Re: Listers take Notice ==Important notice: GeoCities is closing

[Bill Christensen]

At 10:19 AM -0700 7/10/09, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>On Jul 9, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Stephen Weber wrote:
>
>>  Paul, it depends if they cached them or not, I know some they do and 
>>  some
>>  they don't.
>>
>
>If you have a robots.txt files in your web site blocking web crawlers,
>The Internet Archive will not archive the pages in that directory.
>

Right.  Or if you have a site that nobody links to.   Then they're 
far less likely to find it.

I don't know if the usual search engine rules apply to archive.org - 
preference to sites which are not full of coding errors, have meta 
tags and robots.txt files (non-blocking is fine, just as long as you 
have one), more incoming links, etc.

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Re: PowerMac G3 wont boot after Tiger effort

[Ernest L. Gunerius]

>
>
>On Jul 10, 2009, at 8:30 PM, Po-en Tsai wrote:
>
>>  On 11/07/2009, at 12:16 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>>
>>>  Yank the pram battery. Press the CUDA switch. Wait 15 minutes, re-
>>>  insert PRAM battery, press cuda switch again, boot.
>  >
>  > In the quoted post, Bruce says to press the CUDA button twice 
>>  between a boot. According to the Apple Help Documents, it mentions 
>>  clearly that you must ONLY press the CUDA button ONCE between boot up.
>>
>>  Maybe I am wrong?
>>
>  > Apple's advice on resetting CUDA: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1939
>
>I think it depends on how long you wait between pushes ... too quick 
>and electronic mobo things can get mangled ... probably requiring a
>battery out ... wait ... then replace ...

Apple's advice does not remove the Battery. In which case pressing 
the CUDA will slightly discharge the Battery progressively more each 
time the CUDA is pressed. Therefore they say one press to avoid 
wasting the Battery.

I don't have the original post. Did Bruce also say to first 
disconnect the wall power? Bruce also says first remove the Battery 
in which case only the capacitors are discharged.

Capacitors have "memory" so that even if shorted they can return to 
an apparently slightly charged state.

When the Battery is reinstalled the prom might come up in an unknown 
state so Another CUDA Press is needed to ensure proper reset.

ErnieG

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Re: PowerMac G3 wont boot after Tiger effort

[Bill Connelly]

On Jul 10, 2009, at 8:30 PM, Po-en Tsai wrote:

> On 11/07/2009, at 12:16 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
>> Yank the pram battery. Press the CUDA switch. Wait 15 minutes, re-
>> insert PRAM battery, press cuda switch again, boot.
>
> In the quoted post, Bruce says to press the CUDA button twice  
> between a boot. According to the Apple Help Documents, it mentions  
> clearly that you must ONLY press the CUDA button ONCE between boot up.
>
> Maybe I am wrong?
>
> Apple's advice on resetting CUDA: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1939

I think it depends on how long you wait between pushes ... too quick  
and electronic mobo things can get mangled ... probably requiring a  
battery out ... wait ... then replace ...

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Re: PowerMac G3 wont boot after Tiger effort

[Po-en Tsai]

On 11/07/2009, at 12:16 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> Yank the pram battery. Press the CUDA switch. Wait 15 minutes, re-
> insert PRAM battery, press cuda switch again, boot.

In the quoted post, Bruce says to press the CUDA button twice between  
a boot. According to the Apple Help Documents, it mentions clearly  
that you must ONLY press the CUDA button ONCE between boot up.

Maybe I am wrong?

Apple's advice on resetting CUDA: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1939

Thanks,
Po-en Tsai

-- iMac G3 Indigo 350 MHz, running OSX 10.4, 10.3 and OS 9.2.2, 80gb  
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Re: PowerMac G3 wont boot after Tiger effort

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jul 10, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Nick Burman wrote:

> I tried wiping the hard drive (from another machine, in an external
> enclosure) but the thing still won't startup. Holding down the C key
> gets me the happy mac icon, then it restarts. Then it loops restarting
> endlessly.
>
> I tried reseting nvram (reset-nvram) and restarting with Cmd Opt P-R.
> but I get the same results.

Yank the pram battery. Press the CUDA switch. Wait 15 minutes, re- 
insert PRAM battery, press cuda switch again, boot.

