Re: Mac OS 9 Booting in X Only G4 Macs, using firmware tweaks
On May 22, 2009, at 12:39 AM, Mullin9 wrote: Is there's a way to boot the X Only G4 Macs, Using Mac OS 9, using firmware tweaks Perhaps possible, but why? Unless you plan to write new OS 9 hardware drivers for a myriad of new hardware, for example: FW800, PCI-X, PCIe, 802.11g/n, newer PCcard slots, newer video cards, RAM (new Macs have too much RAM for OS 9 to handle, and remember, in OS 9 you have to manually allocate more RAM to each individual program), etc., etc.; it would be easier to obtain a supported OS 9 Mac somewhere for cheap or free. Remember, all this newer hardware IS supported for OS 9 under Classic emulation. If you need OS 9, use Classic, or get a Mac that can boot OS 9. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS 9 Booting in X Only G4 Macs, using firmware tweaks
On 5/22/09 4:00 AM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Remember, all this newer hardware IS supported for OS 9 under Classic emulation. If you need OS 9, use Classic, or get a Mac that can boot OS 9. The problem is that Classic emulation does not function with 10.5 or the intel Macs... -- MaGioZal. http://fotolog.com/_magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bigger Internal HDs Bigger External Firewire/USB HD
yersi...@cybernex.net wrote: Hiya Listers, snip G4 867 Quicksilver with 2 internal HDs: 1. Nucleus -- OS X Tiger 10.4.9, 60 GB (came with this Mac originally). 2. Nucleolus -- OS X Panther 10.3.2, 20 GB (was pulled out of my Beige G3 and transplanted in when I got the G4) The current external HD: Memory Prime -- 40 GB. Not bootable, just a data backup. I just kick updated data over there from Nucleus or Nucleolus as required (Finder copy). This has has always worked well for me thus far -- yes, I've actually had to use stuff from this backup drive -- and yeah it saved me, big time! Obviously I'm planning to make Nucleus and Nucleolus 250 GB each. I don't actually NEED anywhere near that amount of space at this time snip--- first which model QS? If 2002 or 2002ed then no problems w/ large drives. But!! if first model then you will haveto partition or use third party software to set drive up. Look in archives for drive size limitations, and high text cap Either way if you don't need the 20 gig, replace w/ the 60 gig after cloning (60 gig) to 250 gig Put second 250 in place of 40 gig. You should have 2 empty hard drive bays - you could leave the 20 and 40 in the QS. If the bracket/cables are missing post a wtb over on LEM swap. By the way is Memory Prime Firewire or usb? ve some questions about the external HD business, because I'm in still in the process of deciding what exactly to buy (which enclosure, what size HD to put in it/if I should buy one with a drive already in it) and I'm also considering going the CCC route (I have yet to use CCC for anything at this point) on the new external backup drive for bootability. So here's the questions (most important considerations: simplicity and cost effectiveness): ccc or super (du, forgot name) will work. 1. Is it preferable to buy an enclosure which already has the drive in it, or to buy an empty enclosure and put a HD in it? I ask because I notice the empty enclosures are so much more economical, and from my POV at least (i.e., making sure I buy the right kind of HD for it -- I find the choices overwhelming, and once I do figure out the right one, need to have my BF do the actual physical installations for me). Not to bad. Safer then the computer, no worries about slipping and breaking logic board, etc. 2. I know my G4 likes internal ATA HDs (that's what it has now, and that's what I ordered from the Swap List) -- is ATA, PATA, SATA, SATA-1, SATA-2, eSATA (whatever those extra SATAs are: I know, Google is my friend, and I do plan to ask him) a consideration for EXTERNAL HDS? I ask because one of the external enclosures that caught my eye -- an OWC Mercury Elite-AL Oxford 934 says it supports any capacity SATA-1 or SATA-2 HD: would my G4 recognize this even? This case takes SATA drives you need pata (ata, ide, etc) You would need a pci SATA controller card for the QS. But, for longevity and future hardware try for a case w/ SATA, eSATA, firewire, usb 2 (usb 1 compatabe) ports. 