Re: External HD noy showing up on Desktop

[jim]

Thanks for your reply...
The proper box is checked.
If I throw out the com.apple.Finder.plist (I'm guessing that's a
file?),
will the Finder rebuild it?
Jim

On May 28, 12:50 pm, Bruce Johnson 
wrote:
> On May 28, 2009, at 7:08 AM, jim wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hello,
> > Suddenly, after a couple power outages that shut my computer down, the
> > External HD doesn't show up on my desktop.
> > I have an old iMac G3 600 running OSX.
> > I went to Dick Utility and it is listed. When I click on the icon, no
> > commands highlight.
>
> Check your Finder Preferences, make sure that 'External Disks' is
> checked in the 'Show these items on the desktop' section.
>
> You may have to throw out your com.apple.Finder.plist.
>
> --
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Re: External HD noy showing up on Desktop

[jim]

To you, Po-en -
Thanks for your reply.
Yeah, the light does it's thing.
Then after awhile it stops.

To All -
Would anyone suggest an alternative utility?



On May 28, 3:38 pm, Po-en Tsai  wrote:
> I have an old imac g3 and after force shutdowns, the external drives
> take ages to initialize. (~10mins) so I would turn on the mac, and let
> the drives initialize. Does your external drive data transfering light
> turn on when u start up?
>
> Po-en
>
> On 5/29/09, dc  wrote:
>
>
>
> > ...heh heh heh
> > Try a different utility program.
> > Gosh, it was difficult to reply to this post without getting myself
> > reprimanded from the list mom...
>
> > On May 28, 10:08 am, jim  wrote:
> >> Suddenly, after a couple power outages that shut my computer down, the
> >> External HD doesn't show up on my desktop.
> >> I went to Dick Utility and it is listed. When I click on the icon, no
> >> commands highlight.

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Re: Source of info for OS X Security Issues

[tortoise]

On May 27, 9:01 pm, Paul  wrote:
> I posted this on the Tiger list, but got no response in several days,
> so I thought I'd post it here to see if people know about fixes and
> workarounds. There aren't many problems, but every once in a while, a
> security issue does pop up:
>
> http://milw0rm.com/platforms/osX


Don't use Safari, it has had serious security problems before. Use
Firefox, its the most secure browser available (or SeaMonkey or
Thunderbird, whatever).

Think about how many security (and other) updates Tiger has had in
Four years. Far too many.

As far as I'm concerned every Apple OS X.whatever is pre-release until
the next one comes out.
(or pretty close anyway).




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Re: Safari 4 bloat

[Kris Tilford]

On May 28, 2009, at 9:29 PM, tortoise wrote:

> Firefox is better anyway. you can set preferences to clear data on
> quit w/ confirmation.
> With any browser though, you should be able to limit the sizes of the
> caches, or even turn them off.

On my main computer (G5), Safari 4 has over 2.6 GB of webpage  
"preview" cache files (meaning, it's saving every single page viewed  
as long as there's room). This is wrong, let's hope it's a beta known  
issue they're going to repair?

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Re: Safari 4 bloat

[tortoise]

On May 27, 1:54 pm, Kris Tilford  wrote:
> I upgraded an old G3 iBook with too little HD free space to Safari 4
> about 3 weeks ago. I rarely use this iBook, so I was being careful,
> and making due with about 1 GB free space for Tiger 10.4.11. Yesterday
> things literally ground to a halt, and I immediately checked the HD
> free space. It was ZERO.
>
> I freaked, and did everything I could think of to trash items and only
> managed to clear 136 MB doing EVERYTHING I could think of. Then a saw
> these articles about Safari 4 bloat:
>
> 
>
> 
>
> It seems that Safari 4 filled my 1 GB free space in just a couple
> weeks, and I barely use this computer. I have uninstalled Safari 4 on
> this iBook and started to recover some space from these hidden caches,
> but this is a real shocker. I'm wishing I'd never installed Safari 4
> on this iBook.

Firefox is better anyway. you can set preferences to clear data on
quit w/ confirmation.
With any browser though, you should be able to limit the sizes of the
caches, or even turn them off.

