GB boot drive and 20GB other drive with no problems? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Oct 10 2008, Amanda Ward wrote: On Oct 10, 2008, at 3:16 , Simon Royal wrote: Hi I have always had all-in-one Macs as my main machine so any drives added have always been external. Well now I have a PowerMac G4 'Sawtooth' making it easier to add hard drives and optical drives. I have a few queries. Firstly, I have a Pioneer 112D in a firewire case, could I add this in as a second optical drive. I currently have a zip drive underneath my main optical drive, but could I add a second? Electrically, it would work, but the zip drive bay is way smaller and I don't think there is an option for a door on the front for a second optical drive. You could always leave the front panel for the zip and optical drive off the case, but that looks kind of rookie. ;- A mounting bracket would be the big problem... doable, of course, but prolly a little messy. Secondly, I have a 120GB hard drive in a firewire case. Would there be any advantage of putting it internally. I currently have a 20GB 7200RPM boot drive and a 20GB slave drive, could I add a third hard drive into it? I have a large data drive in the zip drive bay, running off the optical drive bus on my DA and it works fine for my purposes. The bus is slower (IIRC) and that might be an issue, depending on your needs, but it works. Does this Mac suffer from the 128GB HD limit and is that per drive or collective drives? Yes... and that is per drive. There are some ways around this, but in my early morning, pre-caffeine fog I can't put my finger on them. :-) Amanda --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Drives. Internal Or External?
Bill. Might just swap the old Pioneer A03 out and put the 112D in instead. The 120GB is not a bootable drive. It houses my music collection. Just wondered whether it would be better internally or externally. I connect to it via network anyway from different machines which I can still do if it is internally stored. I could then put the 20GB slave into the firewire case and use it as a bootable clone or for storing important stuff off away from the internal drives. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: Drives. Internal Or External? From: insightinmind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/10/2008 12:37 On Oct 10, 2008, at 6:16 AM, Simon Royal wrote: Hi I have always had all-in-one Macs as my main machine so any drives added have always been external. Well now I have a PowerMac G4 'Sawtooth' making it easier to add hard drives and optical drives. I have a few queries. Firstly, I have a Pioneer 112D in a firewire case, could I add this in as a second optical drive. I currently have a zip drive underneath my main optical drive, but could I add a second? I think there are problems to solve with the mounting bracket and bezel replacement. Secondly, I have a 120GB hard drive in a firewire case. Would there be any advantage of putting it internally. I currently have a 20GB 7200RPM boot drive and a 20GB slave drive, could I add a third hard drive into it? Its nice to have a backup / bootable drive in an external FW case ... a hard drive that doesn't get turned on every time you use the computer ... maybe housing a CCC copy of your OS X and other important partitions / data. Don't think there's the 128GB limitation on the external setup ... so maybe put the 120 inside, and get a 500 or 750GB for the external case ... if it has a good Oxford type bridge. Does this Mac suffer from the 128GB HD limit and is that per drive or collective drives? I believe if you use a controller PCI IDE/66-100-133 card for ATA drives, you can bypass the limitation of 128GB (I think the limitation is per drive, excepting RAID structures ???). Also think there's software like Tech Tool Pro that will help with the onboard ATA bus interaction with the drive. Not very familiar with that technique. Have you seen Mactracker for well displayed summaries on all Macs made? http://www.mactracker.ca/ Others will have more details. Best, Bill --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Drives. Internal Or External?