3. Can you use partitions on external HDs like you can with internal ones? One thing i'm considering, if it's possible -- the external drive should be a 500GB, logical - if $ permit If 500 gig external change my suggestions. split into two partitions of 250 GB, onto which I CCC Nucleus (10.4.9) on one partition, and CCC Nucleolus (10.3.2) to the other, so for the transfer of internal drives and future possible emergency. I'm thinking to do the external HD first, partition it, CCC existing contents of Nucleus and Nucleolus as described, then (once I'm sure a CCC backup works), wipe the little drives and replace with the big ones, onto which I CCC the stuff from the external to the new internals (partition one to Nucleus, partition two to Nucleolus). So is this possible with my G4, and if so, is it a good idea? Wow, you are smart! ;) See what you have learned from the lists? Go back and review archives for topics on backup, cloning, etc. Maybe you can find more tips on the process. (backup may also bring up power backup.) 4. Naturally, sticking with the familiar also tempts me. I saw an Iomega eGo Portable USB/Firewire which comes with a 250 GB drive already in it got my attention also, and I must say it's tempting to buy that (I had nothing but good experiences in the past with my Iomega Zip drives) and continue my backup system as simple external data storage. Is it bootable from usb? snip - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe
Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS 9 Booting in X Only G4 Macs, using firmware tweaks
On May 22, 2009, at 2:11 AM, MaGioZal wrote: The problem is that Classic emulation does not function with 10.5 or the intel Macs... Yes, but under 10.5 or Intel Macs (or PCs) you can use Sheepshaver to run OS 9 in emulation: http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/en/projects/sheepshaver --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iMac G3 500 or G4 Powermac 400?
At 2:57 AM -0300 5/22/09, MaGioZal posted: On 5/22/09 1:10 AM, Po-en Tsai at poen.t...@gmail.com wrote: I have a choice from my school for a iMac G3 Indigo Slot Load 500Mhz OR a G4 Powermac 400Mhz DVD free. Which one do you think is better, performance wise, and more reliable? And can you upgrade the graphics in the Powermac G4? Get the G4. Reasons: 3 PCI slots, CRT-free, easiness to get DVD-Drives. Ditto. Go with the G4. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bigger Internal HDs Bigger External Firewire/USB HD
Charles Lenington writes, first which model QS? If 2002 or 2002ed then no problems w/ large drives. But!! if first model then you will haveto partition or use third party software to set drive up. Look in archives for drive size limitations, and high text cap My QS is the 867. It took me a couple of days to find out (Googling) due to my present (hopefully temporary!) scatterbrained status, but yes, I do need to coax it into seeing HDs bigger than 128 GB. Either way if you don't need the 20 gig, replace w/ the 60 gig after cloning (60 gig) to 250 gig Put second 250 in place of 40 gig. You should have 2 empty hard drive bays - you could leave the 20 and 40 in the QS. If the bracket/cables are missing post a wtb over on LEM swap. Right now (and until The Surgery), I do need to have BOTH smaller HDs (60 and 20 BG) in the QS, because important stuff I use now resides on both. By the way is Memory Prime Firewire or usb? Memory Prime was originally BOTH Firewire and USB -- until the Firewire port on its enclosure (LaCie) died in December 2008. Since that time, I've been updating my backups via USB. In fact, I have a couple of important folders I just changed running over to it as updated backups now, as I write this. ccc or super (du, forgot name) will work. Super Duper is the other one. I ended up downloading CCC but haven't used it yet. 1. Is it preferable to buy an enclosure which already has the drive in it, or to buy an empty enclosure and put a HD in it? I ask because I notice the empty enclosures are so much more economical, and from my POV at least (i.e., making sure I buy the right kind of HD for it -- I find the choices overwhelming, and once I do figure out the right one, need to have my BF do the actual physical installations for me). Not to bad. Safer then the computer, no worries about slipping and breaking logic board, etc. About my confusion regarding whether to buy an empty external enclosure and have a drive put in it, and additional problem regarding what kind of drive I should buy for it, i.e., ATA, PATA, SATA, SATA-1,SATA-2, eSATA, you said, This case takes SATA drives you need pata (ata, ide, etc) You would need a pci SATA controller card for the QS. But, for longevity and future hardware try for a case w/ SATA, eSATA, firewire, usb 2 (usb 1 compatabe) ports. I ended up buying a 500GB OWC Mercury Elite 7200RPM external HD from OWC -- external FIrewire/USB case with 500 GB HD already in it, which comes with cables and a power supply (which, like the two 250 GB internal HDs, has arrived and is ready for me when I'm ready to hook it up. I also ordered an ACard PCI 6220 controller card from a guy on the Swap List -- still waiting for it to