Re: Firefox
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 3:49 PM -0700 2/17/2010, Bruce Johnson wrote: JavaScript was so named simply because Java was the hot buzzword of the day back then. It should really be named WebScript or HTMLScript or something like that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECMAScript ___ You will note that the OP asked So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? . I was having the same sorts of messages in FireFox until the Java and Java add-ons were dealt with as i described. You can quibble about the difference all you want. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Translate an Appleworks file .cwk to iWork on an iMac
On Feb 17, 2010, at 11:31 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: Excel will also do databases besides spreadsheets. So I was hoping that the same would be true with iWork. I didn't know that, thats what i thought Access was for :\ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Dark Grey Screen???
This is a first for me??? When I booted up my computer this morning the whole screen turned a dark grey with a view of my desktop in the back ground and a white window with black letters (everything went black and white) came up asking me to restart the computer holding down the start button for a few seconds??? Does anyone out there know what this means??? I've been planning on doing a clean and reinstall soon because I bought this computer used a yr ago and it still has the orig owner as the admin, I just got a new Tiger install disc to do it... Thanks!!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dark Grey Screen???
On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: This is a first for me??? When I booted up my computer this morning the whole screen turned a dark grey with a view of my desktop in the back ground and a white window with black letters (everything went black and white) came up asking me to restart the computer holding down the start button for a few seconds??? Does anyone out there know what this means??? I've been planning on doing a clean and reinstall soon because I bought this computer used a yr ago and it still has the orig owner as the admin, I just got a new Tiger install disc to do it... Thanks!!! It's called a Kernel Panic. Look on console to see what caused it, usually its drivers for me, or plugging in corrupt USB drives... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dark Grey Screen???
Richard, This could be caused by a number of things. Without knowing more about what Macintosh you have it would be hard to diagnose. Please provide more information on what Macintosh this is regarding. If it is not an iMac or Laptop please also provide information on the monitor. Thank You, Albert From: Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, February 18, 2010 9:31:21 AM Subject: Dark Grey Screen??? This is a first for me??? When I booted up my computer this morning the whole screen turned a dark grey with a view of my desktop in the back ground and a white window with black letters (everything went black and white) came up asking me to restart the computer holding down the start button for a few seconds??? Does anyone out there know what this means??? I've been planning on doing a clean and reinstall soon because I bought this computer used a yr ago and it still has the orig owner as the admin, I just got a new Tiger install disc to do it... Thanks!!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Feb 18, 2010, at 3:17 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: You will note that the OP asked So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? . I was having the same sorts of messages in FireFox until the Java and Java add-ons were dealt with as i described. You can quibble about the difference all you want. Not a quibble. I'm trying to keep a common misconception from spreading, before it becomes the next 'Zap your PRAM' or 'Repair Permissions' placebo. Java has *nothing whatsoever* to do with JavaScript. There are no Java elements on the Yahoo page in question. Updating Java for a J-script issue makes as much sense as You're having a problem with Photoshop? I'd re-install MS Office. If this process fixed your system, then your errors were either related to an actual Java program, not a JavaScript program or (far more likely) the updating process fixed the actual problem, like a corrupted cache. If there's a problem with Java on a page, the error message will refer to an 'applet' not a script. That 'script is busy or not responding' error message is exclusively a JavaScript error message. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Translate an Appleworks file .cwk to iWork on an iMac
On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:02 AM, Kasey Smith wrote: On Feb 17, 2010, at 11:31 PM, Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: Excel will also do databases besides spreadsheets. So I was hoping that the same would be true with iWork. I didn't know that, thats what i thought Access was for :\ No, Access is for CORRUPTING your databases, silly! 8-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 Power Mac OSX10.3 / classic with OS9.2.1
I was given a G4 Power Mac digital audio. I think about 700 Mhz.I`m new to Mac. I recognized the click of death in the HD, and replaced it with a 80 gig. I used the restore disk with the three install disks that came with it.I replaced the cd drive with a Samsung SH-S214D.So far. So good. The Samsung does not burn. Burn not supported. Reads DVD and CD fine. I suspect that I need unsupplied drivers and/or patches from third party.I`m looking for toast 6 and/or toast on ebay. I don`t want to upgrade to Tiger. Not Yet.The Mac is not on internet. My idea is to download files to a PC and transfer appropriate files by flash drive to the Mac. I don`t want to hub the Mac or rout it with the PC yet. If I can use the Samsung Lightscribe,I`d like to do so. OK. I`m open :-)* PC to Mac![?]* Gene -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list 000.gif
Re: Firefox