Don't forget the VM (virtual memory) files though either, they are
used by the system. If you are low on RAM (less than 512MB for everday
use with Tiger), these files will take up a lot of space.
Look in /private/var/vm (if you can't see this you may have to use a
third party tool to turn hiding off or use the Terminal app). Also
slowing your computer down greatly.

Wearing out the hd both from overfilling and from lots of VM. The
former because less writing in contiguous blocks (like with lots small
browser cache files) - overworking the head movements.


A newer hd can also *greatly* improve performance of an old 'book.
Stock/ oem hard drives usually perform at much much less than the
rated capacity of the bus.  maybe four times faster w/ a recent hd.
Smaller ones are pretty cheap too, even new (the newer the better
mostly).

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Re: Dead G5 1.8

[Kris Tilford]

On May 28, 2009, at 8:45 PM, McGrude wrote:

> So I rebooted my 1.8Ghz G5 single powermac today and it now won't  
> boot.
>
> It will power up, the fans start, the hard drive spins up, but it
> never makes a chime and sits there.  The video on the monitor stays
> black.  If I leave it long enough the G5's fans kick in to full speed.
>
> I removed all usb devices other than the keyboard and mouse.  I
> removed all the PCI cards (two USB 5 port cards) but left the video
> card installed obviously.   No change.
>
> I replaced the 3.6v battery on the logic board.  No change.

These are the same symptoms my G5 had when it blew the power supply  
after less than 1 week of use new-from-box. I was able to diagnose  
this with a multi-meter and a pin-out diagram for the power. I lost  
about half my lines, I can't remember if it was the 3v, 5v or 12v  
primarily, but my fans ran, and the lights lighted; but like yours, no  
chime, no nothing.

Mine is a dual 2.3, and for this era G5 there was a "known issue" and  
an "extended warranty" (after a lawsuit). Mine was 1 week outside the  
extended warranty group, but I took it to an Apple Store Genius Bar  
that was packed after the grand opening near Christmas holiday  
shopping season, and I started to get a little noisy when they said  
they wouldn't warranty it, and they knuckled under and replaced the  
power supply, logicboard and both CPUs (this is their standard  
procedure) which would have cost nearly $900 at their prices, for  
free. Unfortunately, after the repair they forgot to calibrate the  
fans, so I had to return it again. I was without the G5 for 1 month,  
and it cost me over $100 in gas, parking, and tolls; plus about 10  
hours of my time to get the "free" repair.

If you need a power supply, they are expensive and relatively hard to  
find, might not be worth getting?


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Dead G5 1.8

[McGrude]

So I rebooted my 1.8Ghz G5 single powermac today and it now won't boot.

It will power up, the fans start, the hard drive spins up, but it
never makes a chime and sits there.  The video on the monitor stays
black.  If I leave it long enough the G5's fans kick in to full speed.

I removed all usb devices other than the keyboard and mouse.  I
removed all the PCI cards (two USB 5 port cards) but left the video
card installed obviously.   No change.

I replaced the 3.6v battery on the logic board.  No change.

Ideas?

Thanks!

 - Mike

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Re: UPS's

[Al Poulin]

On May 27, 5:48 pm, Kyle Hansen  wrote:

> I am a Nanny here at LEM.  We have some rules about posting.  Especially
> what is called top posting.  We ask that you post your responses AFTER the
> text you are answering.  This is called bottom posting and considered the
> polite internet standard. Naturally you should also trim out some of the non
> necessary information from the previous post as well. Here is a snippet of
> the rules that you read when you signed up for these lists:
>
> http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml

I was happy to read this, but I could find no mention of top or bottom
posting at the new netiquette statement "Netiquette for Email Lists."
And to the contrary, the "Email efficiency, part 5, 1999.11.03. The
best way to reply" referenced half way through favors top posting.

In spite of the convenience of top posting, the result for reading
through the threaded postings sometimes gets messy and impossible to
follow without referring back to previous content.

Al Poulin


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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[Len Gerstel]

On May 28, 2009, at 7:47 PM, smac0031 wrote:

>
> So If I am reading this correctly, 10.4.11 is as far as 10.4 goes. At
> Apple's site there are upgrades all the way up to 10.4.7 which are
> listed as combo, ppc, and intel. I've tried downloading various
> flavors of these and they won't work.

Here is the Apple link for the ppc 10.4.11 combo which will work to  
bring any version of 10.4 up to 10.4.11.