come in. Use of partitions on 500 GB external; yes, the salesman at oWC confirmed I could do this. :-) Wow, you are smart! ;) See what you have learned from the lists? LOL, ;-) I'm smart enough to have insisted on saving all the relevant information in my email archives and persisted with with migrating all my old emails to my new OS X native emailer when I switched a couple weeks ago, anyway. :-) Anyway, by now I HAVE decided to go the CCC route when I upgrade my HDs and backup system. The first part of the upgrade will consist of hooking up the new external HD first, formatting it to two partitions of 250 HB each, and backing up my old internal HDs to it with CCC. Then I'm going to test each partition and make sure they'll BOOT my QS as well as for my backups being accurate. When I'm sure of that -- and when my BF gets here to do the computer surgery (first weekend of June), that's when the controller card goes in (I expect it to artive early next week at this point) and the two new 250 GB internals go in. By that time I'll be have been using the new external as a backup drive. And then once I see the card has given me full access to the 250 GBs on the new internals, I'll CCC the stuff from the external backups over to the new internal drives. Theoretically, with the controller card, I should still be able to keep the 60 and 20 GB internal drives in the QS in the machine while their 250 GB replacements go in. That may be a good idea temporarily, at least until I see that the bigger replacements are working. Go back and review archives for topics on backup, cloning, etc. Maybe you can find more tips on the process. (backup may also bring up power backup.) I'll go General Googling on this actually. I don't remember my Googlegroups login or how to find any of the LEM list archives from their respective Google Groups because I participate entirely from email! LOL Is it bootable from usb? The Iomega? I don't know. I either never knew, or maybe I just don't remember, that ANY external HD would boot a Mac from USB, I always thought it HAD TO be Firewire to boot. I loved the Firewire on my external (when it worked, LOL!) because it was FAST to update my backups and move big amounts of data to the iBook
Re: Bigger Internal HDs Bigger External Firewire/USB HD
On May 22, 2009, at 3:07 AM, Charles Lenington wrote: first which model QS? If 2002 or 2002ed then no problems w/ large drives. But!! if first model then you will haveto partition or use third party software to set drive up. Look in archives for drive size limitations, and high text cap I think you mean hi cap kext. I only know of Intech's high capacity driver. I use it on my older AGP G4, and I've never had problems with it. Joe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iMac G3 500 or G4 Powermac 400?
On May 21, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Po-en Tsai wrote: Hello, I have a choice from my school for a iMac G3 Indigo Slot Load 500Mhz OR a G4 Powermac 400Mhz DVD free. Which one do you think is better, performance wise, and more reliable? And can you upgrade the graphics in the Powermac G4? Hands down the PowerMac. More RAM, easier to fix, more expandable. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iMac G3 500 or G4 Powermac 400?
I'd get the G4/400. I have a G4/400 Sawtooth (AGP Graphics) and it runs OSX 10.4.9 fine. I've also been able to upgrade it with a better ATI Radeon 8500 Mac Edition video card (see http://www.barefeats.com/sawgraf.html) so it is Quartz Extreme compatible. Also the fact that it has PCI slots means it's easy to expand, adding a USB 2.0 card or a second ATA controller for large-drive support, etc. -Jim G On May 21, 9:10 pm, Po-en Tsai poen.t...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have a choice from my school for a iMac G3 Indigo Slot Load 500Mhz OR a G4 Powermac 400Mhz DVD free. Which one do you think is better, performance wise, and more reliable? And can you upgrade the graphics in the Powermac G4? Thanks for all suggestions, Po-en --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Bigger Internal HDs Bigger External Firewire/USB HD
joe wrote: On May 22, 2009, at 3:07 AM, Charles Lenington wrote: first which model QS? If 2002 or 2002ed then no problems w/ large drives. But!! if first model then you will haveto partition or use third party software to set drive up. Look in archives for drive size limitations, and high text cap I think you mean hi cap kext. I only know of Intech's high capacity driver. I use it on my older AGP G4, and I've never had problems with it. Joe wow did I get that wrong. tks 4 the correction. charles --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
What could be causing the sound to cut out?