On Feb 17, 2010, at 10:47 PM, Dan wrote: At 3:49 PM -0700 2/17/2010, Bruce Johnson wrote: JavaScript was so named simply because Java was the hot buzzword of the day back then. It should really be named WebScript or HTMLScript or something like that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECMAScript I daresay the same people who use this name will be the same people who scold you for not using 'kibibytes' or 'gibibytes' to describe disks. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Power Mac OSX10.3 / classic with OS9.2.1
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Gene Henley mhenl...@gmail.com wrote: I was given a G4 Power Mac digital audio. I think about 700 Mhz.I`m new to Mac. I recognized the click of death in the HD, and replaced it with a 80 gig. I used the restore disk with the three install disks that came with it.I replaced the cd drive with a Samsung SH-S214D.So far. So good. The Samsung does not burn. Burn not supported. Reads DVD and CD fine. I suspect that I need unsupplied drivers and/or patches from third party.I`m looking for toast 6 and/or toast on ebay. I don`t want to upgrade to Tiger. Not Yet.The Mac is not on internet. My idea is to download files to a PC and transfer appropriate files by flash drive to the Mac. I don`t want to hub the Mac or rout it with the PC yet. If I can use the Samsung Lightscribe,I`d like to do so. OK. I`m open :-) PC to Mac! Gene Sounds like you're willing to fiddle, so I think you're off to a good start! Suggestions: [1] I would connect it to the Internet as soon as possible. You don't need to worry about antivirus software or anything - Macs are not prone to such problems. [2] To get your CD drive burning disks, a little program called Patchburn will probably sort you out. It's free. http://www.patchburn.de/ Lightscribe, I don't know. I guess you'd need a burning program such as Toast. [3] Tiger: I would recommend this strongly. It is a little bigger and slower than Panther, but some of the new facilities, such as Exposé and Dashboard are rather good. Actually, these days, 10.4 is pretty dated itself and the latest versions of many free programs (e.g. Growl or VLC) will no longer work on it. However, your machine is below the spec to officially run Leopard (10.5). You can coax it on with a program called LeopardAssist, however. But note, if you do go to 10.5, tyou will lose the ability to run MacOS 9.x under Classic - this was removed. [4] USB Flash drive - yes, this should work, so long as the drive is formatted with FAT32. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Power Mac OSX10.3 / classic with OS9.2.1
On 2/18/10 10:25 AM, Liam Proven wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Gene Henleymhenl...@gmail.com wrote: I was given a G4 Power Mac digital audio. I think about 700 Mhz.I`m new to Mac. I recognized the click of death in the HD, and replaced it with a 80 gig. I used the restore disk with the three install disks that came with it.I replaced the cd drive with a Samsung SH-S214D.So far. So good. The Samsung does not burn. Burn not supported. Reads DVD and CD fine. I suspect that I need unsupplied drivers and/or patches from third party.I`m looking for toast 6 and/or toast on ebay. I don`t want to upgrade to Tiger. Not Yet.The Mac is not on internet. My idea is to download files to a PC and transfer appropriate files by flash drive to the Mac. I don`t want to hub the Mac or rout it with the PC yet. If I can use the Samsung Lightscribe,I`d like to do so. OK. I`m open :-) PC to Mac! Gene [2] To get your CD drive burning disks, a little program called Patchburn will probably sort you out. It's free. http://www.patchburn.de/ Lightscribe, I don't know. I guess you'd need a burning program such as Toast. [3] Tiger: I would recommend this strongly. It is a little bigger and slower than Panther, but some of the new facilities, such as Exposé and Dashboard are rather good. Actually, these days, 10.4 is pretty dated itself and the latest versions of many free programs (e.g. Growl or VLC) will no longer work on it. However, your machine is below the spec to officially run Leopard (10.5). You can coax it on with a program called LeopardAssist, however. But note, if you do go to 10.5, tyou will lose the ability to run MacOS 9.x under Classic - this was removed. Another reason, I believe, to go to Tiger is there is more native support for disk burners. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Power Mac OSX10.3 / classic with OS9.2.1
In a message dated 2/18/10 10:25:48 AM, lpro...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Gene Henley mhenl...@gmail.com wrote: I was given a G4 Power Mac digital audio. I think about 700 Mhz.I`m new to Mac. I recognized the click of death in the HD, and replaced it with a 80 gig. I used the restore disk with the three install disks that came with it.I replaced the cd drive with a Samsung SH-S214D.So far. So good. The Samsung does not burn. Burn not supported. Reads DVD and CD fine. I suspect that I need unsupplied drivers and/or patches from third party.I`m looking for toast 6 and/or toast on ebay. I don`t want to upgrade to Tiger. Not Yet.The Mac is not on internet. My idea is to download files to a PC and transfer appropriate files by flash drive to the Mac. I don`t want to hub the Mac or rout it with the PC yet. If I can use the Samsung Lightscribe,I`d like to do so. OK. I`m open :-) PC to Mac! Gene Sounds like you're willing to fiddle, so I think you're off to a good start! Suggestions: [1] I would connect it to the Internet as soon as possible. You don't need to worry about antivirus software or anything - Macs are not prone to such problems. [2] To get your CD drive burning disks, a little program called Patchburn will probably sort you out. It's free. http://www.patchburn.de/ Lightscribe, I don't know. I guess you'd need a burning program such as Toast. [3] Tiger: I would recommend this strongly. It is a little bigger and slower than Panther, but some of the new facilities, such as Exposé and Dashboard are rather good. Actually, these days, 10.4 is pretty dated itself and the latest versions of many free programs (e.g. Growl or VLC) will no longer work on it. However, your machine is below the spec to officially run Leopard (10.5). You can coax it on with a program called LeopardAssist, however. But note, if you do go to 10.5, tyou will lose the ability to run MacOS 9.x under Classic - this was removed. [4] USB Flash drive - yes, this should work, so long as the drive is formatted with FAT32. I use a free Lightscribe program you can download for !0.4.11 I'ts called SimpleLabler and it's just that, very handy little labeler. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Feb 18, 2010, at 3:17 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: You will note that the OP asked So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? . I was having the same sorts of messages in FireFox until the Java and Java add-ons were dealt with as i described. You can quibble about the difference all you want. Not a quibble. I'm trying to keep a common misconception from spreading, before it becomes the next 'Zap your PRAM' or 'Repair Permissions' placebo. Java has *nothing whatsoever* to do with JavaScript. There are no Java elements on the Yahoo page in question. Updating Java for a J-script issue makes as much sense as You're having a problem with Photoshop? I'd re-install MS Office. If this process fixed your system, then your errors were either related to an actual Java program, not a JavaScript program or (far more likely) the updating process fixed the actual problem, like a corrupted cache. If there's a problem with Java on a page, the error message will refer to an 'applet' not a script. That 'script is busy or not responding' error message is exclusively a JavaScript error message. _ Then why do the tags that AdBlock plus attaches to ads bring up a menu which includes a Java item? And why do the ads go away when you drop the URL into the AdBlock filter panel? And I think the updating process was not as important as eliminating multiple installs. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ http://twitter.com/FluxStringer http://mog.com/FluxMuse -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
At 8:17 PM + 2/18/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Then why do the tags that AdBlock plus attaches to ads bring up a menu which includes a Java item? Because AdBlock is lame? Seriously - that Yahoo page contains NO Java at all. It has lots of JavaScript, but NO Java. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dark Grey Screen???
At 9:31 AM -0500 2/18/2010, Richard Gerome wrote: When I booted up my computer this morning Exactly what computer is this? Details please. the whole screen turned a dark grey with a view of my desktop in the back ground and a white window with black letters (everything went black and white) came up asking me to restart the computer holding down the start button for a few seconds? As Kasey said in his reply - it's a Kernel Panic. A panic is when the whole OS crashes so badly it can no longer continue. Most often this is caused by a serious hardware problem - bad memory being the most common. Is that Mac now running? If it is, use Console.app (in /Applications/Utilities/) to view the panic log. From that, you can often tell what failed. Did/does that Mac BONG normally? The bong indicates the self-test passed. If it fails, you'll either hear nothing, or a chord or beeps - which indicate what failed. I've been planning on doing a clean and reinstall soon because I bought this computer used a yr ago and it still has the orig owner as the admin, I just got a new Tiger install disc to do it. Probably a good idea, but you should try to figure out what caused the panic first. No sense in introducing a software change when trying to debug a hardware problem. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DL DVD burning
On Feb 18, 2010, at 1:42 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: And the DVR-106D has v. 108 firmware? If not, you CAN flash this on your Mac. You can get firmware and flash tool for it here: http://files.rpc1.org/index.php?act=categoryid=1080 Also, the Pioneer is older and has restricted media types. Here's a chart that shows EXACTLY which types of discs the DVD-106D can use, and about half the discs aren't available to the DVD-106D (the ones with the X don't work in the DVD-106D): http://wwwbsc.pioneer.co.jp/product-e/ibs/device_e/mediachart.html These charts are complex and you need to look at them carefully, especially for the difference between DVD+R and DVD-R discs. It appears the DVD-106D can only handled discs that are x2 or x4 discs, with the possible exception of being able to use the x8 DVD+R discs also. The DVD-106D is a 4x writer and thus incapable of recording any dual-layer DVDs, but it should read them. I made several attempts to upgrade one of my Pioneer 106Ds using the dvrflash ... so far no go. Beforehand, It didn't read properly anymore, so maybe its just shot. Here's the Terminal output: Last login: Thu Feb 18 16:52:00 on ttys000 Acoustic-Piano-Mac:~ moonstoneartstudio$ /Users/moonstoneartstudio/ Desktop/DVRFlash/dvrflash -f PIONEER /Users/moonstoneartstudio/Desktop/ DVRFlash/R616.105 /Users/moonstoneartstudio/Desktop/DVRFlash/ R6100106.108 -bash: /Users/moonstoneartstudio/Desktop/DVRFlash/dvrflash: Permission denied Acoustic-Piano-Mac:~ moonstoneartstudio$ Some how I'm not getting through ... is there some way to clear the way using my Admin Password? (if that's the problem). Recap ... I believe the Samsung is functioning properly, but that the Zenith set top just cannot read the DL DVDs. I can go several $40-45 routes: a. Buy a Sony Set Top (DVD only) player, that plays DL DVD+Rs. b. Buy DVD2OneX, and convert my DVD files to Single Layer DVDs (starting to like that idea) http://www.dvd2one.com/?loc=about c. Buy a Pioneer DL DVR-118D, and replace the failed DVR-106D ... still doesn't solve the Playback issue, unless I connect one of my Macs up to he TV (then I could playback from the harddrive, but wouldn't have any remote control over the playback). Perhaps I've gotten off topic, and after hijacking this thread! ... apologies. Note: I did discover, during all this, Share Screen between my DA Dual 533 and my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz ... So if Time Machine wasn't good enough an idea for buying Leopard ... Share Screen makes up for it. ... IMHO. Very Cool. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dark Grey Screen???