Hi I have always had all-in-one Macs as my main machine so any drives added have always been external. Well now I have a PowerMac G4 'Sawtooth' making it easier to add hard drives and optical drives. I have a few queries. Firstly, I have a Pioneer 112D in a firewire case, could I add this in as a second optical drive. I currently have a zip drive underneath my main optical drive, but could I add a second? Secondly, I have a 120GB hard drive in a firewire case. Would there be any advantage of putting it internally. I currently have a 20GB 7200RPM boot drive and a 20GB slave drive, could I add a third hard drive into it? Does this Mac suffer from the 128GB HD limit and is that per drive or collective drives? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Gmail Question
At 12:17 PM -0400 10/9/2008, Dan wrote: I received three emails from Beliefnet. All three were moved to the Spam box by GMail. So I have now created a filter in GMail to NOT move Beliefnet items to the Spam box. We'll see if that works tonite. Today I received three more messages from Beliefnet. All three were left in the Inbox by GMail, so they could be automatically downloaded by Eudora. To make the filter: Sign onto your GMail account. Locate and view a Beliefnet email. From the More Actions pop-up menu, select Filter messages like these. Make sure that the only criteria set is *from* Beliefnet. Make sure it lists the right emails in the sample search results. Click Next Step Check Never send it to spam Click Create Filter. Logout of GMail. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
DirectTV DVR
I have some recordings in my dvr that I need to transfer to one of my Macs (either a Quicksilver or a G5). DirectTV was not very helpful. Any suggestions would be welcomed. TIA. Pete. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DirectTV DVR
I have some recordings in my dvr that I need to transfer to one of my Macs (either a Quicksilver or a G5). DirectTV was not very helpful. Any suggestions would be welcomed. TIA. You are most likely out of luck. This is one of the reasons we switched to cable with a TiVo as the DVR. If you attach a DVD burner to the DirectTV DVR the resulting file should be useable. Be sure to let us know how it turns out. . --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Warrior-How?
On Oct 9, 5:12 pm, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh. It was a long, hard, and bloody battle, and unfortunately, the barbarians seem to have won. Half the list is a well-nigh unreadable mass of top posted ignorance anymore. Me, I blame AOL for letting their unwashed hordes onto the net in 1993 for this. I think the programmers for the client software which sets top posting as the default insertion point are to blame, myself. That meant that not only did one have an uphill battle indoctrinating clueless newbies, but their software was sitting there telling them to top post. Whose client application first made this unforgivable gaff? Jeff Walther --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DirectTV DVR
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Richie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some recordings in my dvr that I need to transfer to one of my Macs (either a Quicksilver or a G5). DirectTV was not very helpful. Any suggestions would be welcomed. TIA. Go ask at the Yahoo group Dishrip. Pax -- Paxton Hoag Astoria, OR USA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DirectTV DVR
Previously, at 13:8 pm -0700 10/10/08, Paxton wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Richie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have some recordings in my dvr that I need to transfer to one of my Macs (either a Quicksilver or a G5). DirectTV was not very helpful. Any suggestions would be welcomed. TIA. Go ask at the Yahoo group Dishrip. No such group on Yahoo? -- In Mexico we have a word for sushi: Bait. -- Jose Simon --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Warrior-How?
On 10/10/08 12:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Broadcast into the ether: I think the programmers for the client software which sets top posting as the default insertion point are to blame, myself. That meant that not only did one have an uphill battle indoctrinating clueless newbies, but their software was sitting there telling them to top post. As irrelevant as this is to the thread... Top posting is so backwards and unreadable that even if a client forced it (as mine does by default) a person should learn to trim and edit their responses. If they don't they look like morons. Kyle Hansen -- This is the way the world ends...not with a bang, but a twitter. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
128GB Limit Question
Hi I have been trying to find the answer to this question, but to no avail. All G4s (and G3s for that matter) before the Mirror Drive Door suffer from the 128GB hard drive limit, but does my PowerMac G4 Sawtooth AGP Graphics have a maximum limit of 128GB or a maximum limit per drive of 128GB. I have a 20GB boot drive (primary master) and a 20GB on the same cable (primary slave). Then I have a DVD drive (secondary master) and zip drive (secondary slave). I am proposing to have a 20GB boot drive (primary master), a 120GB on the same cable (primary slave) as both drives are 7200RPM. Then a DVD drive (secondary master) and a 20GB (secondary slave). This would take me to 160GB (technically) on the internal ATA. Would this work? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 128GB Limit Question
On Oct 10, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Simon Royal wrote: Hi I have been trying to find the answer to this question, but to no avail. All G4s (and G3s for that matter) before the Mirror Drive Door suffer from the 128GB hard drive limit, but does my PowerMac G4 Sawtooth AGP Graphics have a maximum limit of 128GB or a maximum limit per drive of 128GB. It is per drive. I have 2 120GBs on my DA's main channel with no problem. Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 128GB Limit Question