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosx10411comboupdateppc.html

And for those who do not care for tinyurl, here it is via another  
shortener:

http://www.socuteurl.com/popopuppysaur

There are some security updates, but no .12s, so run software update  
after installing 10.4.11.

Len


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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[J Beaver]

Also no stock digital audio meets the requirements to install leopard
directly from CD which is probably why it isnt letting you select your hard
drive. If you really want to attempt a install try using leopard assist
which will bypass the 867mhz processor check.


On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:59 PM, J Beaver  wrote:

> On my Digital Audio G4 with 733mhz and 1.25 GB RAM leopard ran
> significantly slower than Tiger did. My DA in leopard benchmarked at 25
> while in tiger i would get roughly around 34. User interface lag was
> noticeable when just opening folders and menus in leopard. While im sure
> leopard is fine for some PPC machines i would not recommend it on anything
> lower than 1ghz. Then again this has already been recommended. Just throwing
> my experience out there.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Baha Ata  wrote:
>
>> i can give you one reason... small reason Filezilla... the best ftp
>> program for me on windows and mac os simple and relieable... Free!
>>
>>  2009/5/29 Kris Tilford 
>>
>>>
>>> On May 28, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>> > And my experience running 10.5 on my 1Ghz Powerbook, doing what I do
>>> > with my computer, it's perfectly fine.
>>>
>>> It may be "fine", but what advantages does Leopard offer other than a
>>> buggy, unreliable backup (Time Machine), and . . . Spaces?
>>>
>>> I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play
>>> smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Baha Ata
>>
>>
>> >>
>>
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Re: DiskWarrior will not run after Applejack ran.

[Kris Tilford]

On May 28, 2009, at 7:11 PM, tonycd wrote:

> 3.0 is not trustworthy with OS X 10.4.11, but 3.0.3 is.

I agree totally. I've had systems trashed by old versions of DW, but  
the "correct" version almost never has problems unless the HD is bad  
(meaning physically bad).

One small exception here - with unsupported hackintosh PC-based Macs  
that have Master Boot Record partition scheme, Disk Warrior can screw  
up the HD so the bootloader needs to be reinstalled. Other than that,  
it works even on hackintosh.

Jonas was using OS 9 DiskWarrior on an OS X System. No, this won't  
work. Similarly, using old versions of Disk Utility isn't good either.


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Re: DiskWarrior will not run after Applejack ran.

[tonycd]

Which is why my original suggestion may have been germane to his
problem.

3.0 is not trustworthy with OS X 10.4.11, but 3.0.3 is.


On May 28, 3:46 pm, Bruce Johnson 
wrote:
> On May 28, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote:
>

>
> The solution is to by a modern version of Disk Earrior, which comes on
> a bootable CD.
>
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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[insightinmind]

On May 28, 2009, at 7:47 PM, smac0031 wrote:
>
>  and some other upgrades but now it tells me I have
> nothing to upgrade.
>
> I don't understand. How far does 10.4 go?


10.3 is Panther (10.3.9 top level)
10.4 is Tiger (10.4.11 top level)
10.5 is Leopard (10.5.7 current top level)

There was a Security Update for 10.4.11 recently, as well as a Safari  
and maybe iTunes, components of each OS X. But 10.4.11 was the last  
major system upgrade for 10.4. You cannot do a 10.4.6 upgrade to a  
10.4.11.

Bill Connelly
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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[Kris Tilford]

On May 28, 2009, at 6:47 PM, smac0031 wrote:

> So If I am reading this correctly, 10.4.11 is as far as 10.4 goes. At
> Apple's site there are upgrades all the way up to 10.4.7 which are
> listed as combo, ppc, and intel. I've tried downloading various
> flavors of these and they won't work.

You don't understand. The 10.4.11 isn't ten point four point one one,  
it's ten point four point ELEVEN. Eleven comes AFTER 10.4.7, 10.4.8,  
10.4.9, and 10.4.10. 10.4.11 was supposed to be the final 10.4 update,  
but that latest "Security Update" of 168 MB is close to being a  
10.4.12 without the moniker.