On 2/18/2010 2:05 PM, Dan wrote: Did/does that Mac BONG normally? The bong indicates the self-test passed. If it fails, you'll either hear nothing, or a chord or beeps - which indicate what failed. And even if it bongs, this does not put the hardware in the clear. You could still have hardware problems. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Power Mac OSX10.3 / classic with OS9.2.1
On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Liam Proven wrote: [3] Tiger: I would recommend this strongly. It is a little bigger and slower than Panther, but some of the new facilities, such as Exposé and Dashboard are rather good. Actually, these days, 10.4 is pretty Just some info, but Panther has Exposé already ;) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tiffany+wwe+playboy I have NoScript and use the latest version of Firefox So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? I do NOT have scripts enabled for this page Hi, according to Google this will fix your problem: http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/aclk?sa=lai=BlQDwYcl9S-XZJIqKywXC2eyVCfjV2zmgt4zlEMCNtwHwkwkQBRgFIIaPgAIoCTgAUN710oQDYMnOu4vApOwQoAGk9uT6A7IBD21haWwuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbboBCGdtYWlsLWN2yAEB2gH_AWh0dHA6Ly9tYWlsLmdvb2dsZS5jb20vTVRNeU56a3lOek01TURZMk5USXhOamMyTmpFeE16STNPVFF4TlRNMk5qVTFOVFU0TkRnd01ERXpNamM1TkRFNU1EY3lPVEl6TURnMk56TXdNVE15TnprMk5EYzROVEUwTWpVek9UZ3dOekF4TXpJM09UWTFNakV3Tnprek16VXlNekF5TURFek1qYzVOalU1TVRZd05qQTJNamd3T0RBd01UTXlOemsyTnpJMk9UQTNOREkyTVRVM05EQXhNekkzT1RreU1qY3lNVFV3TkRJME5EVXhNREV6TWpnd01Ea3lNamM1TlRZMYACAagDAegDsALoAyDoA9wF9QMAAACEnum=5ggladgrp=8243566441490933203gglcreat=10995913864112293152sig=AGiWqtxSZKqeO4p8crpqpw0ffiYjSrM0Kgadurl=http://regtool.com/lp1.php%3Faid%3D4577%26tid%3Dgtest (tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/ybh577l). -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 6:14 PM, John Musbach johnmusba...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tiffany+wwe+playboy I have NoScript and use the latest version of Firefox So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? I do NOT have scripts enabled for this page Hi, according to Google this will fix your problem: REALLY?!?!? Running some, ahem, tool to scan the Windows registry will fix a Mac OS X system problem??? Apparently Microsoft Apple have been copying from each other to a much greater extent than I realized! ;-) -irrational john -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:14 PM, John Musbach wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tiffany+wwe+playboy I have NoScript and use the latest version of Firefox So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? I do NOT have scripts enabled for this page Hi, according to Google this will fix your problem: http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/aclk?sa=lai=BlQDwYcl9S-XZJIqKywXC2eyVCfjV2zmgt4zlEMCNtwHwkwkQBRgFIIaPgAIoCTgAUN710oQDYMnOu4vApOwQoAGk9uT6A7IBD21haWwuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbboBCGdtYWlsLWN2yAEB2gH_AWh0dHA6Ly9tYWlsLmdvb2dsZS5jb20vTVRNeU56a3lOek01TURZMk5USXhOamMyTmpFeE16STNPVFF4TlRNMk5qVTFOVFU0TkRnd01ERXpNamM1TkRFNU1EY3lPVEl6TURnMk56TXdNVE15TnprMk5EYzROVEUwTWpVek9UZ3dOekF4TXpJM09UWTFNakV3Tnprek16VXlNekF5TURFek1qYzVOalU1TVRZd05qQTJNamd3T0RBd01UTXlOemsyTnpJMk9UQTNOREkyTVRVM05EQXhNekkzT1RreU1qY3lNVFV3TkRJME5EVXhNREV6TWpnd01Ea3lNamM1TlRZMYACAagDAegDsALoAyDoA9wF9QMAAACEnum=5ggladgrp=8243566441490933203gglcreat=10995913864112293152sig=AGiWqtxSZKqeO4p8crpqpw0ffiYjSrM0Kgadurl=http://regtool.com/lp1.php%3Faid%3D4577%26tid%3Dgtest (tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/ybh577l). Don't post links to bleep malware here. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Translate an Appleworks file .cwk to iWork on an iMac
