Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
I have ALMOST the same problem with a G4 17 Powerbook. During the course of a trip out of town, the sound quit working. I had flown (rather than drive) and my computer in its Targus bag was with me the whole time. I checked everything I knew to check, which showed that I DID have sound and everything should have been working. My destination happened to have an Apple store, so I took it in. They checked everything I had checked and came to the same conclusion. The fix would have been to leave it there for repair but I could not afford it. I did post this last December to the G4 group but there were no suggestions. Does anyone here have an idea? I wish I knew what I was doing to open it up but the most I've ever done is change out memory cards. Thanks, Claire --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
Where is this reset button? I remember having to push the reset button when I changed the PRAM battery on my G3 iMac (man, but getting inside that baby was a chore and a half)., but I have no idea where it would be. Also, where would this voltage regulator card be? At this point, I'm ready to try anything rather than have to trash a machine that's otherwise in good working order. On Jun 27, 8:13 pm, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: On 6/27/09 7:34 PM, insightinmind of billycarm...@verizon.net sent (snip) Yes, to all of the above re: Bill's suggestion; also, there is a reset button on the beige G3 motherboard (iirc) that should be pushed. The most helpful thing to do is to reseat the personality card (i.e. The audio card), as I learned when our music lab was populated by these units. I can remember one time in particular that none of this worked for one of our still-under-warranty G3/233 desktops; the Apple technician on the phone had me yank and reseat the voltage regulator card, then zap the PRAM - that did the trick; that was the only (and most extreme HTH, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
On Jun 27, 6:34 pm, insightinmind billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Jun 27, 2009, at 1:33 PM, leighkimmel wrote: Recently the PRAM battery on my faithful old G3/233 desktop died. When I put in a new battery and started it up, I suddenly had no sound. No startup chime, no system alerts, no music from CD, nothing. When I go into the Monitors Sound control panel, it shows a blank for sound output, as if it doesn't even know it has the capacity to handle sound. Does anybody have any experience with beige G3's losing their sound when the PRAM battery is changed? I'd really like to be able to play CD's on it while I'm working -- I can listen to Internet radio on the G4 laptop (the machine I'm using to type this), but it tends to get hot if run for too long. Is the PRAM battery in the right direction? I'm confident it is -- I was careful to note the direction of the battery when I did the swap, and it does hold settings when I unplug the machine. Did you also do cmd-opt-P-R ? Yep, that was another thing my brother suggested. Forgot to mention it (it's hard to remember to recite every single step you've already taken to avoid having people suggest it when you've already done it). All of this resets audio preferences I think ... but I only have experience with Mac Plus, a Performa, PM8500/9500, Yikes!, DA, QS 2002 ... nothing in between ... Bill Connelly artsite:http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace:http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
On Jun 28, 2009, at 10:40 AM, leighkimmel wrote: Where is this reset button? I remember having to push the reset button when I changed the PRAM battery on my G3 iMac (man, but getting inside that baby was a chore and a half)., but I have no idea where it would be. Also, where would this voltage regulator card be? At this point, I'm ready to try anything rather than have to trash a machine that's otherwise in good working order. macgurus.com has mobo layouts showing where things are. Here's links for the Beige G3 Desktop and Minitower: http://www.macgurus.com/products/motherboards/mbppcg3desk.php http://www.macgurus.com/products/motherboards/mbppcg3mini.php Hope this helps some. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Any replacement keyboards
On Jun 27, 11:11 am, t...@io.com t...@io.com wrote: Al Poulin wrote: On Jun 25, 9:56 am, Stephen E. Bodnar sbod...@gci.net wrote: But wait, under the Products tab, see their new Matias Tactile Pro 2.0 keyboard. They even have models for $595. I don't know where you got $595. On their Tactile Pro page they list the Black/Silver model for $149.95. The white model is discontinued. Okay, I did not say the $595 models were under the Products tab. But look at their home page, about half way down. There are three models at that price. http://matias.ca/products/index.php Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
GarageBand is in pieces on the garage floor
Hi. I just upgraded my son's Smurf from 10.3 to 10.4.9. His GarageBand 2.0.2 got broken in the transition. It still boots up the program, but gives a message that the Loops (housed in a folder within Library) are missing. I have another machine with the same version of GarageBand, so I transplanted the Loops folder. All of GarageBand's other visible parts were present and accounted for. However, his Mac still gives the message that the Loops are missing. I understand that Unix-based programs, unlike Classic ones, have invisible files that are essential, so I'm not really shocked that this didn't work. But I still want it to. I have 2.0.2 as part of a set of 10.3 install CDs, and I have Pacifist. But for some reason, his burner won't spin up Install Disk #1. I'd think maybe it was because it refuses to downgrade, but my Quicksilver with Tiger will spin them. I also have GarageBand 4.1 (system requirement: 10.4.9) on a set of Leopard install DVDs, but his internal burner reads only CDs. I feel like I have all the parts, but am lacking some sort of ingenuity to solve this. Thoughts? Thanks, Tony PS: Recently I double- and triple-posted a couple of replies to my own thread. This was accidental (I didn't realize I was re-posting when I hit Refresh to view updates to the page), and I apologize for the annoying results. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Beige G3/233 now mute
leighkimmel wrote: Where is this reset button? I remember having to push the reset button when I changed the PRAM battery on my G3 iMac (man, but getting inside that baby was a chore and a half)., but I have no idea where it would be. Also, where would this voltage regulator card be? At this point, I'm ready to try anything rather than have to trash a machine that's otherwise in good working order. On Jun 27, 8:13 pm, Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: Try this site for some of your needs. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=50019 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: GarageBand is in pieces on the garage floor