Bruce So it would be wiser to put the two 7200RPM drives on the primary and the optical drive and third slower hard drive on the secondary. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Oct 10 2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 10, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Simon Royal wrote: All G4s (and G3s for that matter) before the Mirror Drive Door suffer from the 128GB hard drive limit, but does my PowerMac G4 Sawtooth AGP Graphics have a maximum limit of 128GB or a maximum limit per drive of 128GB. it is per physical drive, so you can have 256 GB on the bus if you wanted (2x128GB drives). Also, this only applies to the faster of the two internal ATA busses. The ATA bus the optical drive is on is not subject to that limitation, but it's slower. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 128GB Limit Question
Hi What's the best way to use this drive? Internally or via a firewire case? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Oct 10 2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 10, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Simon Royal wrote: Bruce So it would be wiser to put the two 7200RPM drives on the primary and the optical drive and third slower hard drive on the secondary. Yes. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 128GB Limit Question
On Oct 10, 2008, at 2:59 PM, Simon Royal wrote: Bruce So it would be wiser to put the two 7200RPM drives on the primary and the optical drive and third slower hard drive on the secondary. Yes. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 128GB Limit Question
On Oct 10, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Simon Royal wrote: Hi What's the best way to use this drive? Internally or via a firewire case? It depends. Internal it's always there, and is probably faster throughput. Cheaper to install, too. External, you can always move it to another computer. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 128GB Limit Question
Bruce I have had this drive sitting in a firewire case. I have never moved it to another Mac and if I need to access it from my laptop I usually just connect over the network. With this in mind it would probably be better to put internally so it is always there on my desktop and faster speed when network connecting. Plus one less thing to power. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Oct 10 2008, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 10, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Simon Royal wrote: Hi What's the best way to use this drive? Internally or via a firewire case? It depends. Internal it's always there, and is probably faster throughput. Cheaper to install, too. External, you can always move it to another computer. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Trash can panic!
Ok guys, got a friend that just called me saying he threw files away that he didn't want to lose (long story) is there ANY way of retrieving files that have been trashed? any advice will be helpful. PS- He's using a Black Macbook with Leopard on it and no time machine volume. Thanks, Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 128GB Limit Question
Peter I was ready to go with it until you confused me. (Sorry it's late) So none of my drives are larger than 128GB. I would be putting 120GB and 20GB on the main IDE, so will this be fine. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Oct 10 2008, PeterH wrote: On Oct 10, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Simon Royal wrote: I have been trying to find the answer to this question, but to no avail. All G4s (and G3s for that matter) before the Mirror Drive Door suffer from the 128GB hard drive limit ... No, this limit was absolutely and finally removed with the Quicksilver 2002, not the MDD (although it was indeed removed in the MDD). But, this limit could be conditionally and temporarily/semi- permanently removed with all G4s. The LBA48 property is in all G4s that I own, but I only own AGP video G4s, not the earlier PCI video G4s. These properties ... one for the HD bus and another for the optical bus ... are there for large drive support, but these are not enabled, unless and until you do something to enable them, which takes a script in your TERMINAL window to effect. Search for 'LBA48' and I'm sure you'll find the scripts and their installation instructions. ... but does my PowerMac G4 Sawtooth AGP Graphics have a maximum limit of 128GB or a maximum limit per drive of 128GB. The limit applies on a per-device basis. HOWEVER, the property applies on a bus basis. IOW, if you enable the LBA48 property on the HD bus, then any and all devices attached to the HD bus will have the LBA48 property, but the optical bus won't. You have to enable the optical bus separately. I have a 20GB boot drive (primary master) and a 20GB on the same cable (primary slave). Then I have a DVD drive (secondary master) and zip drive (secondary slave). I am proposing to have a 20GB boot drive (primary master), a 120GB on the same cable (primary slave) as both drives are 7200RPM. Then a DVD drive (secondary master) and a 20GB (secondary slave). This would take me to 160GB (technically) on the internal ATA. Would this work? Sure. If you want to try applying the so-called LBA48 property enablement method, this will add the large drive property to your boot ROM, wherein this property is stored in your Mac's NVRAM. It will remain there, and enabled, until you cause the NVRAM to be reset. Another method is the Intech High-Cap kext, which applies only after booting. As the High-Cap kext appears not to work with 10.5, I have elected to apply the LBA48 property to my Digital Audio G4 (dual 1.0 GHz), and I use this property with complete transparency across 10.3, 10.4 and 10.5. In every case, I am using the highest level of each OS, and with all applicable updates. N.B. The High-Cap applies to all buses collectively, not just one. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Disk Warrior-How?