I've been facing an annoying problem that has been getting progressively worse, so I figured it would be time to get a second opinion because I'm drawing a blank. Background: I have a PowerMac G5, 2.0Ghz DP with 6GB of RAM. Video is supplied to two monitors with a stock AGP Radeon 9800 Pro with 128MB of VRAM and a flashed PCI Radeon 7000 with 64MB of VRAM. Problem: Whenever I am heavily multitasking, iTunes seems to randomly cut out whenever I am doing something on the screen powered by the 7000, but never the 9800's screen. I've tried using Songbird as well, but the problem seems to be systemic since all audio cuts out at this point, but will come back within a minute or two. I've been watching Activity monitor fairly closely, but haven't noticed any processor or RAM usage spikes that coincide with the loss of audio. In fact, the processors rarely crest a combined 110% and I almost always have at least 2GB of RAM free and untouched. I have a pair of nVidia GeForce 5200s (an AGP and a PCI, both with 256MB of VRAM) lying about that I could easily flash. Would installing those help? I somehow doubt it, but there might be something I don't know about this as a whole. Thanks in advance for any advice y'all can offer! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Proper Backup Procedure for Migration?
On May 21, 4:18 am, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: I made a complete bootable backup using Carbon Copy Cloner, then selected the Upgrade option on the Leopard install disk. That way I kept all my applications, extensions, preference panes, etc. intact in the new system installation. After all the updates I ran monolingual to remove languages and architectures, then ran TechTool Pro to optimize files and volume structures. The process took about 2 hours, it turns out I didn't need the CCC backup at all because everything worked but there's no way I'm skipping that step- it's the best insurance. On May 20, 4:49 pm, dualG4Wheels horne...@metrocast.net wrote: The MBP is running 10.4.11, and I maybe in a situation soon where I will need to put 10.5 on the machine dc I need some clarification on what you did. Was the Leopard install disk in your computer or some other external drive when you selected Upgrade? Did you use Upgrade to upgrade your backup or your computer? Where do you find monolingual to remove the languages and architectures? That would save some hard drive space! TechToolPro commercial version or supplied by Apple? Jane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What could be causing the sound to cut out?
On May 22, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Rory wrote: I have a pair of nVidia GeForce 5200s (an AGP and a PCI, both with 256MB of VRAM) lying about that I could easily flash. Would installing those help? I somehow doubt it, but there might be something I don't know about this as a whole. The Radeon 7000 doesn't support Core Image. I know when a non-Quartz Extreme video card is combined with a QE supported card the entire Mac loses QE function unless you use PCI Extreme to enable QE on the PCI card (which means you likely have no QE on either card?). Seems likely the Radeon 7000 could be a problem and perhaps you've lost all the Core support, including Core Audio? I believe the 5200 does support Core Image but if you're using the PCI version, you'd still need PCI Extreme to get QE working, and if you're using Leopard, I'm not sure PCI Extreme works? I know it works in 10.4.11. If the Radeon 7000 is causing Core Audio to not work, switching could be a solution to your issue? Let us know. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What could be causing the sound to cut out?
At 12:23 PM -0700 5/22/2009, Rory wrote: PowerMac G5, 2.0Ghz DP with 6GB of RAM. Video is supplied to two monitors with a stock AGP Radeon 9800 Pro with 128MB of VRAM and a flashed PCI Radeon 7000 with 64MB of VRAM. Whenever I am heavily multitasking, iTunes seems to randomly cut out whenever I am doing something on the screen powered by the 7000, but never the 9800's screen. I've tried using Songbird as well, but the problem seems to be systemic since all audio cuts out at this point, but will come back within a minute or two. What about Finder sounds, and other apps (IMs, etc), do they cut out? Try playing your music with QuickTime Player instead of iTunes. Does that make a diff? Is this on your built-in speakers or externals? Seems very strange to me that audio cutouts would be video-card related. Might be worth checking and cleaning the speaker connections etc. Maybe when your PM is huffing puffing, the fan vibration is causing things to move enough... Long shot, but do you have cats? My powermacs are succeptable to feline interference. Frieda grabs the speaker cable and pulls/licks until it comes loose... (this is an improvement; her first fav was the fireware cables!) - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Swapping one default app for another?