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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[J Beaver]

On my Digital Audio G4 with 733mhz and 1.25 GB RAM leopard ran significantly
slower than Tiger did. My DA in leopard benchmarked at 25 while in tiger i
would get roughly around 34. User interface lag was noticeable when just
opening folders and menus in leopard. While im sure leopard is fine for some
PPC machines i would not recommend it on anything lower than 1ghz. Then
again this has already been recommended. Just throwing my experience out
there.



On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Baha Ata  wrote:

> i can give you one reason... small reason Filezilla... the best ftp
> program for me on windows and mac os simple and relieable... Free!
>
>  2009/5/29 Kris Tilford 
>
>>
>> On May 28, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>>
>> > And my experience running 10.5 on my 1Ghz Powerbook, doing what I do
>> > with my computer, it's perfectly fine.
>>
>> It may be "fine", but what advantages does Leopard offer other than a
>> buggy, unreliable backup (Time Machine), and . . . Spaces?
>>
>> I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play
>> smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Baha Ata
>
>
> >
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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[smac0031]

So If I am reading this correctly, 10.4.11 is as far as 10.4 goes. At
Apple's site there are upgrades all the way up to 10.4.7 which are
listed as combo, ppc, and intel. I've tried downloading various
flavors of these and they won't work.

I do have a 1.6 ghz accellerator in this Digital Audio G4.

I used to run 10.3 and every so often I would get upgrades that
finally took my system to 10.3.9. Using system updater got a bunch of
security updates and some other upgrades but now it tells me I have
nothing to upgrade.

I don't understand. How far does 10.4 go?

On May 28, 7:06 am, "m.smurph001"  wrote:
> I just got broadband back and I have been attempting to upgrade from  
> 10.4.11. So far none of the system updates will run. I have a Digital  
> Audio G4. I get to the select volume screen and none of my volumes is  
> selectable.
>
> Mark Murphy
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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[Mullin9]

On May 28, 4:06 am, "m.smurph001"  wrote:
> I just got broadband back and I have been attempting to upgrade from  
> 10.4.11. So far none of the system updates will run. I have a Digital  
> Audio G4. I get to the select volume screen and none of my volumes is  
> selectable.
>
> Mark Murphy

Just install 10.4.11 again, even that 10.4.11 get/got upgraded since
it's release in Nov 14 2007
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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[Baha Ata]

i can give you one reason... small reason Filezilla... the best ftp
program for me on windows and mac os simple and relieable... Free!

2009/5/29 Kris Tilford 

>
> On May 28, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
> > And my experience running 10.5 on my 1Ghz Powerbook, doing what I do
> > with my computer, it's perfectly fine.
>
> It may be "fine", but what advantages does Leopard offer other than a
> buggy, unreliable backup (Time Machine), and . . . Spaces?
>
> I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play
> smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard.
>
>
> >
>


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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[Baha Ata]

you giving 500 Mb ram benchmarks... i said 1 GB ram minimal... i can agree
with you if 500 MB ram if i have... i mean 1 GB ram and above is a must with
at least Nvdia 5200 64 Mb and more (i do not test it above i cannot give
gurantee) But with this sepcs all productivity software will run like
tiger...

2009/5/29 Baha Ata 

> totally agree with bruce... if you have desktop eaven i recçommend if you
> need consider graphic card and ram upgrade... it will give you a good
> machine and it jill be on time.
>
> 2009/5/29 Bruce Johnson 
>
>
>>
>> On May 28, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play
>> > smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard.
>>
>> DVD's and Youtubes play perfectly fine on my 1GHZ DVI Powerbook.
>>
>> Don't know what you mean 'full resolution video'; do you mean 1080p
>> HD? If so, I really doubt it.
>>
>> But aagin, as I said, it depends on what you're doing with it. Web
>> browsing, writing, iPhoto and suchlike on the road, and I'm very happy
>> with having a working Spotlight, Spaces and suchlike.
>>
>> For you, it's not worth it, for me it's just fine, as well as very
>> handy to have all my systems at the same OS level.
>>
>> This is why I recommend against blanket pronouncements like yours that
>> 'Never run 10.5 on a PPC machine!' because it just doesn't hold water.
>>
>> --
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>> University of Arizona
>> College of Pharmacy
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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[Baha Ata]

totally agree with bruce... if you have desktop eaven i recçommend if you
need consider graphic card and ram upgrade... it will give you a good
machine and it jill be on time.

