Re: What OCR for Leopard?

[Bill Connelly]

On Aug 27, 2009, at 5:00 PM, J.M.P.Hissel wrote:

>
> On 27-08-2009 16:24, Bruce Johnson, john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu,  
> wrote:
>
>> Good, yes, but decidedly TMI.  Also redaction need to be 100% to be
>> effective :-)
>
> Sorry Bruce, what does TMI stand for in this case? I'll ask because in
>  I couldn't find your meaning  
> for
> sure.
>
> Jo Hissel

It probably means "Too Much Information".

Apologies, if I offended anyone with my example of Acrobat 6 Pro  
OCRing w.r.t. my Mom's Retirement Community.

Curious what was meant by "redaction" ...

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Re: OSX10.4 on G3

[Clark Martin]

J.M.P.Hissel wrote:
> On 28-08-2009 00:23, Clark Martin, cm...@sonic.net, wrote:
> 
>> Well, he's clearly booting from the disk via Firewire.  But that's okay
>> since an iMac CAN boot from Firewire.  It's G3 B&W towers that cannot
>> boot from Firewire nor use Target Disk mode.
> 
> Sorry Clark but I have to disagree with something. I found out that this has
> something to do with where your B&W is produced. The in Ireland (we mostly
> find in Europe) produced B&W's (at least the 400 and 450 MHz models I know)
> will problemlyless start in TDM.
>

WHAT?


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Re: Replacing power supply G4 MMD

[Bill Christensen]

At 11:22 AM -0700 8/27/09, mkehoe wrote:
>I've been told that the power supply probably needs replacing in my G4
>MMD.  Symptoms are: often, when trying to start up, nothing happens,
>and I have to press the re-set button inside the computer.  I have
>been just putting the computer to sleep to avoid this.
>Question:  How hard is it to replace the power supply?  Is it just
>taking out the drives, and unscrewing and screwing things in, or does
>it require soldering?

If it restarts fine from the internal switch and not the front 
switch, it may be something as simple as a problem with the switch 
itself.


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Re: MacFixIt free on September 2nd

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Kris Tilford  wrote:

>
> It's good news MacFixIt is going to be free starting Sept. 2nd, but in
> my experience MacFixIt is simply a conglomerator of reports without
> effective editing by someone who understands the issues or the
> problems. Much of the information is not very good, or worse, not the
> solution it claims to be, and a waste of time to perform. Still,
> having MacFixIt as a searchable archive will surely  be helpful if you
> remember to treat MacFixIt advice skeptically, and think before
> acting. As a pay site, MacFixIt was too low quality to be worthwhile
> in my opinion. Now that it's going to be free, the price seems right
> in comparison to the quality.
>
>
Or at last the price matches the quality.

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Re: OSX10.4 on G3

[J.M.P.Hissel]

On 28-08-2009 00:23, Clark Martin, cm...@sonic.net, wrote:

> Well, he's clearly booting from the disk via Firewire.  But that's okay
> since an iMac CAN boot from Firewire.  It's G3 B&W towers that cannot
> boot from Firewire nor use Target Disk mode.

Sorry Clark but I have to disagree with something. I found out that this has
something to do with where your B&W is produced. The in Ireland (we mostly
find in Europe) produced B&W's (at least the 400 and 450 MHz models I know)
will problemlyless start in TDM.

Jo Hissel



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Re: G4 Question

[Stephen Conrad]

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Dan wrote:
>
> At 8:24 PM -0500 8/26/2009, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>>
>>OK, but if thats not my problem then what freezes up my machine when I
>>leave it un-used?
>
> sigh.  You mention that you get the SPOD - typically a temporary
> condition, while the app waits for the resource to become available,
> and you asked about Dashboard.  But nowhere in the thread did you
> mention your Mac was actually freezing to the point you had to
> restart it or that it did this while otherwise idle.
>
>>I have to restart it just to use it.
>>It did this today and all I had pulled up was the desktop, nothing else.
>>I did a check of both HDs earlier and they were fine. But just now it
>>said USS Akira (120 GB HD that is formated as Mac OS Extended
>>(Journaled) and has 111.5 GB free.
>>Could this be what is freezing my G4 (the problem with my 2nd HD)?
>
> A bad HD, especially the boot volume could certainly cause the apps
> or even the system to hang as threads stall out waiting for data
> from the drive
>
> ...Note that we usually reserve the word "freeze" to mean that the
> mouse cursor does not move, and the system is totally unresponsive
> otherwise, even to keyboard activity, even after re-connecting the
> keyboard and mouse.