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 9, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Michael Kopp wrote: Hey, fellas and girls, not nice to give people serial numbers for pirated software on a supposedly respectable mailing list. Which is against list rules, as all parties to this convo should well have known. However, it's entirely possible it was an unintentionally broadcast personal reply. Don't know where your listmoms are, or what rulz you have, but tsk, tsk. Also, I can't believe a Macintosh list is all top-posted! Yeesh. Sigh. It was a long, hard, and bloody battle, and unfortunately, the barbarians seem to have won. Half the list is a well-nigh unreadable mass of top posted ignorance anymore. Me, I blame AOL for letting their unwashed hordes onto the net in 1993 for this. http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/S/September-that-never-ended.html I resemble that remark and take no offense :p I dumped america off line several years ago after I got tired of paying for an account that was unmanageable and 90% spam. I had to pay local isp to avoid long distance charges. I've been on a real list long enough to hate top posting. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 128GB Limit Question
On Oct 10, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Simon Royal wrote: So none of my drives are larger than 128GB. I would be putting 120GB and 20GB on the main IDE, so will this be fine. Hmmm ... I read it as 160 GB, not 120 GB. 120 GB drives haven't been manufactured for the better part of a decade. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 128GB Limit Question
Peter Well I subscribe to the lower end of Macs. The AGP G4 was introduced nearly 10 years ago. Anyway. I have 3 hard drives. A 20GB (my boot drive) and a 120GB proposing to go on the primary IDE. I then have a DVD drive and 20GB proposing to go on the secondary IDE. This is where the 160GB comes from. Will this configuration work? Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk - Mac news, reviews, guides, upgrades, hacks and more... - http://www.nmug.org.uk - webmaster for Norwich Mac User Group - The box said requires Windows XP or better, so I bought an Apple Mac. On Oct 11 2008, PeterH wrote: On Oct 10, 2008, at 4:10 PM, Simon Royal wrote: So none of my drives are larger than 128GB. I would be putting 120GB and 20GB on the main IDE, so will this be fine. Hmmm ... I read it as 160 GB, not 120 GB. 120 GB drives haven't been manufactured for the better part of a decade. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 10.10, XI or What?
2008/10/10 Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Howdy, Most of my friends can read C++ code, but only a few actively write it. I don't however think my sample is representative. The comparison expressed is pretty delusional, since Linux passed OSX in UI usability a while back. OSX is still prettier, but not flashier I agree here; OS X seems nonstandard after using other flavours of UNIX. or more usable. Adoption of the broad market takes a while, but is progressing. In the mean time, it is good to know OSX and Linux. Rationally yours, Ralph On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 16:55 -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote: Right, because the majority of people who use computers these days all know C++ and can read the source code. rolls eyes Linux is great, it has it's place, but seriously, trying to say it's on par with OS X on the UI front is delusional. -- -hackmiester --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 128GB Limit Question
On Oct 10, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Simon Royal wrote: I have been trying to find the answer to this question, but to no avail. All G4s (and G3s for that matter) before the Mirror Drive Door suffer from the 128GB hard drive limit ... No, this limit was absolutely and finally removed with the Quicksilver 2002, not the MDD (although it was indeed removed in the MDD). But, this limit could be conditionally and temporarily/semi- permanently removed with all G4s. The LBA48 property is in all G4s that I own, but I only own AGP video G4s, not the earlier PCI video G4s. These properties ... one for the HD bus and another for the optical bus ... are there for large drive support, but these are not enabled, unless and until you do something to enable them, which takes a script in your TERMINAL window to effect. Search for 'LBA48' and I'm sure you'll find the scripts and their installation instructions. ... but does my PowerMac G4 Sawtooth AGP Graphics have a maximum limit of 128GB or a maximum limit per drive of 128GB. The limit applies on a per-device basis. HOWEVER, the property applies on a bus basis. IOW, if you enable the LBA48 property on the HD bus, then any and all devices attached to the HD bus will have the LBA48 property, but the optical bus won't. You have to enable the optical bus separately. I have a 20GB boot drive (primary master) and a 20GB on the same cable (primary slave). Then I have a DVD drive (secondary master) and zip drive (secondary slave). I am proposing to have a 20GB boot drive (primary master), a 120GB on the same cable (primary slave) as both drives are 7200RPM. Then a DVD drive (secondary master) and a 20GB (secondary slave). This would take me to 160GB (technically) on the internal ATA. Would this work? Sure. If you want to try applying the so-called LBA48 property enablement method, this will add the large drive property to your boot ROM, wherein this property is stored in your Mac's NVRAM. It will remain there, and enabled, until you cause the NVRAM to be reset. Another method is the Intech High-Cap kext, which applies only after booting. As the High-Cap kext appears not to work with 10.5, I have elected to apply the LBA48 property to my Digital Audio G4 (dual 1.0 GHz), and I use this property with complete transparency across 10.3, 10.4 and 10.5. In every case, I am using the highest level of each OS, and with all applicable updates. N.B. The High-Cap applies to all buses collectively, not just one. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Trash can panic!