On Feb 18, 2010, at 3:37 PM, Kasey Smith wrote: l will also do databases besides spreadsheets. So I was hoping that the same would be true with iWork. I didn't know that, thats what i thought Access was for :\ No, Access is for CORRUPTING your databases, silly! 8-) Lol, still i didn't know that Excel did databases. Last time I used MS Office was a few years ago before I found OpenOffice (on Windows *ducks*) Before going to OO i was using Office 2000. Excel will open individual Access tables, I'd have to dig through the converters list to see if it'll open Appleworks database tables. OO (presuming it's v 3 or higher) actually has a real SQL database module. http://hsqldb.org/ Actually a pretty cool little DBMS. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On 2/18/10, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:14 PM, John Musbach wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Stephen Conrad khel...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the site http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tiffany+wwe+playboy I have NoScript and use the latest version of Firefox So why does this site get me a warning that a script is busy or not responding? I do NOT have scripts enabled for this page Hi, according to Google this will fix your problem: http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/aclk?sa=lai=BlQDwYcl9S-XZJIqKywXC2eyVCfjV2zmgt4zlEMCNtwHwkwkQBRgFIIaPgAIoCTgAUN710oQDYMnOu4vApOwQoAGk9uT6A7IBD21haWwuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbboBCGdtYWlsLWN2yAEB2gH_AWh0dHA6Ly9tYWlsLmdvb2dsZS5jb20vTVRNeU56a3lOek01TURZMk5USXhOamMyTmpFeE16STNPVFF4TlRNMk5qVTFOVFU0TkRnd01ERXpNamM1TkRFNU1EY3lPVEl6TURnMk56TXdNVE15TnprMk5EYzROVEUwTWpVek9UZ3dOekF4TXpJM09UWTFNakV3Tnprek16VXlNekF5TURFek1qYzVOalU1TVRZd05qQTJNamd3T0RBd01UTXlOemsyTnpJMk9UQTNOREkyTVRVM05EQXhNekkzT1RreU1qY3lNVFV3TkRJME5EVXhNREV6TWpnd01Ea3lNamM1TlRZMYACAagDAegDsALoAyDoA9wF9QMAAACEnum=5ggladgrp=8243566441490933203gglcreat=10995913864112293152sig=AGiWqtxSZKqeO4p8crpqpw0ffiYjSrM0Kgadurl=http://regtool.com/lp1.php%3Faid%3D4577%26tid%3Dgtest (tinyurl http://tinyurl.com/ybh577l). Don't post links to bleep malware here. Huh? What makes you think that's malwae? -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Power Mac OSX10.3 / classic with OS9.2.1
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Liam Proven wrote: [3] Tiger: I would recommend this strongly. It is a little bigger and slower than Panther, but some of the new facilities, such as Exposé and Dashboard are rather good. Actually, these days, 10.4 is pretty Just some info, but Panther has Exposé already ;) Oops! Er, Dashboard and Spotlight, then. TBH, myself, Spotlight is the only one I really use. Spotlight I use many times a day, Exposé once a season and Dashboard only when demoing the machine... -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AOL/AIM/iChat/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • LiveJournal/Twitter: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
is thermal calibration necessary?