Whelp, the Sony VAIO rinitron monitor died last night but I hope the 4
USB ports still work on it (will check later).
I am now using an NEC CromaClear monitor.
However, I also ran Disk Utility and see that the HD that came with
this G4 (gotten from the LEM Swap List) is reporting a Fatal Hardware
Error.
I have backed it up with CCC and hope that works.



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Re: OSX10.4 on G3

[Dan]

At 2:11 PM -0700 8/27/2009, ronaldo wrote:
>Hi...  I have a G3 blue Smurf upgraded to a 400 Mhz G4 chip... ran
>Tiger just fine with 512 MB RAM...  even better with 768 MB...
>But I've been advised by a knowledgeable person (on this very list)
>that G3s can (sadly!) NEVER boot from, or use FireWire, in Target Disk
>mode (or any other?) due to their internal motherboard architecture.
>Wouldn't this be the real reason for Steve's G3 'no-go' situation?

Steve is on an iMac, not a Smurf.

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Re: OSX10.4 on G3

[Dan]

At 2:11 PM -0700 8/27/2009, ronaldo wrote:
>
>been advised by a knowledgeable person (on this very list) that G3s 
>can (sadly!) NEVER boot from, or use FireWire, in Target Disk mode 
>(or any other?) due to their internal motherboard architecture.

A bit of a clarification ...

This issue is regarding the Power Mac G3 Blue & White, aka 
SmurfTower.  It does NOT pertain to iMacs (which is what a 
slot-loader, the subject of this thread, be).

The problem on the Smurf is not the motherboard's "architecture". 
The fault is in Apple's firmware.  It simply doesn't support target 
disk mode or directly booting via firewire.

Remember how you had to hack the Smurf's firmware to get it to boot 
on a G4, because Apple had disabled that?

Well, there is a (slightly different type of) hack called XPostFacto 
that can be used to enable firewire booting on a Smurf, by using a 
"helper" drive.  (I've seen this done, so I know it works, but I've 
never done it myself, even tho I use a Smurf daily).



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MacFixIt free on September 2nd

[Kris Tilford]

It's good news MacFixIt is going to be free starting Sept. 2nd, but in  
my experience MacFixIt is simply a conglomerator of reports without  
effective editing by someone who understands the issues or the  
problems. Much of the information is not very good, or worse, not the  
solution it claims to be, and a waste of time to perform. Still,  
having MacFixIt as a searchable archive will surely  be helpful if you  
remember to treat MacFixIt advice skeptically, and think before  
acting. As a pay site, MacFixIt was too low quality to be worthwhile  
in my opinion. Now that it's going to be free, the price seems right  
in comparison to the quality.

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Re: What OCR for Leopard?

[J.M.P.Hissel]

On 27-08-2009 16:24, Bruce Johnson, john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu, wrote:

> Good, yes, but decidedly TMI.  Also redaction need to be 100% to be
> effective :-)

Sorry Bruce, what does TMI stand for in this case? I'll ask because in
 I couldn't find your meaning for
sure.

Jo Hissel





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Re: OSX10.4 on G3

[J.M.P.Hissel]

On 27-08-2009 23:11, ronaldo, waltg...@magma.ca, wrote:

> But I've been advised by a knowledgeable person (on this very list)
> that G3s can (sadly!) NEVER boot from, or use FireWire, in Target Disk
> mode (or any other?) due to their internal motherboard architecture.
> Wouldn't this be the real reason for Steve's G3 'no-go' situation?