Unless he has done the Empty Trash routine, they are still available, in one humungus mixed up folder called Trash. Double click on the 'Trash Can and look through the 'trashed files' --- find the wanted file, and drag it back to wherever. [In 'Trash' there may be multiple files with the same name. YOU get to identify the correct recipient of your attention.] HTH Chuck D. On Oct 10, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Ok guys, got a friend that just called me saying he threw files away that he didn't want to lose (long story) is there ANY way of retrieving files that have been trashed? any advice will be helpful. PS- He's using a Black Macbook with Leopard on it and no time machine volume. Thanks, Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: TFT Fuzziness Solved... Ish
On Oct 10, 2:39 am, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Well I have managed to work out there is nothing wrong with my PowerMac G4 or the graphics card in it. I hooked my TFT monitor up to my iMac G3 via the VGA port on the back (for mirroring) and the picture was just as fuzzy, so it is the monitor after all. Maybe I am just very fussy, but the picture quality and crispness on the iMac G3 is about the best I have seen in a long time. I then checked the picture on my iBook G3 and PowerBook G3 and while this is very good it doesn't measure up to the sharpness of the iMac - another thing that makes them awesome machines. Simon Yes, Simon, I agree. Compared with the Window$ machines I suffer with at work, all my old Macs have better, crisper, easier-to-read displays. I think Window$ users are conditioned to expect crappy performance. Must have something to do with Quartz, or Core, or some such... V Mabus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
No valid video device found
G4 DA with Newer Tech 1.6 Ghz CPU, 512 Mb RAM, Rage Pro 128 video card, Acer 22 widescreen monitor, running 10.5.5 I popped in a Monk DVD and wanted to check out the new display. Imagine my surprise when I got the above message. I know the Rage 128 Pro card is crap, but one just like it worked fine with the same combo drive in my BW. What gives? Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: TFT Fuzziness Solved... Ish
Vic The previous owner of the TFT had it running on a PC and a G4 Cube, to which he reported it was working fine. Maybe I am just used to the awesome quality of the iMac G3. Simon --- www.simonroyal.co.uk and www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: TFT Fuzziness Solved... Ish From: Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11/10/2008 01:07 On Oct 10, 2:39 am, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Well I have managed to work out there is nothing wrong with my PowerMac G4 or the graphics card in it. I hooked my TFT monitor up to my iMac G3 via the VGA port on the back (for mirroring) and the picture was just as fuzzy, so it is the monitor after all. Maybe I am just very fussy, but the picture quality and crispness on the iMac G3 is about the best I have seen in a long time. I then checked the picture on my iBook G3 and PowerBook G3 and while this is very good it doesn't measure up to the sharpness of the iMac - another thing that makes them awesome machines. Simon Yes, Simon, I agree. Compared with the Window$ machines I suffer with at work, all my old Macs have better, crisper, easier-to-read displays. I think Window$ users are conditioned to expect crappy performance. Must have something to do with Quartz, or Core, or some such... V Mabus --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iTunes store question
How do you de-authorize a computer that is no longer used for iTunes purchases? Someone told me this is possible, were they wrong? Just another message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: No valid video device found
On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:09 PM, Doug Burton wrote: G4 DA with Newer Tech 1.6 Ghz CPU, 512 Mb RAM, Rage Pro 128 video card, Acer 22 widescreen monitor, running 10.5.5 I popped in a Monk DVD and wanted to check out the new display. Imagine my surprise when I got the above message. I know the Rage 128 Pro card is crap, but one just like it worked fine with the same combo drive in my BW. What gives? Think I just figured this one out. I rebooted into 10.3.9 and the DVD player works fine there. I never thought about it but I guess that 10.5.x no longer recognizes older video cards and doesn't install any driver for them. That might also explain why I can't browse my album artwork in iTunes. I've got the newer video card on it's way so I won't worry too much about finding the correct driver for the old card. Sorry to bother everyone, resume normal activity. Just an answer from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes store question
