Re: Cube processor upgrade?
On Apr 2, 2010, at 12:44 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Apr 1, 2010, at 12:41 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: It's much more reasonable to buy a 1.25Ghz PowerPC G4 processor upgrade rather that the ones you see, because you don't know what processors they are, and who knows what could be in them, if they are fast, and if they really are what they say they are. All the upgrade CPUs are made by standard Apple manufacturers. Apple PPC architecture isn't like PC, it's not a free-for-all where anyone can just make a compatible CPU. EVERY upgrade CPU for a PPC Mac is a REAL PowerPC CPU, there are no others. Upgrade CPU cards modules by Sonnet, PowerLogix, NewerTech, m...@box, XLR8, etc. all use REAL PPC CPUs. There are only 6 brand name processors i ever trusted, and they were: IBM Intel AMD PowerPC ARM Motorola Apple uses PPC CPUs made by Freescale also. There is no manufacturer called PowerPC, it's a brand name for a CPU architecture, just like Pentium. Freescale IS the former Motorola chipmaking division that was spun off four or five years ago. The Power PC chips are made right here in Austin... JT (Who still wishes that Apple would have selected (or bought) AMD) 2547% Penny Stock Picks? Our last pick exploded 2547% - Join our free newsletter today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4bb5b96742e1782135st06duc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: G5 and M-audio crash on boot
This is the behavior I referred to above (I don't know what other audio card to suggest): Having recently downloaded a lot of upgrades (FCE 4, Quicktime, iTunes, Security update, etc) ... I just got 3 kps in a row ... 2 between restart using the Programmer's button ... 1 on next Cold Boot ... finally went through, after I turned on a FW device I had turned off during the last session where the Mac seemed to be running well (not sure if this is this kps cause). I noticed each kp seemed to load more, by looking at the end of the panic log (not the top) ... don't know how to pinpoint the problem. Its possibly not the M-Audio drivers ... possibly a problem with M- Audio setting of Permissions ... their Uninstall doesn't work under Leopard, and I have to Uninstall manually ... tells me their support is incomplete ... Any suggestions? I'm now using applejack in Single User Mode to autopilot a possible solution ... Repairs Disk, Permissions, empties caches, etc. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Cube processor upgrade?
On Apr 1, 2010, at 10:44 PM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: Apple uses PPC CPUs made by Freescale also. Freescale is the name of the chip manufacturer formerly known as Motorola. -- Bruce -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Basic Video card question....
On 02/04/2010 06:17, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: alrighty then, i guess you are good to go... im i right? If so, then i am glad that i helped you out. any time you have a question about macs or pcs, come to me. -- Hi I've got one of these in my G4, ATI Radeon 9200: Chipset Model:ATY,RV280 Type:Display Bus:PCI Slot:SLOT-B VRAM (Total):128 MB Vendor:ATI (0x1002) Device ID:0x5961 Revision ID:0x0001 ROM Revision:113-A27502-127 Displays: DELL E173FP: Resolution:1280 x 1024 @ 75 Hz Depth:32-bit Color Core Image:Not Supported Main Display:Yes Its got an AGP slot on the board, I was wondering what I could put in it to give it a bit more oomph in the graphics department. TIA Steve -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
F/S Large Apple/Mac Collection
Is there any one on this list who would be interested in a large Apple/Mac Collection in Ohio ? Wm. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: F/S Large Apple/Mac Collection
On Apr 2, 2010, at 3:09 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote: Is there any one on this list who would be interested in a large Apple/Mac Collection in Ohio ? Wm. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. You should try the LEM Swap List, are you there already? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Sawtooth Video card/display issue