Well I'm very curious to hear who this "knowledgeable person (on this very
list)" may be! I strongly believe you are misunderstanding something!
Tell you something: Last week 2 of my grandsons asked me to upgrade their
Macs to 10.4.11. The older one (10) has an iBook, Dual USB (= G3, 500 MHz)
and the younger one (7) has an iMac "Kiva" (= G3, 500 MHz). Both have FW400.
And both only have a CD-RW opt. drive. But both started up in TDM and in
this case connected to my "Repair-and solve problems-Mac" (a Sawtooth 400).
I could install 10.4.11 on both Macs without any troubles.

Just FYI and HTH,

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Re: OSX10.4 on G3

[Clark Martin]

ronaldo wrote:
> Hi...  I have a G3 blue Smurf upgraded to a 400 Mhz G4 chip... ran
> Tiger just fine with 512 MB RAM...  even better with 768 MB...
> But I've been advised by a knowledgeable person (on this very list)
> that G3s can (sadly!) NEVER boot from, or use FireWire, in Target Disk
> mode (or any other?) due to their internal motherboard architecture.
> Wouldn't this be the real reason for Steve's G3 'no-go' situation?


Well, he's clearly booting from the disk via Firewire.  But that's okay 
since an iMac CAN boot from Firewire.  It's G3 B&W towers that cannot 
boot from Firewire nor use Target Disk mode.

> 
> Ronaldo
> 
> On Aug 25, 5:34 pm, steveoa  wrote:
>> Hi, I'm trying to load 10.4 onto my G3 slot loader- 400Hz, 512 ram,
>> 63Gb spare on HD, using an external DVD via Firewire- all seems well
>> with this.  It runs ok till the "Install" section then just sits there
>> with the spinning coloured disk. I've got 10.3 on it at present and
>> I'm using the Easy Install option, any suggestions?



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Re: OSX10.4 on G3

[ronaldo]

Hi...  I have a G3 blue Smurf upgraded to a 400 Mhz G4 chip... ran
Tiger just fine with 512 MB RAM...  even better with 768 MB...
But I've been advised by a knowledgeable person (on this very list)
that G3s can (sadly!) NEVER boot from, or use FireWire, in Target Disk
mode (or any other?) due to their internal motherboard architecture.
Wouldn't this be the real reason for Steve's G3 'no-go' situation?

Ronaldo

On Aug 25, 5:34 pm, steveoa  wrote:
> Hi, I'm trying to load 10.4 onto my G3 slot loader- 400Hz, 512 ram,
> 63Gb spare on HD, using an external DVD via Firewire- all seems well
> with this.  It runs ok till the "Install" section then just sits there
> with the spinning coloured disk. I've got 10.3 on it at present and
> I'm using the Easy Install option, any suggestions?
>
> Thanks Steve
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Re: Replacing power supply G4 MMD

[Dan]

At 11:22 AM -0700 8/27/2009, mkehoe wrote:
>I've been told that the power supply probably needs replacing in my G4
>MMD.  Symptoms are: often, when trying to start up, nothing happens,
>and I have to press the re-set button inside the computer.  I have
>been just putting the computer to sleep to avoid this.

Have you tried replacing the pram battery?

>How hard is it to replace the power supply?  Is it just
>taking out the drives, and unscrewing and screwing things in, or does
>it require soldering?

It's fairly easy.  No soldering.

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Re: Replacing power supply G4 MMD

[Sam Macomber]

just taking parts out.  takes a little time to snake the wires out and  
put the new ones back in. Straight forward replacement though...

A thought on the MDD power supplies though, I had a second one fail  
Monday.   Only two so far,  but both were the last model MDDs made  
(the 2003 single 1.25GHz non-FW800 ones) and both failed with in a  
month of each other...Think the PS in those were cheaper than the  
earlier ones of which we have several (a pair of dual 1.25GHz and a  
dual 867MHz)   none of the early machines power supplies have failed  
at this point.