Previously, at 20:54 pm -0400 10/10/08, Doug Burton wrote: I almost reposted this question as I knew I worded it wrong. What I meant was that I no longer have access to the computer I wish to de- authorize. I know how to do it with a computer that is in use. Someone told me it is possible to go somewhere in the iTunes store and de-authorize a computer that is no longer being used. I hope I made that clear this time. Sorry. Same answer, you just deauthorize all of 'em. However, you only get to do it once a year. P. -- /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / No HTML/RTF in email X No Word docs in email / \ Respect for open standards --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes store question
On Oct 10, 2008, at 8:26 PM, Doug Burton wrote: How do you de-authorize a computer that is no longer used for iTunes purchases? Someone told me this is possible, were they wrong? Just another message from Doug... There's information on that at the bottom of this article: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1206 Basically, you have to Deauthorize All and then Authorize again the computers still in use. This option is only available to you once a year. - Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DirectTV DVR
Go ask at the Yahoo group Dishrip. No such group on Yahoo? Sorry, lower case d - dishrip http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/dishrip/?yguid=219215883 Pax --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Using Radeon 7000 AGP in a G4 Digital Audio?
Hi all, Just bought an ATI Radeon 7000 AGP card for $10 NIB. It's for a PC, so I want to flash the bios and use it in my G4 Digital Audio. I've seen some references on the net that Radeon 7000 cards were PCI only... but this one is definitely AGP. It's marketed by a company called Connect 3D and based on the Radeon 7000 processor. Anyone here tried to flash one of these to work in a G4 like the Digital Audio or any other suggestions in flashing a PC AGP card to work in a G4? Thanks, Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: TFT Fuzziness Solved... Ish
My two BW G3's and my G4 Digital Audio all have slightly fuzzy video when connected to TFT monitors... yet look sharp and crisp when connected to conventional SVGA monitors. Not really a big deal to me. I just presumed the video cards were not optimized for good TFT performance. Steve On Oct 10, 3:39 am, Simon Royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I have managed to work out there is nothing wrong with my PowerMac G4 or the graphics card in it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Gmail Question
As I have stated 1) Only the Chicken Soup email gets marked as SPAM (none of the others I subscribe to are so marked) 2) I have added them to my Contacts 3) I have marked the option NEVER PUT IN SPAM FOLDER (or whatever it says) 4) Its still going to SPAM despite all those efforts. On 10/10/08, gifutiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 8, 2:47 am, gifutiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 2, 4:54 pm, Stephen Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I had asked earlier about getting gmail to stop putting something into the SPAM folder. I tried what was suggested. I set the preferences to NEVER PUT INTO SPAM FOLDER that particular email. It is STILL putting it into the SPAM folder. How do I get it to stop doing that? It is something I subscribed to (one of the Beliefnet mailing lists) and I have NEVER marked it as Spam. -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! Greetings Steve ( + )!( + ) Did you read (at the bottom of the http://www.beliefnet.com/newsletter/[EMAIL PROTECTED]nls=22%7c51%7c49%7cspid=) news letter sign-up page Important Notice Make Sure You Receive Your FREE Newsletters: Some Internet Service Providers block Beliefnet newsletters as unrequested emails. To ensure that you receive your newsletter(s), please add partner.beliefnet.com to your email Address Book now. And did you add the partner.beliefnet.com address to your GMAIL address book? If not perhaps you should give it a try. Best regards, Harry ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?º?ø (-_-)zzz Greetings ( + )!( + ) I've subscribed to two of the Beliefnet mailing lists and set the preferences in my gamil.com account to NEVER PUT INTO SPAM FOLDER for these particular emails and everything works Okay. I've received eMails from http://www.beliefnet.com/ which are not marked as SPAM so I think that you have, possibly not save the request to not put email from Beliefnet into the SPAM folder. Best regards, Harry -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