Hello group. I've got a Sawtooth (450 MHz) with some issues surrounding the display and most likely the video card. The machine has been used as a server for a long time and recently I wanted to put it in production. I moved the machine to a new location and did a fresh installation of Tiger on it. After being unimpressed with video performance from the original ATI Range Pro 128 (the default/original graphics card), I bought an ATI Radeon 7500 and popped it in. It's currently connected to my DVI monitor (as opposed to a VGA connection and it used to be to a different monitor). The issue I'm now having is these moments where the the display will black out for a few seconds and return to normal, almost like it lost a connection for a second. It seems to happen most often when I'm moving around windows or scrolling swiftly through webpages, etc. I know it's not the monitor or cable as I had been using it on another machine just fine. I never had this trouble with the ATI range either. Any ideas as to what is going on (already repaired disk permissions, reset PRAM, reset PMU, and booted into open firmware and entered the command reset- all)? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Sawtooth Video card/display issue
On 4/2/10 12:15 PM, Noah wrote: Hello group. I've got a Sawtooth (450 MHz) with some issues surrounding the display and most likely the video card. The machine has been used as a server for a long time and recently I wanted to put it in production. I moved the machine to a new location and did a fresh installation of Tiger on it. After being unimpressed with video performance from the original ATI Range Pro 128 (the default/original graphics card), I bought an ATI Radeon 7500 and popped it in. It's currently connected to my DVI monitor (as opposed to a VGA connection and it used to be to a different monitor). The issue I'm now having is these moments where the the display will black out for a few seconds and return to normal, almost like it lost a connection for a second. It seems to happen most often when I'm moving around windows or scrolling swiftly through webpages, etc. I know it's not the monitor or cable as I had been using it on another machine just fine. I never had this trouble with the ATI range either. Any ideas as to what is going on (already repaired disk permissions, reset PRAM, reset PMU, and booted into open firmware and entered the command reset- all)? I don't know what's going on but I have a Radeon, either 7000 or 7500 in my QuickSilver and when I had it connected via DVI it would every few minutes throw black streaks across the screen. I don't think it went completely black but it may have, it's been a while. The monitor is a 1600x1200 and when I dropped the resolution it didn't do it. I never tested it any further, I just switched over to VGA which hasn't had any such problem. It didn't seemed to be tied to any computer activity, it was just periodic. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: TiBook charger
On 4/1/10 1:57 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: Hi All I just got a TiBook 800, really nice piece everything works OK except the power adapter never turns green, even though the battery is fully charged and shows 100%. The adapter is good because I use it on other machines. Is this an indication of impending trouble or would I just ignore it? I had this happen on my old iBook. The light worked normally for years then it started to not turn green. The battery was relatively recent and the older battery it replaced didn't cause this to happen. The newer battery charges just fine and works great, it's just the indicator that's goofy. Also the battery indication in the menu bar shows it's fully charged. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Sawtooth Video card/display issue
On Apr 2, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Noah wrote: I bought an ATI Radeon 7500 and popped it in. This is an Apple OEM Radeon 7500? The Apple OEM Radeon 7500 was kinda rare, it only came in the 2002 Quicksilver G4. AFAIK there is only one Mac firmware for the 7500, it was the original version 222. You could check this in System ProfilerGraphics/DisplaysROM Revision. If it's a flashed PC Radeon 7500, there could be some issues, but normally these would manifest as graphics glitches (lines or regular patterns) rather than a black screen. Are you certain the backlight in your LCD isn't going bad? Reseating the card might be a good idea. Whatever the problem is, it's not common to Radeon graphics cards, and seems more like a connection issue or a monitor issue to me. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Sawtooth Video card/display issue
On Apr 2, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Noah wrote: An ATI Radeon 7500's currently connected to my DVI monitor (as opposed to a VGA connection and it used to be to a different monitor). The OEM Apple Radeon 7500 from the 2002 Quicksilver is ADC VGA ports only, so if your Radeon 7500 has a DVI port, it's definitely a flashed PC card rather than an OEM Apple card. Since there was only one Mac ROM for this card, and no Mac 7500 ever supported DVI, this is likely the problem. If it is, the easiest solution is to use the VGA port instead. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Your next G4 project!