2009/5/29 Bruce Johnson 

>
>
> On May 28, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
>
> >
> > I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play
> > smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard.
>
> DVD's and Youtubes play perfectly fine on my 1GHZ DVI Powerbook.
>
> Don't know what you mean 'full resolution video'; do you mean 1080p
> HD? If so, I really doubt it.
>
> But aagin, as I said, it depends on what you're doing with it. Web
> browsing, writing, iPhoto and suchlike on the road, and I'm very happy
> with having a working Spotlight, Spaces and suchlike.
>
> For you, it's not worth it, for me it's just fine, as well as very
> handy to have all my systems at the same OS level.
>
> This is why I recommend against blanket pronouncements like yours that
> 'Never run 10.5 on a PPC machine!' because it just doesn't hold water.
>
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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[Baha Ata]

there is no machine 1.58 Ghz mini.. is it overclocked and in hot condition?
is it fnished indexing?

2009/5/29 Kris Tilford 

>
> On May 28, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
> > And my experience running 10.5 on my 1Ghz Powerbook, doing what I do
> > with my computer, it's perfectly fine.
>
> It may be "fine", but what advantages does Leopard offer other than a
> buggy, unreliable backup (Time Machine), and . . . Spaces?
>
> I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play
> smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard.
>
>
> >
>


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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[Baha Ata]

simply... stop...
anybody have faster than 1 Ghz cpu and over 1 GB ram.. clean install
leopard, if large discs let it open and active 2 days... it will be workable
and good. you do not use G4 for editining commercial movies so benchmarks?
forget it. all productive programs other than office (even in tiger ofiice
is slow) work as tiger... If your graphic card is good... certainly leopard
is ok.

2009/5/29 Kris Tilford 

>
> On May 28, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
> > And my experience running 10.5 on my 1Ghz Powerbook, doing what I do
> > with my computer, it's perfectly fine.
>
> It may be "fine", but what advantages does Leopard offer other than a
> buggy, unreliable backup (Time Machine), and . . . Spaces?
>
> I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play
> smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard.
>
>
> >
>


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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 28, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

>
> I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play
> smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard.

DVD's and Youtubes play perfectly fine on my 1GHZ DVI Powerbook.

Don't know what you mean 'full resolution video'; do you mean 1080p  
HD? If so, I really doubt it.

But aagin, as I said, it depends on what you're doing with it. Web  
browsing, writing, iPhoto and suchlike on the road, and I'm very happy  
with having a working Spotlight, Spaces and suchlike.

For you, it's not worth it, for me it's just fine, as well as very  
handy to have all my systems at the same OS level.

This is why I recommend against blanket pronouncements like yours that  
'Never run 10.5 on a PPC machine!' because it just doesn't hold water.

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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[Kris Tilford]

On May 28, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> And my experience running 10.5 on my 1Ghz Powerbook, doing what I do
> with my computer, it's perfectly fine.

It may be "fine", but what advantages does Leopard offer other than a  
buggy, unreliable backup (Time Machine), and . . . Spaces?

I bet you can't play video smoothly? Full resolution video won't play  
smooth on my 1.58 GHz Mini under Leopard.


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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 28, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

>
> 
>
> This is over 16% faster for Tiger than Leopard!
>
> Across all models, PPC Macs are at least 20% faster using Tiger over
> Leopard.
>
> GeekBench scores are similar to Xbench, so they confirm each other's
> validity.

And my experience running 10.5 on my 1Ghz Powerbook, doing what I do  
with my computer, it's perfectly fine.

Benchmarks should only ever be guidelines, not hard and fast rules.

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Re: DiskWarrior will not run after Applejack ran.

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 28, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote:

>
> It has ran for several years with no problems.
>
> Select OS9 on the 10.4 disk and start up in nine. Run DW ON THE  
> OS9+10.2.8 partition. Works just fine.
>
> When done, change to OS9+10.2 as the start up.
>
> Run DW from OS9 on the OS9+10.4 disk.

You are extremely lucky. Running an OS 9 directory repair program cam  
completely screw up an OS X volume.