-sam
(after the boss comes back from vacation you may see a late model  
1.25GHz MDD G4 for sale...  just needs a PS hehe)

>
> I've been told that the power supply probably needs replacing in my G4
> MMD.  Symptoms are: often, when trying to start up, nothing happens,
> and I have to press the re-set button inside the computer.  I have
> been just putting the computer to sleep to avoid this.
> Question:  How hard is it to replace the power supply?  Is it just
> taking out the drives, and unscrewing and screwing things in, or does
> it require soldering?
>
> Mira
> >
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Replacing power supply G4 MMD

[mkehoe]

I've been told that the power supply probably needs replacing in my G4
MMD.  Symptoms are: often, when trying to start up, nothing happens,
and I have to press the re-set button inside the computer.  I have
been just putting the computer to sleep to avoid this.
Question:  How hard is it to replace the power supply?  Is it just
taking out the drives, and unscrewing and screwing things in, or does
it require soldering?

Mira
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Re: G4 Question

[Dan]

At 8:24 PM -0500 8/26/2009, Stephen Conrad wrote:
>
>OK, but if thats not my problem then what freezes up my machine when I
>leave it un-used?

sigh.  You mention that you get the SPOD - typically a temporary 
condition, while the app waits for the resource to become available, 
and you asked about Dashboard.  But nowhere in the thread did you 
mention your Mac was actually freezing to the point you had to 
restart it or that it did this while otherwise idle.

>I have to restart it just to use it.
>It did this today and all I had pulled up was the desktop, nothing else.
>I did a check of both HDs earlier and they were fine. But just now it
>said USS Akira (120 GB HD that is formated as Mac OS Extended
>(Journaled) and has 111.5 GB free.
>Could this be what is freezing my G4 (the problem with my 2nd HD)?

A bad HD, especially the boot volume could certainly cause the apps 
or even the system to hang as threads stall out waiting for data 
from the drive

...Note that we usually reserve the word "freeze" to mean that the 
mouse cursor does not move, and the system is totally unresponsive 
otherwise, even to keyboard activity, even after re-connecting the 
keyboard and mouse.

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Re: Sonnet Encore upgrade for desktop beige G3

[Gorka L Martinez Mezo]

I put the G3 back in place for the install, then
> installed the G4 enabler from Sonnet, and put the G4 back in the system.
> It ran well for another year or so before I traded the system to someone
> who needed a fast desktop that could run OS9 for some software he
> already had.  So, I would recommend putting the G3 back in place for the
> OSX install, if this is possible.

So I would need the G4 enabler software from Sonnet in order for the G4 to 
work??

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Re: Sonnet Encore upgrade for desktop beige G3

[Gorka L Martinez Mezo]

> I had a similar set-up that worked fine for years.  The directions
> that you list above are correct.  IFRC, you have to take a look at
> the Beige's current processorthere were issues with some of them
> that interfered with the installation of the Sonnet card.  Do you see
> that in your instruction manual?  If you are planning on installing
> OS X, be sure that the Sonnet is installed first.

I have read the full manual (available from Sonnet) and the only problem 
they mention is the Royal VRM which, fortunately, doesn`t seems to be case.

No plans for OS X right know! If I can get the G4 running it can be a 
possibility

Looks like I will need the G4 enable files.

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Re: Online Subscription Management for Google Groups

[Stephen E. Bodnar]

Bruce Johnson wrote:
> 
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote:
> 
>> Interesting. I don't have a Google login. I was grandfathered in from
>> the old non-Google list. This may be another reason that the  
>> unsubscribe
>> may not work. I'm not ready to quit yet though!
> 
> 
> You do have a google login. You may not know the password, but you do  
> have a Google account, since that's how you were 'grandfathered in'.
> 
> And for the paranoid, all google needs for your login is your email  
> addresswhich it already has, duh!
> 

Wandering a bit off-topic, apologies.

Yes, I know, there is a Google account with my name on it. There's a 
difference here, but to me it does show a bit of paranoia, in this age 
of stolen identities. "I" don't have a Google account because "I" never 
set it up. Someone else set it up using my name and email.