hope youn's all will forgive my stoopid question. ok, so i put the replacement mobo in a G5 DP, and it works fine. so next i'm supposed to run the thermal calibration on the ASD disc, right? otherwise what? the fans will run at top speed all the time? and that's bad because? if it's just a noise issue, i couldn't care less. aren't the processors better off if they get maximum cooling all the time? IS there any actual benefit to the hardware, or some other reason that requires running the thermal calibration app? TIA for all replies. john 8^) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: hope youn's all will forgive my stoopid question. ok, so i put the replacement mobo in a G5 DP, and it works fine. so next i'm supposed to run the thermal calibration on the ASD disc, right? otherwise what? the fans will run at top speed all the time? and that's bad because? if it's just a noise issue, i couldn't care less. aren't the processors better off if they get maximum cooling all the time? IS there any actual benefit to the hardware, or some other reason that requires running the thermal calibration app? TIA for all replies. Have you heard the G5 DP fans run at full speed? I swear it's moved across the desk several inches when that happens. I think you will care about the noise. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Power Mac OSX10.3 / classic with OS9.2.1
On Feb 18, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Liam Proven wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 18, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Liam Proven wrote: [3] Tiger: I would recommend this strongly. It is a little bigger and slower than Panther, but some of the new facilities, such as Exposé and Dashboard are rather good. Actually, these days, 10.4 is pretty Just some info, but Panther has Exposé already ;) Oops! Er, Dashboard and Spotlight, then. TBH, myself, Spotlight is the only one I really use. Spotlight I use many times a day, Exposé once a season and Dashboard only when demoing the machine... Lol, i use Exposé all the time, dashboard a bit (for iStat Pro) and almost never use spotlight. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
On 2/18/2010 7:30 PM, McGrude wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, ah...clemboneheads...@gmail.com wrote: Have you heard the G5 DP fans run at full speed? I swear it's moved across the desk several inches when that happens. I think you will care about the noise. I lost a cat once to a G5 running full tilt. Sucked it right through the holes in the case. Heck of a mess to clean up... :P -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
SeaMonkey email ?
I have received an email in SeaMonkey that has a list of email addresses that I want to add to my address book. What's the easy way to do that? SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mac G4 -- Joan Duncan, ASID Interior Architecture Design (o) 575.751.3030 (c) 575.770.4252 (f) 575.751.3434 www.acreatrix.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
Jason Brown wrote: On 2/18/2010 7:30 PM, McGrude wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:27 PM, ah...clemboneheads...@gmail.com wrote: Have you heard the G5 DP fans run at full speed? I swear it's moved across the desk several inches when that happens. I think you will care about the noise. I lost a cat once to a G5 running full tilt. Sucked it right through the holes in the case. Heck of a mess to clean up... :P Exactly ... when my dualie is running normal I never hear it but when something clicks and it goes into high gear ... well let's just say that I know what a wind tunnel sounds like!! Dan II -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dark Grey Screen???
It is a G4 Titanium Powerbook 15 1G Processor and 1G Ram... -Original Message- From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 18, 2010 4:05 PM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Dark Grey Screen??? At 9:31 AM -0500 2/18/2010, Richard Gerome wrote: When I booted up my computer this morning Exactly what computer is this? Details please. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
On 2/18/10 7:13 PM, Jason Brown wrote: I lost a cat once to a G5 running full tilt. Sucked it right through the holes in the case. Heck of a mess to clean up... : You're kidding..right? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/18/10 7:13 PM, Jason Brown wrote: I lost a cat once to a G5 running full tilt. Sucked it right through the holes in the case. Heck of a mess to clean up... : You're kidding..right? Have you heard a G5 DP at full tilt? I'm half ready to believe his tall tale. The only Apple system that I've used that was worse was a G5 XServe. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
On 2/18/10 8:01 PM, McGrude wrote: Have you heard a G5 DP at full tilt? I'm half ready to believe his tall tale. The only Apple system that I've used that was worse was a G5 XServe. No, I have not. But I'm inclined now to find one and see/hear for myself. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
I think you mean the original G4 1GHz Xserve. They are just constantly loud. The latter 1.33GHz G4 are MUCH better. The G5 is only loud at start-up. --- On Thu, 2/18/10, McGrude mcgr...@gmail.com wrote: The only Apple system that I've used that was worse was a G5 XServe. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dark Grey Screen???
Is that Mac now running? If it is, use Console.app (in /Applications/Utilities/) to view the panic log. From that, you can often tell what failed. It started back up with no problems and is running but there is a delay when I'm typing and I get the spinning ball sometimes... I have been having trouble with the spinning ball for a few weeks but not typing... Did/does that Mac BONG normally? The bong indicates the self-test passed. If it fails, you'll either hear nothing, or a chord or beeps - which indicate what failed. It never stopped the bong on startup even when i got that screen and by the way it was a dark gray screen but the window error message was out line in white and had white letters and it was also in Spanish and another language... I never had any problems with any of my Apple computers in the 14-15 yrs!!! I'm trying now to figure out how to get that panic report, I never did this before??? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:07 PM, John Niven sense...@yahoo.com wrote: I think you mean the original G4 1GHz Xserve. No it's a G5. Sounds like a gas turbine for about 10 to 20 seconds at boot. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dark Grey Screen???