>
> This has worked for some 5 years, BUT IT IS only in the last few  
> months, after I experimented and ran Applejack did the problem arise  
> with 2156 and 2180.


The solution is to by a modern version of Disk Earrior, which comes on  
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Re: UPS's

[diane]

At 12:37 PM -0700 5/28/09, w_tom wrote:
>
>   'Dirty' electricity is why APC and others recommend not putting a
>power strip protector on that UPS output.   They would rather not
>admit why - only say to not do it. Best power strip is one for about
>$4 with a necessary 15 amp circuit breaker and no protector
>components.


Someone on another list mentioned these: 
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-SurgeCube-Surge-Protector-1-Outlet/dp/B6BBAB/ref=pd_bxgy_e_text_b

Any experience with them or similar?

Thanks,

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Re: UPS's

[diane]

At 3:53 PM -0400 5/28/09, Anne Keller-Smith wrote:
>Weell ...
>
>You can buy one of those long, long orange cords and plug things into 
>another outlet in another room.
>
>Been there, done that.


LOL, or make the network cable hole through the wall a little bigger 
and steal the power that way (then I won't trip over it in the middle 
of the night)

Diane

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Re: External HD noy showing up on Desktop

[Po-en Tsai]

I have an old imac g3 and after force shutdowns, the external drives
take ages to initialize. (~10mins) so I would turn on the mac, and let
the drives initialize. Does your external drive data transfering light
turn on when u start up?

Po-en

On 5/29/09, dc  wrote:
>
> ...heh heh heh
> Try a different utility program.
> Gosh, it was difficult to reply to this post without getting myself
> reprimanded from the list mom...
>
> On May 28, 10:08 am, jim  wrote:
>> Suddenly, after a couple power outages that shut my computer down, the
>> External HD doesn't show up on my desktop.
>> I went to Dick Utility and it is listed. When I click on the icon, no
>> commands highlight.
> >
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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[Kris Tilford]

On May 28, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Baha Ata wrote:

> No slowing down, if exist it will be %4

This is wrong! It averages over 20%.

> I am using 10.5 with Powerbook 1.33


On your specific model, the PowerBook 1.33 GHz, the highest Xbench 1.3  
score of all time was 50.28 for a PowerBook 1.33 GHz running 10.4.11:



The highest score for a 1.33 GHz running any version of 10.5 Leopard  
is 43.33:



This is over 16% faster for Tiger than Leopard!

Across all models, PPC Macs are at least 20% faster using Tiger over  
Leopard.

GeekBench scores are similar to Xbench, so they confirm each other's  
validity.


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Re: UPS's

[Anne Keller-Smith]

Weell ...

You can buy one of those long, long orange cords and plug things into  
another outlet in another room.

Been there, done that.

On May 27, 2009, at 9:31 AM, diane wrote:

>
> Hey, one other huge question, will the UPS work in a non-grounded
> outlet? I moved my office to the only bedroom that has not had
> electrical work done on it, and I'm not sure when my electrician can
> get in here, may not be till the fall.
>
> I plugged my Back-UPS Office in and it complained about a line fault,
> the APC site said that could be due to a non-grounded plug. It didn't
> give the same lights in the other two rooms. Other than that, it
> doesn't work (battery is dead) so I can't really test it.
>
> If that is the case I should probably just wait till the electrical  
> gets done.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Diane
>
> >
>


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Re: UPS's

[w_tom]

On May 27, 11:19 am, Doug McNutt  wrote:
> w_tommust be using the 200V figure to represent the peak to peak voltage
> of the square wave. That's the difference between minus 100 volts and plus
> 100 volts with respect to the common wire and is what one would measure
> with an oscilloscope.
>
> The 120 volt value is called an RMS, for root mean square, ...

  120 VAC appears as a sine wave peaking at 170 volts.  Typical
computer grade UPS outputs 120 VAC by adjusting the width of a 200
volt square wave.  Whereas this UPS output is not destructive to more
robust computers, this same voltage can be harmful to small motors and
power strip protectors.  To make a UPS cheaply, 'dirty' electricity
such as 200 volt square waves and spikes up to 270 volts is acceptable
- because it is not destructive to computers.  However this same
‘surge’ might be harmful to other electrical devices and is one (of
many) reason for no laser printer on that output.