I just got BBEdit 9, I've been using TextWrangler, and I have a whole pile of document types (.txt, .pl, .css, etc etc) all set to open in TextWrangler. Rather than burro through my disk and find an example of each one to 'get info open with change all' on, is there any way to tell the system 'Every kind of file I now open with TextWrangler, I want it to open with BBEdit? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
My 750GB Seagate Disappeared ...
My QS 2002 Dual 1GHz under 10.5.7 just lost its ATA drive (an internal Seagate 750GB). It has the following configuration: AGP 1 ATI Radeon 9800 Pro PCI 3 M-Audio 2496 Audio card PCI 5 adaptec FW/USB2 Duoconnect NEC D720101GJ After being shutdown for awhile, I started up and got a KP, then restarted and all seemed ok. Was doing a CCC 3.2.1 from my Yikes! over the network to the QS ... Docs to /Volumes/Docs , was going ok, and it froze. Then on Restart, no ATA drive. Tried OS X Install DVD Disk Utility which showed no ATA. Removed the adaptec card, pushed cuda, still no ATA drive. I don't have anything like Disk Warrior. Would removing the drive, putting it in an external case, allow me better access? Any free Disk Utilities I could download onto my Yikes! and try to repair it in an external case? Ideas welcomed. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Proper Backup Procedure for Migration?
Hi there, I just did a successful Upgrade today. For my backup, I used Deja Vu and cloned the drive over the network. This probably took more time than if I had plugged the drive in direct, but it produced an usable clone just the same. Didn't need it, thankfully. For my installation, I used my OS X installer that I cloned to an external firewire hard drive. First I checked the MacBook drive using Disk Utility, than I upgraded - Upgrade was the default choice, so I figured what the heck. The entire installation process took about 40 minutes. The only tick I had was when I closed the Registration Assistant window instead of quitting it altogether - when I decided to quit it finally, it wouldn't quit and it was holding back the finder. Restarting cured this, and the laptop's been running fine - through numerous updating restarts and sleep cycles - ever since. Now, the latest and greatest version of Dictate should be in the mail tomorrow. YIPPEE! Just out of curiosity, has anybody tried installing OS X from an USB Flashdrive? Thanks a lot for all your help. Malzy On May 22, 3:38 pm, Jane, Portland, OR janespra...@comcast.net wrote: On May 21, 4:18 am, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: I made a complete bootable backup using Carbon Copy Cloner, then selected the Upgrade option on the Leopard install disk. That way I kept all my applications, extensions, preference panes, etc. intact in the new system installation. After all the updates I ran monolingual to remove languages and architectures, then ran TechTool Pro to optimize files and volume structures. The process took about 2 hours, it turns out I didn't need the CCC backup at all because everything worked but there's no way I'm skipping that step- it's the best insurance. On May 20, 4:49 pm, dualG4Wheels horne...@metrocast.net wrote: The MBP is running 10.4.11, and I maybe in a situation soon where I will need to put 10.5 on the machine dc I need some clarification on what you did. Was the Leopard install disk in your computer or some other external drive when you selected Upgrade? Did you use Upgrade to upgrade your backup or your computer? Where do you find monolingual to remove the languages and architectures? That would save some hard drive space! TechToolPro commercial version or supplied by Apple? Jane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: My 750GB Seagate Disappeared ...