On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: Is that Mac now running? If it is, use Console.app (in /Applications/Utilities/) to view the panic log. From that, you can often tell what failed. It started back up with no problems and is running but there is a delay when I'm typing and I get the spinning ball sometimes... I have been having trouble with the spinning ball for a few weeks but not typing... Did/does that Mac BONG normally? The bong indicates the self-test passed. If it fails, you'll either hear nothing, or a chord or beeps - which indicate what failed. It never stopped the bong on startup even when i got that screen and by the way it was a dark gray screen but the window error message was out line in white and had white letters and it was also in Spanish and another language... I never had any problems with any of my Apple computers in the 14-15 yrs!!! I'm trying now to figure out how to get that panic report, I never did this before??? I would try a HDD swap and see if the problem goes away. I think you could even do it with a FW external. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA carmo...@aol,com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
John Niven wrote: I think you mean the original G4 1GHz Xserve. They are just constantly loud. The latter 1.33GHz G4 are MUCH better. The G5 is only loud at start-up. NOT MINE! G5 2.5 Dualie ... the UP railroad had a gas turbine locomotive they called Big Blow! I think I bought it by mistake ... not all of the time but when it does ... run or put in ear plugs!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firefox
On 2/18/10, Nestamicky nestami...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/18/10 5:59 PM, John Musbach wrote: (tinyurlhttp://tinyurl.com/ybh577l). Don't post links tobleep malware here. Huh? What makes you think that's malwae? Can you show that it's not. We have a rather decent community here, as you know, John. Well excuse me, I wouldn't recommend software if I knew it was malware. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
On 2/18/10, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote: hope youn's all will forgive my stoopid question. ok, so i put the replacement mobo in a G5 DP, and it works fine. so next i'm supposed to run the thermal calibration on the ASD disc, right? otherwise what? the fans will run at top speed all the time? and that's bad because? if it's just a noise issue, i couldn't care less. aren't the processors better off if they get maximum cooling all the time? IS there any actual benefit to the hardware, or some other reason that requires running the thermal calibration app? TIA for all replies. the only calibration you need to do in this respect is a periodical cleaning of the dust from the internals of your mac. -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dark Grey Screen???
On Feb 18, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Richard Gerome wrote: It started back up with no problems and is running but there is a delay when I'm typing and I get the spinning ball sometimes... I have been having trouble with the spinning ball for a few weeks but not typing... Reinstall the latest Combo Update. It never stopped the bong on startup even when i got that screen and by the way it was a dark gray screen but the window error message was out line in white and had white letters and it was also in Spanish and another language... I never had any problems with any of my Apple computers in the 14-15 yrs!!! This is just a standard panic window, nothing to worry about. It's bark is worse than it's bite, especially since you rebooted OK. If you get this again, reboot holding the Shift key for Safe Boot. This will load only the base set of extensions and dump the boot cache files, so on the next boot you'll get a clean boot process. I'm trying now to figure out how to get that panic report, I never did this before??? Open Console which is in your ApplicationsUtilities folder and look for Panic Reporter. The log file should be in /Library/Logs/Panic Reporter, at least in Leopard, I'm not sure about Tiger and before. In the backtrace the extension mentioned is likely the cause of the panic. In my experience it's normally add-on things like USB devices; or non-Apple extensions that drive other hardware. A reinstallation of the Combo Update will solve many tiny software glitches in one easy shotgun approach. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:30 PM, McGrude wrote: Have you heard the G5 DP fans run at full speed? I swear it's moved across the desk several inches when that happens. I think you will care about the noise. I totally agree, the G5 fans are jet engines. I hit Shutdown and then grab it and hold it down just be be sure it doesn't fly away. When my G5 was repaired by Apple they forgot to do the thermal calibration, and I had to take it back. It cost me another week without it. Needless to say, I decided this was something that I didn't want to happen again, so I searched out ASD discs. I can't say I ever really necessarily found the correct version of ASD for my Early 2005 G5 because I wasn't ever certain which version was correct? I did boot at least one or two ASD versions, but I never saw any thermal calibration software? Also I was somewhat confused about these discs, I think they were dual boot discs, and you needed to hold some key(s) to get it to boot one way or the other? I can't remember if the Option key boot gave you all the choices, but I remember being somewhat unhappy that I couldn't locate said thermal calibration software. If anyone has experience doing a thermal calibration on a G5 could you enlighten us please? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
On 2/18/2010 8:57 PM, Nestamicky wrote: On 2/18/10 7:13 PM, Jason Brown wrote: I lost a cat once to a G5 running full tilt. Sucked it right through the holes in the case. Heck of a mess to clean up... : You're kidding..right? Of course :P -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: is thermal calibration necessary?
On 2/18/2010 9:56 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:30 PM, McGrude wrote: When my G5 was repaired by Apple they forgot to do the thermal calibration, and I had to take it back. It cost me another week without it. Needless to say, I decided this was something that I didn't want to happen again, so I searched out ASD discs. I can't say I ever really necessarily found the correct version of ASD for my Early 2005 G5 because I wasn't ever certain which version was correct? I did boot at least one or two ASD versions, but I never saw any thermal calibration software? Also I was somewhat confused about these discs, I think they were dual boot discs, and you needed to hold some key(s) to get it to boot one way or the other? I can't remember if the Option key boot gave you all the choices, but I remember being somewhat unhappy that I couldn't locate said thermal calibration software. If anyone has experience doing a thermal calibration on a G5 could you enlighten us please? On the ASD disc that I have there is an os9 style boot of sorts and an osx style boot of sorts. the x style boot is just for testing certain aspects of the hardware. The more conventional boot has all of the diagnostic utilities and under one of the menus up top, it has an option called thermal calibration. Run it and it will go through cycles for each processor and calibrate the fans. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
running OS 9.2 from a folder vs a partition.