That was the routine when I tried it on mine. It worked. I ended up  
sticking with 10.2 on it, never could get it to work  with 10.3 or 10.4.

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PowerMac G3 wont boot after Tiger effort

[Nick Burman]

I tried installing Tiger on a Beige (yes it's beige) PowerMac G3. After
the install failed, and I got a pile of error messages on the screen, I
realised it wasn't worth the effort and now want to install Jaguar on it
again.

I tried wiping the hard drive (from another machine, in an external
enclosure) but the thing still won't startup. Holding down the C key
gets me the happy mac icon, then it restarts. Then it loops restarting
endlessly.

I tried reseting nvram (reset-nvram) and restarting with Cmd Opt P-R.
but I get the same results.

Anyone know how to make this Mac startup from a CDROM so I can install
Jaguar?

~Nick

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Re: agp graphics vs. gigabit ethernet

[John Martz]

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:
> The Netgear cg814gcmr has 10/100 Mbit/s hardwire ethernet capability,
> but only 54 Mbit/s wireless. Are you using wireless networking? You
> could get 100Mbs using hardwired networking off your onboard ethernet
> connection, if you're connected via a ethernet network wire.

54 Mbps and 100 Mbps are optimistic "marketing" numbers. Granted with
wired ethernet you may get within "shouting distance" of the spec max.
With wireless that's a LOT less likely to happen. See "Rule #1: It
never goes as fast as they say it does" (link below).
www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/24861/228/1/1/

All of which is not really that relevant if you are talking about
LAN-to-Internet throughput. As (I think) Bruce pointed out, even the
typical real-world throughput for 802.11g is often sufficient to cover
the 7 or 8 Mbps (or *less*) downstream which is what you're likely to
get from a cable modem ISP.

Unless something is seriously wrong with a local network, it is
unlikely to be the bottleneck for Internet transfers. Easiest way to
rule it out is probably to do some file transfers on the local network
and see what sort of throughput you get.

If you're wondering what the bottleneck might be on LAN-to-LAN
transfers, then a reasonably good ... perhaps dumbed down & tedious
for some ... look at possible bottlenecks is covered in the Tom's
article "Gigabit Ethernet: Dude, Where's My Bandwidth?" (link below).
www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gigabit-ethernet-bandwidth,2321.html

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Re: Listers take Notice ==Important notice: GeoCities is closing

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jul 9, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Stephen Weber wrote:

> Paul, it depends if they cached them or not, I know some they do and  
> some
> they don't.
>

If you have a robots.txt files in your web site blocking web crawlers,  
The Internet Archive will not archive the pages in that directory.

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Re: agp graphics vs. gigabit ethernet

[Bill Connelly]

On Jul 10, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Ricardo Sevilla wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What is the basic Apple model for this upgraded G4?  Internal bus
>> speed is a consideration.  Also, for an assessment, please advise  
>> what
>> type of internet connection you have, dial-up, DSL, or cable?  And if
>> possible, what is the rated through put of the connection?  What is
>> the modem?  Are you using ethernet or the much slower Wi-Fi?  One or
>> more of these factors could be your choke point.  What do you see for
>> an Internet speed test?
>> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/
>> http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
>>
>> Al Poulin
>>>
>>
>>
> OK I think thats a lot for me to respond to but I will try.
> The basic apple model is the 500 mhz g4 sawtooth. I believe the  
> internal
> bus speed is the 100 mhz model. I am using cable internet. I dont
> understand what the rated through put is. I am not using a modem. If  
> you
> meant the router it is a Netgear cg814gcmr. I am using the ethernet
> connection. And as for using the internet speed test, How do I do it?


You simply link to one of the above  (I use www.speakeasy.net) in your  
browser, and just run the test from the browser window.

> I
> am heading to work right now so I will not be able to return to my
> computer until late tonight. thank you for the help that was already
> given to me and I hope we can figure out this problem. thank you

The Netgear cg814gcmr has 10/100 Mbit/s hardwire ethernet capability,  
but only 54 Mbit/s wireless. Are you using wireless networking? You  
could get 100Mbs using hardwired networking off your onboard ethernet  
connection, if you're connected via a ethernet network wire.