  ‘Dirty’ electricity is why APC and others recommend not putting a
power strip protector on that UPS output.   They would rather not
admit why – only say to not do it. Best power strip is one for about
$4 with a necessary 15 amp circuit breaker and no protector
components.

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Re: MDD Drive Carrier

[dc]

Look at this picture:
http://homepage.mac.com/rstephens/.Public/GigaMDD.jpg
Follow the yellow ATA cable to the additional drives in the lower
front part of the case. There is a carrier, if yours is issing you
could probably find one on the LEM swap list.

On May 25, 6:27 am, Mac G4  wrote:
> I have G4 MDD 867 dual...with two hard drives in the rear carrier.  I  
> have heard that two more can fit in the front.  I don't see anyway to  
> secure them.  Am I missing the front carrier?  Maybe someone could  
> take some pictures to show me how it should look and if I need to  
> look for the front drive carrier on ebay or something.
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Re: DiskWarrior will not run after Applejack ran.

[Jonas Lopez]

> From: Bruce Johnson 
> Subject: Re: DiskWarrior will not run after Applejack ran.
> To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
> Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 9:47 AM
> 
> 
> On May 27, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:
> 
> >
> > In answer to your question:
> >
> > Since DiskWarrior runs only in OS 9,
> 
> BZZZ!!!
> 
> You're using the wrong version of Diskwarrior, then.
> Diskwarrior for OS X runs in OS X.
> Bruce Johnson

I do not have the version for X:

The use of DW on a disk with 2 partitions, each of which is OS9+10.2.8 and the 
other one is OS9+10.4.11 is not a problem.

It has ran for several years with no problems.

Select OS9 on the 10.4 disk and start up in nine. Run DW ON THE OS9+10.2.8 
partition. Works just fine.

When done, change to OS9+10.2 as the start up.

Run DW from OS9 on the OS9+10.4 disk.

Works just fine.

As you know, DW requires that it be ran from the non-startup disk and that the 
DW must reside on it. This is the reason for several copies of DW, since the 
one you select MUST NOT be on the startup disk.

This has worked for some 5 years, BUT IT IS only in the last few months, after 
I experimented and ran Applejack did the problem arise with 2156 and 2180.

JML.


  

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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[dc]

I have Leopard on a DP 533 MHz digital audio G4 and it's not so bad.
After installing, running system updates, installing apps and
utilities I ran Monolingual to get rid of all unneeded languages and
also the G3 & Intel architechtures; that trimmed over 2 GB off Leopard
and it runs pretty well.

On May 28, 10:56 am, artemis  wrote:
> . . . but don't bother spending the money!
>
> On your PPC machine it'll just sloow everything down by 20% or
> more.
>
> 10.5 is optimised for Intel Macs and will make yours run like treacle.
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Re: External HD noy showing up on Desktop

[dc]

...heh heh heh
Try a different utility program.
Gosh, it was difficult to reply to this post without getting myself
reprimanded from the list mom...

On May 28, 10:08 am, jim  wrote:
> Suddenly, after a couple power outages that shut my computer down, the
> External HD doesn't show up on my desktop.
> I went to Dick Utility and it is listed. When I click on the icon, no
> commands highlight.
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Re: External HD noy showing up on Desktop

[insightinmind]

On May 28, 2009, at 10:08 AM, jim wrote:

>
> Hello,
> Suddenly, after a couple power outages that shut my computer down, the
> External HD doesn't show up on my desktop.
> I have an old iMac G3 600 running OSX.
> I went to Dick Utility and it is listed. When I click on the icon, no
> commands highlight.
> I have verified and repaired my start up disk.
> Any ideas?
> Thanks
> Jim


Search for a procedure to rekindle an external FW drive. I believe  
there's one on Apple's site. Other members here know what I'm  
referring to ... just don't have full focus to search for it ... good  
luck.

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Re: External HD noy showing up on Desktop

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 28, 2009, at 7:08 AM, jim wrote:

>
> Hello,
> Suddenly, after a couple power outages that shut my computer down, the
> External HD doesn't show up on my desktop.
> I have an old iMac G3 600 running OSX.
> I went to Dick Utility and it is listed. When I click on the icon, no
> commands highlight.

Check your Finder Preferences, make sure that 'External Disks' is  
checked in the 'Show these items on the desktop' section.