On Jun 28, 2009, at 12:29 PM, tonycd wrote: Hi. I just upgraded my son's Smurf from 10.3 to 10.4.9. His GarageBand 2.0.2 got broken in the transition. It still boots up the program, but gives a message that the Loops (housed in a folder within Library) are missing. I have another machine with the same version of GarageBand, so I transplanted the Loops folder. All of GarageBand's other visible parts were present and accounted for. However, his Mac still gives the message that the Loops are missing. I understand that Unix-based programs, unlike Classic ones, have invisible files that are essential, so I'm not really shocked that this didn't work. But I still want it to. I have 2.0.2 as part of a set of 10.3 install CDs, and I have Pacifist. But for some reason, his burner won't spin up Install Disk #1. I'd think maybe it was because it refuses to downgrade, but my Quicksilver with Tiger will spin them. I also have GarageBand 4.1 (system requirement: 10.4.9) on a set of Leopard install DVDs, but his internal burner reads only CDs. When you use Pacifist, you don't Startup from the Install disk you're going to extract something from, do you? Curious why the machine doesn't load the CD ... I feel like I have all the parts, but am lacking some sort of ingenuity to solve this. Thoughts? Did Apple move the parts between Panther and Tiger? or change the structure of Garageband some other way? Does Panther Garageband level work under Tiger? I think Apple's site has a Forum specific to Garageband, if you don't get a response hear. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
800 MHz Sonnet G4 Zif
Recently acquired a Sonnet 800 MHz ZIF upgrade for a G3 BW. I need some install/user guide type info. Searching Google and the Sonnet support was not helpful. Does anyone have a link to a user guide or could someone sent a .pdf -- provided Sonnet ever provided one. I do have a white jumper block that came with the upgrade and I know Sonnet has firmware upgrades are available on their web site. The Apple G4 enabler is installed, so do I also need the Sonnet firmware as well? I suppose I could just plug it in and see what happens , but would like to RTFM if I can find one before it do that :) --glen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: GarageBand is in pieces on the garage floor
Thanks for the excellent suggestions, Kris. Unfortunately, it appears I'm too dim to enact any of them. Lacking even an iPod or flash drive, what I tried was to transfer the files via my external FireWire backup hard drive. The problem I had was that I can't figure out how to use Pacifist to transfer a package in installable form, as a package. The only choices it seemingly gives me are 1) to install the program in the same machine that has the CD/ DVD drive, or 2) to extract the files into a set of folders that are collected in one folder, but don't work as an installable program. Pacifist also seems unable to separate a single .mpkg, only to extract or install it. Absurd as it sounds, the only option I could figure was to copy the ENTIRE install DVDs into my backup drive as disk images, in the hope that the receiving machine's Pacifist could install them. I spent all the time to copy them, then for the recipient Smurf to read them, only to find that Pacifist wouldn't install them on the recipient machine -- it would only deposit them as an extracted set of folders. Which is useless. I think I'm screwed. Or more accurately, my son is. Sigh. On Jun 28, 2:00 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: As I said, surely you can improvise a solution here. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: GarageBand is in pieces on the garage floor
On Jun 28, 2009, at 8:08 PM, tonycd wrote: Thanks for the excellent suggestions, Kris. Unfortunately, it appears I'm too dim to enact any of them. Lacking even an iPod or flash drive, what I tried was to transfer the files via my external FireWire backup hard drive. The problem I had was that I can't figure out how to use Pacifist to transfer a package in installable form, as a package. The only choices it seemingly gives me are 1) to install the program in the same machine that has the CD/ DVD drive, or 2) to extract the files into a set of folders that are collected in one folder, but don't work as an installable program. Pacifist also seems unable to separate a single .mpkg, only to extract or install it. Absurd as it sounds, the only option I could figure was to copy the ENTIRE install DVDs into my backup drive as disk images, in the hope that the receiving machine's Pacifist could install them. I spent all the time to copy them, then for the recipient Smurf to read them, only to find that Pacifist wouldn't install them on the recipient machine -- it would only deposit them as an extracted set of folders. Which is useless. I think I'm screwed. Or more accurately, my son is. Sigh. Maybe you need a CD set for Tiger like an eMac 16CD one. I am looking at mine and I see Garageband with Pacifist. If I can help in some way ... e-mail me offlist. Don't want to sell it, but maybe there's some way I can help with the part you're looking for w/o violating layman's copyright laws? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: GarageBand is in pieces on the garage floor
On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:29 AM, tonycd wrote: Hi. I just upgraded my son's Smurf from 10.3 to 10.4.9. His GarageBand 2.0.2 got broken in the transition. It still boots up the program, but gives a message that the Loops (housed in a folder within Library) are missing. Did you do an Archive and Install? Then the Garage band stuff from /Library is in the /Previous Systems folder on the Smurf. Just move it back. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 800 MHz Sonnet G4 Zif
On Jun 28, 2009, at 3:40 PM, glen wrote: Recently acquired a Sonnet 800 MHz ZIF upgrade for a G3 BW. I need some install/user guide type info. Searching Google and the Sonnet support was not helpful. OWC Computing has some good info online about ZIF upgrading in their support stuff. http://www.macsales.com -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Digital Camera
On 6/25/09, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: I think this is a System error or a Disk Utility error, but that's not the Vendor Device ID # that is shown in System Profiler USB. How about looking in System Profiler under USB while this camera is attached and get these ID #'s. I could possibly help, but I think this is probably not going to work with Macintosh, after all, it appears these barely work with Windows. If I read it correctly it says Product ID: 551 ($227) -- Steve Conrad Henrietta, MO 64036 The time has come for mankind to grow up and leave its cradle behind; to go forth and claim our place in outer space. - Capt. Henry Gloval (\__/) (='.'=) ()_() Help Bunny Take Over The World! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---