Its possible that your link speed is at a max (100) and that its your  
browser/display speed that needs improvement. Many folks have slow  
display problems due to sites use Flashplayer (I believe thats the  
one). Sucks up cpu energy, and slows down overall performance ... but  
with your 1.2GHz cpu upgrade ... I don't know. Maybe a better agp  
video card would help. I have a GeForce4 MX in my setup ... there are  
better ones that have PC versions that can be flashed. Another  
thread ... according to MacTracker, you have a 2x agp slot ...

Your RAM is max'ed out.

If you're running Leopard ... you could downgrade to Tiger, and see a  
significant overall computer performance increase ... possibly 10-15%.  
I run Xbench 1.3 as a measure of overall hardware performance (it  
seems to test everything: cpu, video, harddrive throughputs, etc). On  
my Digital Audio Dual 533, I see a score of around 35 under Tiger  
10.4.11, and around 30 for Leopard 10.5.7. (14% !). I'm choosing to  
run Leopard just the same.

I just added a Firmtek's SeriTek 1S2 SATA PCI card and a Seagate  
7200.12 1TB (with 32MB buffer). I sense smoother operation, but don't  
notice much Xbench 1.3 improvement ... about 1 point. It is  
significantly faster than my 500GB Seagate I had running off my aged  
Sonnet Trio ATA133/FW400/USB1.1 PCI card (to override the LBA48 or  
128GB harddrive limitation of the Digital Audio). Adding the SATA also  
opened me up to the cheaper SATA drives. I feel apps are opening  
quicker ... data is saved/retrieved to/from disk smoother. DVD Player  
functionality might be better too 

If you wanted to get Gigabit ethernet speeds, you could add a  
relatively inexpensive Rosewill 10/100/1000 PCI ethernet card (or  
other brand), but you would also need to have/get a Gigabit speed  
cable Modem/Router (I have DSL and 10/100 modem/router as my internet  
connection ... don't know about your cable modems). I connect at 100  
Mbit/s as shown by the Network Utility (found in your > Applications >  
Utilities folder) after selecting Network Interface (en0) for onboard  
ethernet. With speakeasy > speedtest, I see, being Serviced by San  
Franscisco, Download/Upload Speeds of 734/128 on the average.

Apologies ... a bit more than my 2 cents worth ...


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Re: agp graphics vs. gigabit ethernet

[Bruce Johnson]

On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Ricardo Sevilla wrote:

> OK I think thats a lot for me to respond to but I will try.
> The basic apple model is the 500 mhz g4 sawtooth. I believe the  
> internal
> bus speed is the 100 mhz model. I am using cable internet. I dont
> understand what the rated through put is.

With cable internet companies generally offer different tiers of  
service: 1.5 megabits/second, 7 megabits/second, up to 20 megabits/ 
second.

If you're paying for the very cheapest, you likely have 1.5 megabits,  
which is pretty slow. In any case 'internet speed' is generally  
governed by your connection, with the exception of video. With a 1.2  
Ghz cpu this system shouldn't be too slow on video.

The only upgrade that makes sense is to get a better video card, that  
will speed things up in general a lot, and I'll bet this is what  
you're seeing.

I have a similar model, with a 1GHZ cpu upgrade, and moving from the  
original AGP to a Radeon 9000 made things a lot faster.

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Re: agp graphics vs. gigabit ethernet

[Ricardo Sevilla]

Al Poulin wrote:
> On Jul 9, 10:35 pm, Ricardo Sevilla  wrote:
>   
>> Hello all. I have a owc 1.2 ghz g4 with 2gigs of ram and a 500 gig hdd.
>> My internet is nowhere near as fast as I think it should be and the
>> computer itself is pretty slow for my tastes. I have the original video
>> card in it as well. Is there anything I can do to this machine to make
>> it faster? I dont want to upgrade to a newer computer just yet. I would
>> like to make this g4 snappier and to my liking and after I accomplish
>> this I will consider upgrading to a g5 or maybe even an older/newer
>> iMac. any help/advice/suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>> 
>
> What is the basic Apple model for this upgraded G4?  Internal bus
> speed is a consideration.  Also, for an assessment, please advise what
> type of internet connection you have, dial-up, DSL, or cable?  And if
> possible, what is the rated through put of the connection?  What is
> the modem?  Are you using ethernet or the much slower Wi-Fi?  One or
> more of these factors could be your choke point.  What do you see for
> an Internet speed test?
> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/
> http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
>
> Al Poulin
> >
>
>   
OK I think thats a lot for me to respond to but I will try.
The basic apple model is the 500 mhz g4 sawtooth. I believe the internal 
bus speed is the 100 mhz model. I am using cable internet. I dont 
understand what the rated through put is. I am not using a modem. If you 
meant the router it is a Netgear cg814gcmr. I am using the ethernet 
connection. And as for using the internet speed test, How do I do it? I 
am heading to work right now so I will not be able to return to my 
computer until late tonight. thank you for the help that was already 
given to me and I hope we can figure out this problem. thank you