It matters to me right now because our "beloved" University I work at 
has just moved all their email over to Google. What a mess, I'm the tech 
that deals with it at the desktop end. They set up an account for me 
with a non-intuitive username so everyone can get it wrong. And 
calendars? It was supposed to solve the calendar mess so everyone would 
work off the same page. Instead, everyone has two or three of their own 
calendars and then invites you to join theirs. So now there are hundreds 
I'm expected to wade through. Sheesh.

/rant

Apologies again for list off-topic

Stephen

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Re: What OCR for Leopard?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Aug 26, 2009, at 6:29 PM, Bill Connelly wrote:

>
>
> On Aug 26, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote:
>>
>> I didn't see it mentioned, but if you just happen to have access to
>> the
>> full version of Adobe Acrobat, there is an OCR module built-in. I
>> haven't used it so I can't testify to it's ability or agility.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>
> I have Acrobat 6 Pro under Leopard 10.5.7 and I got this just now
> OCRing using "Paper Capture" of a letter from Adult Protective
> Services for a problem at Westminster Canterbury Retirement Community:
>
>
>
> Pretty good, don't you think?
>



Good, yes, but decidedly TMI.  Also redaction need to be 100% to be  
effective :-)

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Re: Online Subscription Management for Google Groups

[Bruce Johnson]

On Aug 26, 2009, at 6:01 PM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote:

> Interesting. I don't have a Google login. I was grandfathered in from
> the old non-Google list. This may be another reason that the  
> unsubscribe
> may not work. I'm not ready to quit yet though!


You do have a google login. You may not know the password, but you do  
have a Google account, since that's how you were 'grandfathered in'.

And for the paranoid, all google needs for your login is your email  
addresswhich it already has, duh!

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"Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai,  PhD


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Re: OSX10.4 on G3

[Bill Connelly]

On Aug 27, 2009, at 8:54 AM, steveoa wrote:

>
> Thanks for the feedback, before I do anything I think I need to run
> the Disk Utility, - could someone let me know where I can find it?to
> find any probs with the System on HD ?

>

You can run Disk Utility from the Installation Disk. Just Startup with  
it in, holding down "C", and after the Languages window, look for Disk  
Utility in one of the Menues along the top.

Its also located in your Applications > Utilities folder if you've  
started up from the HD ... although you cannot repair the boot Mac OS  
X partition, unless you're started up from the Installation DVD/CD, or  
from another OS X partition.


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Re: OSX10.4 on G3

[steveoa]

Thanks for the feedback, before I do anything I think I need to run
the Disk Utility, - could someone let me know where I can find it?to
find any probs with the System on HD ?
 Then I need to run Archive and Install from the Installation disk?

Steve

On Aug 26, 3:53 pm, Dan  wrote:
> At 10:38 AM -0400 8/26/2009, Richard Gerome wrote:
>
> >I really think you should have a processor speed over 650mhz for
> >running Tiger... I have a few old clamshells and my 466 runs faster
> >then my 366 running Jaguar, I get the spinning color disc too on the
> >366 more then the 466... When I went from 10.1 to 10.2.8 that slowed
> >both machines down a lot... I bought a 366 off ebay and it had
> >Panther in it and that was just way too slow for me even running
> >576mb so I did a clean and reinstall with Jaguar...   Rich
>
> Tiger runs just fine, even at 300 MHz.
>
> The SPOD mostly comes from apps needing resources, such as waiting
> for disk i/o, paging memory, or network data.
>
> - Dan.
> --
> - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

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Re: OS 10.4 to Thumbdrive

[PM7500]

Or use an external drive. I recently bought a 1.5tb USB drive for my
Digital Audio for $150 for holding all my media files that the
internal drive was too small to handle. You also don't have to worry
about the large drive limitation when you use an external drive. My
internal drive is now strictly used for booting the OS and holding a
few apps that I don't want to have to dig through the larger to find
when I need them.

On Aug 26, 11:27 am, Jasiu  wrote:
> I have a G4 Sawtooth 400 MHZ machine running 10.4.11.  I want to put a
> larger HD in.  How do I go about saving thew OS that is currently on
> it?  Can I put it on a thumbdrive?  Will it boot from it?  Thanks

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