Hi folks: I thought I had a partition for 10.2 and another for OS9.2, but upon closer examination it looks like I have OS 10.2 and a folder labeled OS9 applications, OS 9 System, etc. In the Startup Disk control panel, I can choose that the system use the OS9 system folder, which will make it boot into OS9, and viceversa. Can someone enlighten me as to why the previous owner would run it like this as opposed to there being two separate partitions? Do I gain anything? Lose anything? -carlos -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: running OS 9.2 from a folder vs a partition.
On 18 Feb 2010, at 22:41:46 PST, deadwinter wrote: I thought I had a partition for 10.2 and another for OS9.2, but upon closer examination it looks like I have OS 10.2 and a folder labeled OS9 applications, OS 9 System, etc. In the Startup Disk control panel, I can choose that the system use the OS9 system folder, which will make it boot into OS9, and viceversa. Can someone enlighten me as to why the previous owner would run it like this as opposed to there being two separate partitions? Do I gain anything? Lose anything? -- Well, I do it both ways on different machines. No real difference in operation as far as I can see. On my MDD I have 3 physical drives installed at different times. Thus I had an OS 9 drive before I ever upgraded to OS X. On my new Pismo, I installed a 4GB HD I had on hand. I installed 10.4.11 and then installed OS 9 on the same drive, no partitions. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: running OS 9.2 from a folder vs a partition.
On 2/18/10 10:41 PM, deadwinter wrote: Hi folks: I thought I had a partition for 10.2 and another for OS9.2, but upon closer examination it looks like I have OS 10.2 and a folder labeled OS9 applications, OS 9 System, etc. In the Startup Disk control panel, I can choose that the system use the OS9 system folder, which will make it boot into OS9, and viceversa. Can someone enlighten me as to why the previous owner would run it like this as opposed to there being two separate partitions? Do I gain anything? Lose anything? Usually, on a Mac list, that easiest way to generate a lot of e-mail messages is to ask about, suggest, or otherwise bring up partitioning. You'll get those who swear the more partitions the better and those who insist there is no point in more than one. This goes back to pre OS 9 days, the OS 9 / X partitioning question just added more fuel to the fire. That said, for what it's worth. The bulk of my systems are single partition. All the machines I've set up with X and 9 have had both on one partition and it has worked just fine for me. It's easy to install and switch between them. I don't like to partition unless I have to because it reduces flexibility. I'd hate to have to go and copy a couple of partitions to another disk then re-partition the disk then copy things back because one got full. It's enough of a pain when the whole disk runs out of room. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: running OS 9.2 from a folder vs a partition.
On 2/18/10 11:09 PM, Ken Daggett wrote: On my new Pismo, I installed a 4GB HD I had on hand. I installed 10.4.11 and then installed OS 9 on the same drive, no partitions. OUCH, 4Gb! You must like living in closets too. I have a new Pismo too. It's a little roomier, 120 Gb, but it is partitioned for Tiger and Fedora. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SeaMonkey email ?
Hello Joan, Yes, you can right click or Control + click and the option will pop up in a window to add to your address book - Seamonkey's Address book, that is. I thought you were upgrading to SM 2.0.2.(?) Well, if you're still on 10.3.9 (Panther) you can't go to SM 2.0.2. Oh well. Cheers anyway. :-) -Mike (resident SeaMonkey Addict) On Feb 18, 9:39 pm, Joan Duncan jn...@q.com wrote: I have received an email in SeaMonkey that has a list of email addresses that I want to add to my address book. What's the easy way to do that? SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Mac G4 -- Joan Duncan, ASID Interior Architecture Design (o) 575.751.3030 (c) 575.770.4252 (f) 575.751.3434www.acreatrix.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: SeaMonkey email ?
BTW, if you're streaming video movies, you should quit the Finder and all other Apps close other windows and the streaming will be s much smoother. SM can use quite a bit of CPU power at times. Close Mail too. I don't know exactly why other browsers don't generally stream movies better than my dear ol' SM. Ah, it's because I've tricked out Adblock Plus to filter out all the garb. Well, most of it and all the junk usually is gone when I play the movies, like banners. I use Socks 1.3.4 to quit the Finder from it's options in it's setup. - The option is available anytime I want to use it from the Finder Menu bar. Then, just click on the Finder in the Dock to reactivate it. I also use Dock Changer 1.0 for a more simple less GPU demanding dock like Panther's. Very helpful utilities! :-) =-) Mike -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