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Re: agp graphics vs. gigabit ethernet

[Al Poulin]

On Jul 9, 10:35 pm, Ricardo Sevilla  wrote:
> Hello all. I have a owc 1.2 ghz g4 with 2gigs of ram and a 500 gig hdd.
> My internet is nowhere near as fast as I think it should be and the
> computer itself is pretty slow for my tastes. I have the original video
> card in it as well. Is there anything I can do to this machine to make
> it faster? I dont want to upgrade to a newer computer just yet. I would
> like to make this g4 snappier and to my liking and after I accomplish
> this I will consider upgrading to a g5 or maybe even an older/newer
> iMac. any help/advice/suggestions would be greatly appreciated

What is the basic Apple model for this upgraded G4?  Internal bus
speed is a consideration.  Also, for an assessment, please advise what
type of internet connection you have, dial-up, DSL, or cable?  And if
possible, what is the rated through put of the connection?  What is
the modem?  Are you using ethernet or the much slower Wi-Fi?  One or
more of these factors could be your choke point.  What do you see for
an Internet speed test?
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtests/
http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

Al Poulin
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Re: PowerMac G4 MDD Won;t boot

[Bill Connelly]

On Jul 10, 2009, at 3:45 AM, Geoff Black wrote:

> Had this one b4. Mine was due to PSU unable to sustain the 12v/5v  
> supply. Startup is the most demanding on the psu on startup..

Makes sense.

> I used the power supply from that supplied the other drive bay and  
> voila.
> Try the drive in bay 1/2 opposite of what its in now . If not try  
> booting from dvd to c if the boot rom is naickered.
> Cheers g

What language is this?


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Re: VideoLan has finally reached version 1.0.0

[Geoff Black]

Thanx guys, My paybax have never been smoother and sharper.  
Brilliant. NEC was impressed.
Geoff b
On 10 Jul 2009, at 5:29 AM, iJohn wrote:

>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:17 PM, tortoise wrote:
>> In this case I am not sure what the strategy means. It could mean the
>> end of ppc support, it could mean that the project as a whole is
>> considered complete and the team is breaking up, in which case  
>> someone
>> may do minor updates or take it over and/or big changes in the  
>> program
>> will ensue shortly.
>
> Well, the following is a brief excerpt from the web site:
>
> "The VideoLAN project is pleased to announce the release of the first
> version of the Goldeneye branch of VLC: 1.0.0.
> This major release introduces many new features, new formats and new
> codecs to the VLC multimedia framework and fixes a very high number of
> bugs that were present in the 0.9.x or 0.8.6 versions."
>
> I haven't noticed yet what the differences are from the 0.9 releases,
> but I trust that they are there.
>
> As for what platform it runs on ... my primary use of VLC has been on
> Windows. I only started using it on OS X a few months ago when I got a
> MacBook.
>
> -irrational john
>
> >


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Re: PowerMac G4 MDD Won;t boot

[Geoff Black]

Had this one b4. Mine was due to PSU unable to sustain the 12v/5v  
supply. Startup is the most demanding on the psu on startup.. I used  
the power supply from that supplied the other drive bay and voila.
Try the drive in bay 1/2 opposite of what its in now . If not try  
booting from dvd to c if the boot rom is naickered.
Cheers g
On 10 Jul 2009, at 4:43 AM, Chance Reecher wrote:

> the hard drive is good. Any idea what's happening here?


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Re: [G3-5]Safari 4.0.2 is available

[MaGioZal]

On 7/10/09 2:07 AM, Dan at  wrote:

> The reboot failed
> on 13 out of 18 Macs


I just let the installator shut down my computer. Next day, next boot, and
everything was fine.
 




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