On Apr 1, 4:54 pm, John Niven sense...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.weirdomatic.com/funny-mailboxes.html Check out the very last photo for your next G4 project! Thank you! For years I've been wondering what to do with the OEM case from my upgraded Cube, now my life has meaning again! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Sawtooth Video card/display issue
On Apr 2, 4:42 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Apr 2, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Noah wrote: The OEM Apple Radeon 7500 from the 2002 Quicksilver is ADC VGA ports only, so if your Radeon 7500 has a DVI port, it's definitely a flashed PC card rather than an OEM Apple card. Since there was only one Mac ROM for this card, and no Mac 7500 ever supported DVI, this is likely the problem. If it is, the easiest solution is to use the VGA port instead. I checked the ROM version and it is 222 here is the system profiler info: ATI Radeon 7500: Chipset Model:ATY,RV200 Type: Display Bus: AGP Slot: SLOT-A VRAM (Total): 64 MB Vendor: ATI (0x1002) Device ID:0x5157 Revision ID: 0x ROM Revision: 113-91701-222 Displays: HP 2009: Resolution: 1600 x 900 @ 60 Hz Depth:32-bit Color Core Image: Not Supported Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Quartz Extreme: Supported Display: Status: No display connected Also, the card must be flashed, it only has a DVI port, no VGA, so could this be the issue. I've cleaned out the cables and blasted them and the ports with dust remover and made sure the cables were in tight. So far it seems all right, but the problem could manifest itself again. If it does, what should I do about another video card? Any recommendations? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Sawtooth Video card/display issue
Hey guys i have a question. i also have a PM G4 sawtooth graphite, and i absolutely hate that ATI RAGE 128PRO. Would a flashed Nvidia GeForce 2 MX/MX440 work? It is a PC card. with 64MB RAM. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: F/S Large Apple/Mac Collection
yes i would. On 4/2/10, Bill Connelly billycarm...@verizon.net wrote: On Apr 2, 2010, at 3:09 PM, Wm. Arnold wrote: Is there any one on this list who would be interested in a large Apple/Mac Collection in Ohio ? Wm. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. You should try the LEM Swap List, are you there already? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Basic Video card question....
I would use a video card that has 256MB of VRAM. Most of my computers have that as a minimum, even though i almost never use graphics intensive programs, but just in case i have it there, it will be there. I reccommend an Nvidia GeForce 6800 GT with 256MB of VRAM. It can also have an extra 128MB of shared VRAM, getting up to 384MB of VRAM. I have an ATI RAGE 128PRO in my PM G4, and no matter what video card i buy, it's incompatible!!! GRRR. Anyways, i am looking for a video card to replace my current one. It lags so very badly under Leopard =(. On 4/2/10, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Apr 2, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Steve Thompson wrote: Its got an AGP slot on the board, I was wondering what I could put in it to give it a bit more oomph in the graphics department. A PCI graphics card has throughput of 1/2 AGP. The slowest Mac AGP slot is AGP x2, so minimally a the slowest AGP card has 4 times the throughput of your PCI card, and perhaps 8 times if you have a G4 with AGP x4 slot. You aren't getting any Quartz Extreme or Core Image acceleration with your Radeon 9200 PCI, although you can enable Quartz Extreme acceleration with PCI Extreme 3.1 available at MacUpdate. It works with 10.4.11. Many 8x AGP cards need to be slightly modified by taping pins 3 11 to work in older G4 PowerMacs. If you're upgrading, getting a card that supports Core Image/Core Graphics would be best. Here is a list of compatible cards for all the G4 models, and another page on how to modify pins 3 11 for the cards that need modification: http://themacelite.wikispaces.com/AGP+Graphics+Card+Compatibility +Chart http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Basic Video card question....
taping pins 3 11? what are you talking about? If this is some new technique, this better work... o_O On 4/2/10, Mark Sokolovsky coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I would use a video card that has 256MB of VRAM. Most of my computers have that as a minimum, even though i almost never use graphics intensive programs, but just in case i have it there, it will be there. I reccommend an Nvidia GeForce 6800 GT with 256MB of VRAM. It can also have an extra 128MB of shared VRAM, getting up to 384MB of VRAM. I have an ATI RAGE 128PRO in my PM G4, and no matter what video card i buy, it's incompatible!!! GRRR. Anyways, i am looking for a video card to replace my current one. It lags so very badly under Leopard =(. On 4/2/10, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Apr 2, 2010, at 10:35 AM, Steve Thompson wrote: Its got an AGP slot on the board, I was wondering what I could put in it to give it a bit more oomph in the graphics department. A PCI graphics card has throughput of 1/2 AGP. The slowest Mac AGP slot is AGP x2, so minimally a the slowest AGP card has 4 times the throughput of your PCI card, and perhaps 8 times if you have a G4 with AGP x4 slot. You aren't getting any Quartz Extreme or Core Image acceleration with your Radeon 9200 PCI, although you can enable Quartz Extreme acceleration with PCI Extreme 3.1 available at MacUpdate. It works with 10.4.11. Many 8x AGP cards need to be slightly modified by taping pins 3 11 to work in older G4 PowerMacs. If you're upgrading, getting a card that supports Core Image/Core Graphics would be best. Here is a list of compatible cards for all the G4 models, and another page on how to modify pins 3 11 for the cards that need modification: http://themacelite.wikispaces.com/AGP+Graphics+Card+Compatibility +Chart http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Cube processor upgrade?