On May 22, 2009, at 11:22 PM, insightinmind wrote: My QS 2002 Dual 1GHz under 10.5.7 just lost its ATA drive (an internal Seagate 750GB). ... Was doing a CCC 3.2.1 from my Yikes! over the network to the QS ... Docs to /Volumes/Docs , was going ok, and it froze. This may have corrupted the /Volumes/Docs directory or a part thereof. I modifed Ownership on my Source Docs and this may have caused issues on writing modified files to the Target. Then on Restart, no ATA drive. Tried OS X Install DVD Disk Utility which showed no ATA. Removed the adaptec card, pushed cuda, still no ATA drive. I don't have anything like Disk Warrior. Would removing the drive, putting it in an external case, allow me better access? Any free Disk Utilities I could download onto my Yikes! and try to repair it in an external case? Doing so, only the 1st 128GB showed up, and the Docs partition was dimmed. So I put it back into the QS, and used a different ATA cable connector plug (one closest to the drive's connection). The drive now showed up, and a Disk Utility Repair on Docs corrected the problem. Still got a KP on Startup ... now wondering if 10.5.7 has introduced something new. It listed PCIESlotCheck, and gave a list of kexts that had loaded: Interval Since Last Panic Report: 444 sec Panics Since Last Report: 1 Anonymous UUID:3AD09A54-2A5B-43B5-AC2B-D49280DC4024 Sat May 23 00:14:50 2009 Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 1): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x004F7740 PC=0x0031E360 Latest crash info for cpu 1: Exception state (sv=0x30202c80) PC=0x0031E360; MSR=0x9030; DAR=0x004F7740; DSISR=0x4000; LR=0x0031E334; R1=0x311B3B30; XCP=0x000C (0x300 - Data access) Backtrace: 0x0031E314 0x0031E5C4 0x0033C98C 0x00346750 0x00344DFC 0x0034511C 0x0037BB48 0x0008F7F4 0x0002C100 0x00024B58 0x000B45CC 0x Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x30202c80) previously dumped as Latest state. skipping... Exception state (sv=0x2fc62c80) PC=0x947701F8; MSR=0xF030; DAR=0xA0236F68; DSISR=0x4000; LR=0x94777120; R1=0xB5D0; XCP=0x0030 (0xC00 - System call) BSD process name corresponding to current thread: PCIESlotCheck Mac OS version: 9J61 Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 9.7.0: Tue Mar 31 22:54:29 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1228.12.14~1/RELEASE_PPC System model name: PowerMac3,5 System uptime in nanoseconds: 56855051939 unloaded kexts: (none) loaded kexts: com.midiman.driver.MAudioDeltaHT2.0.8 - last loaded 1385984149 com.midiman.driver.MAudioDelta 2.0.8 com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver 2.6.0 com.apple.filesystems.autofs2.0.2 com.apple.driver.DiskImages 199 com.apple.driver.AppleTexasAudio2.5.8f1 com.apple.driver.AppleTexas2Audio 2.5.8f1 com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver 1.0.6 com.apple.ATIRadeon9700 5.4.4 com.apple.driver.AppleThermal 1.0.1f2 com.apple.driver.AppleI2S 1.0.1f1 com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOpticalMouse 3.2.0 com.apple.driver.AppleSCCSerial 1.3.2 com.apple.iokit.AppleGMACEthernet 1.5.7f1 com.apple.driver.AppleDACAAudio 2.5.8f1 com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP1.7.7 com.apple.driver.AppleDallasDriver 2.5.8f1 com.apple.driver.InternalModemSupport 2.4.0 com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver 1.1.0 com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub 3.4.3 com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0 com.apple.driver.PioneerSuperDrive 2.0.7 com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient 2.0.9 com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 2.7.91 com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub3.4.0 com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient 3.3.1 com.apple.driver.ApplePMU 2.5.6d2 com.apple.iokit.IOATAPIProtocolTransport1.5.2 com.apple.iokit.IOATABlockStorage 2.0.5 com.apple.driver.AppleVIA 1.5.1d1 com.apple.iokit.AppleMediaBay 1.0.2f1 com.apple.driver.KeyLargoATA1.1.1f1 com.apple.driver.AppleMPIC 1.5.3 com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI3.8.2 com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI 3.3.5 com.apple.driver.AppleKeyLargo 1.7.2f1 com.apple.driver.AppleI2C 4.0.0d2 com.apple.driver.AppleMacRiscPCI3.4.0 com.apple.driver.AppleCore99NVRAM 1.1.1 com.apple.security.seatbelt 107.12 com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall 1.6.77 com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet 3 com.apple.BootCache 30.4 com.apple.driver.AppleMacRISC2PE1.8.7d5 com.apple.driver.ndrv.ATY,Apache.0x1a42cd38 1.0.1f89 com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport 1.7.3 com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily1.7.3 com.apple.driver.AudioI2SControl2.5.8f1 com.apple.driver.Apple02Audio 2.5.8f1 com.apple.driver.Apple02DBDMAAudio 2.5.8f1 com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily 1.6.9fc3 com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib1.1 com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily 1.6.1 com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily 9.4 com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver 3.2.2 com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite 3.2.0 com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMp Sent it off to Apple. My QS doesn't