You may have to throw out your com.apple.Finder.plist.

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Re: DiskWarrior will not run after Applejack ran.

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 27, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:

>
> In answer to your question:
>
> Since DiskWarrior runs only in OS 9,

BZZZ!!!

You're using the wrong version of Diskwarrior, then. Diskwarrior for  
OS X runs in OS X.

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Re: Source of info for OS X Security Issues

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 27, 2009, at 9:13 PM, Stephen Weber wrote:

> Well here's what McAfee had to say about this website
> http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/milw0rm.com?ref=safe&client_ver=FF_28.0_6275&locale=en-US&premium=false&client_type=FF&aff_id=0
> They gave it a yellow rating, just be care full  well on this site  
> guys!
>

That's because McAfee has their heads up their asses, and they're  
either trying to perpetuate 'security through obscurity' or their  
automated tools are looking at source code and saying it's the malware.

Anyone dealing with computer security issues knows milw0rm...its one  
of the top 10 'sites to know' if you're dealing with this stuff.

I'd like to see what they called Metasploit... :-)

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Re: Source of info for OS X Security Issues

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 27, 2009, at 9:01 PM, Paul wrote:

> so I thought I'd post it here to see if people know about fixes and
> workarounds. There aren't many problems, but every once in a while, a
> security issue does pop up:
>
> http://milw0rm.com/platforms/osX


The Safari Java issue is dealt with by going into prefs and turning  
off Java. You can turn it back on for sites you trust.

The xnu issue is a local privilege escalation attack, and if you don't  
let the bad guys on your computer in the first place, you're covered.

It's also probable this was fixed in 10.5.7. Tiger had a security  
patch at that time too.

This is the result of trying to run it on my system:

"Apple MACOS X xnu <= 1228.x local kernel root exploit
by: 
http://www.digit-labs.org/ -- Digit-Labs 20...@$!

./xnu-hfs-fcntl-v2: unsupported xnu version found "

More importantly, look at that list:

Remote exploits: 11 in 6 years, local exploits about 40 in the same  
time frame.

NOt a lot of activity, for all we've been being told "Well the hackers  
are gearing up to take OS X" for years now.

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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[Baha Ata]

optimised is not "bold" world for 10.5
anything faster than 1000 Mhz or dual cpu above 800 Mhz can handle this 10.5

No slowing down, if exist it will be %4

If possible just add rams... If possible change video card higher it will be
same with 10.4, especially on dual cpu machines.

I am using 10.5 with Powerbook 1.33

It is slow 4200 rpm drive... All productivity task (iwork 09) and internet,
and divx are fast... Finder is fast... Be aware,after upgrade indexing makes
huge load... Try clean install and let it go with indexing after. It will
getting normal usage in 1 day.

2009/5/28 artemis 

>
> . . . but don't bother spending the money!
>
> On your PPC machine it'll just sloow everything down by 20% or
> more.
>
> 10.5 is optimised for Intel Macs and will make yours run like treacle.
> >
>


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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[artemis]

. . . but don't bother spending the money!

On your PPC machine it'll just sloow everything down by 20% or
more.

10.5 is optimised for Intel Macs and will make yours run like treacle.
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External HD noy showing up on Desktop

[jim]

Hello,
Suddenly, after a couple power outages that shut my computer down, the
External HD doesn't show up on my desktop.
I have an old iMac G3 600 running OSX.
I went to Dick Utility and it is listed. When I click on the icon, no
commands highlight.
I have verified and repaired my start up disk.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Jim

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Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[Christopher Icha]

10.4.11 is as far as you can go without shelling out for 10.5


On May 28, 2009, at 12:06 pm, m.smurph001 wrote:

>
> I just got broadband back and I have been attempting to upgrade from
> 10.4.11. So far none of the system updates will run. I have a Digital
> Audio G4. I get to the select volume screen and none of my volumes is
> selectable.
>
> Mark Murphy
>
> >

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Updating Max OS X 10.4.11

[m.smurph001]

I just got broadband back and I have been attempting to upgrade from  
10.4.11. So far none of the system updates will run. I have a Digital  
Audio G4. I get to the select volume screen and none of my volumes is  
selectable.

Mark Murphy

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