This might be off-topic but fits with this response: John, You are only partially correct here. If you mean that AMD is CURRENTLY consistently behind Intel you would be correct, however AMD has in the past be ahead of Intel: 1) In 2006 AMD was the first to release a fully 64-bit processor 2) In this processor the AMD Athlon X2 64 AMD was ahead both in architechture and speed of dual core processors. 3) AMD was the 1st to implement TRUE dual core processors. I would have to agree that currently AMD falls behind Intel, however price perspective speaking they are a lot cheaper and probably aproach a better price:performance ratio than Intel. Honestly, in the short time I've been really into Macs again (almost a year) from what I've seen a Macintosh with an AMD Processor would still walk all over any Intel based PC. Heck I think my G4 walks over my PC, plus there would be a lower price point to boot. If Apple were to sink the $$ into AMD that they are currently sinking into Intel I believe AMD would be stronger financially and would probably be ahead of Intel in production than Intel. Albert On Apr 2, 10:44 am, John Musbach johnmusba...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/2/10, James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com wrote: JT (Who still wishes that Apple would have selected (or bought) AMD) uh why? AMD is consistently behind intel and has had financial troubles. Intel constantly leads in x86 technology and has had a stable financial record. Selecting AMD instead of intel wouldve put macs behind their competing pc counterparts in capability and speed, but perhaps that's your goal? -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Cube processor upgrade?
On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Albert Carter wrote: This might be off-topic but fits with this response: John, You are only partially correct here. If you mean that AMD is CURRENTLY consistently behind Intel you would be correct, however AMD has in the past be ahead of Intel: 1) In 2006 AMD was the first to release a fully 64-bit processor 2) In this processor the AMD Athlon X2 64 AMD was ahead both in architechture and speed of dual core processors. 3) AMD was the 1st to implement TRUE dual core processors. I would have to agree that currently AMD falls behind Intel, however price perspective speaking they are a lot cheaper and probably aproach a better price:performance ratio than Intel. Honestly, in the short time I've been really into Macs again (almost a year) from what I've seen a Macintosh with an AMD Processor would still walk all over any Intel based PC. Heck I think my G4 walks over my PC, plus there would be a lower price point to boot. If Apple were to sink the $$ into AMD that they are currently sinking into Intel I believe AMD would be stronger financially and would probably be ahead of Intel in production than Intel. Albert My original comment regarding Apple selecting the AMd vs. Intel was based primarily on the above. Considering that both, Motorola and IBM were couldn't do entities regarding the Power PC alliance in the past, I felt that AMD if given the task to forge a low power version for notebooks could have been achievable. But that's just me... Thinking out loud. Regards, JT Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4bb6c364e7856ad47est02vuc -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Cube processor upgrade?
Well... I should have read the fine print. If those cutstom processors are only upgrades from the ones of IBM and Motorola, then ok. look, these days Ican barely trust anyone with fixing my Macs. First they will say that it has alot of problems, then they charge me big bucks, and return it to me running into a kernel panic two weeks later. Look, i just overreacted to what happened when these guys ripped me off on craigslist. Grrr. If I said anything that's untrue, I only said that to watch out for scams. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
Re: Basic Video card question....
On Apr 2, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: taping pins 3 11? what are you talking about? If this is some new technique, this better work... o_O Obviously you're new to Macs. The x2 x4 AGP PowerMacs originally came with cards with ADC ports that carry 28v power for to Apple ADC monitors. If your trying to use any x8 AGP card in one of these ADC PowerMacs you MUST tape or cut the traces to pins 3 11 or the card won't work in these G4 PowerMacs. Instead of asking what are you talking about?, why not just read the links I provided last time? Here they are AGAIN, they have all the information necessary: http://themacelite.wikispaces.com/AGP+Graphics+Card+Compatibility http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.
