Re: APC UPS?

[Michael G.M.]

Jack Countryman wrote:
> I've got a Tripp-Lite model that I've replaced the battery in twice now.  I
> didn't really keep records, though I suppose I might be able to find when I
> paid for the batteries, but think they have lasted 2 to 3 years each.  Of
> course, both times, I didn't know the battery had failed till we had a power
> outage and the UPS didn't work.  Each time, I found a battery on eBay,
> replaced the battery (one screw to open the case, slide battery out
> disconnect two color coded leads, then reverse to install) and was back in
> use.  The APC models I've had didn't seem as easy to get into, so I've never
> replaced a battery in one of those.

Thank you both for your time and contribution, Jack and Anne.

Now that's not bad budgeting. I admire you, Jack. I wasn't interested
enough to get a
replacement battery for the APC - The cost is too close to a new w/
free shipping (Which I got). Plus, I have no idea how long the
replacement will last and if it doesn't have the reports that it would
last as long as the manufacturer's new one I figure: Why not buy a new
one anyway?

The APC was showing odd signs I didn't consider until now, like it was
beeping sometimes and of course, the power has been going out a couple
times every couple weeks.
Anyway, thank you! Lots more gardening ahead in my yard!


-Mike

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Re: APC UPS?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 30, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote:

> Michael,
> 
> They say UPS's are good for about 3 years max. I've
> often used them for longer though.
> 
> When I checked getting a new battery it seemed the battery
> cost as much (with shipping) as just buying a new APC.

They're expensive that way, but as Michael said, you can get 'em at Batteries 
Plus if there's one nearby

> I may have had a flaky one, I don't quite remember. One that seemed
> to come and go. It was ancient, I replaced it altogether.


We've found, in general APC UPS'es will last through two , sometimes three 
battery packs before something else dies and they need replacing; this is based 
on a bunch of 'em sitting in phone closets, which are not the best places. 
These are their better grade SmartUPS and such, not the consumer Back-UPS units.

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Re: APC UPS?

[Jack Countryman]

I've got a Tripp-Lite model that I've replaced the battery in twice now.  I
didn't really keep records, though I suppose I might be able to find when I
paid for the batteries, but think they have lasted 2 to 3 years each.  Of
course, both times, I didn't know the battery had failed till we had a power
outage and the UPS didn't work.  Each time, I found a battery on eBay,
replaced the battery (one screw to open the case, slide battery out
disconnect two color coded leads, then reverse to install) and was back in
use.  The APC models I've had didn't seem as easy to get into, so I've never
replaced a battery in one of those.


On 4/30/10 11:53 PM, "Anne Keller-Smith"  wrote:

> Michael,
> 
> They say UPS's are good for about 3 years max. I've
> often used them for longer though.
> 
> When I checked getting a new battery it seemed the battery
> cost as much (with shipping) as just buying a new APC.
> 
> You can try a new battery, I'd be interested in your experience.
> 
> Could the replace battery light be burned out? Just a wild guess.
> 
> I may have had a flaky one, I don't quite remember. One that seemed
> to come and go. It was ancient, I replaced it altogether.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> On Apr 30, 2010, at 10:30 PM, Michael G.M. wrote:
> 
>> Recently the power to my wife's Mac has been simply going out at
>> random odd times.
>> When I check the APC UPS it's OFF(?) -It's not using the APC software
>> or attached via USB for it to be software related.
> 
> Anne Keller Smith
> Down to Earth Web Design
> 
> Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo
> 1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5
> 
> Intel iMac 2.66gHz Core 2 Duo
> 2GB RAM, 264GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.6
> 
> G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower
> 896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11
> 
> mailto:earth...@ptd.net
> http://www.downtoearthweb.com
> 
> 


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Re: APC UPS?

[Anne Keller-Smith]

Michael,

They say UPS's are good for about 3 years max. I've
often used them for longer though.

When I checked getting a new battery it seemed the battery
cost as much (with shipping) as just buying a new APC.

You can try a new battery, I'd be interested in your experience.

Could the replace battery light be burned out? Just a wild guess.

I may have had a flaky one, I don't quite remember. One that seemed
to come and go. It was ancient, I replaced it altogether.

Good luck!

On Apr 30, 2010, at 10:30 PM, Michael G.M. wrote:


Recently the power to my wife's Mac has been simply going out at
random odd times.
When I check the APC UPS it's OFF(?) -It's not using the APC software
or attached via USB for it to be software related.


Anne Keller Smith
Down to Earth Web Design

Intel iMac 2.4gHz Core 2 Duo
1GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.5

Intel iMac 2.66gHz Core 2 Duo
2GB RAM, 264GB Hard Drive, OS 10.5.6

G4 Quicksilver 733mHz Tower
896 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive, OS 10.4.11

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Re: APC UPS?

[Michael G.M.]

Well, after some froogling and some thought I went ahead and ordered a
new Opti-UPS from newegg's.

All the best,


-Mike

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Re: No "apple dvd player"

[iJohn]

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Kris Tilford  wrote:
> If you don't have a supported DVD drive the OS X installer doesn't install
> DVD Player.

If that's true it does not make any sense to me.

First, I rarely ever use the DVD player to play a DVD which is in the
optical drive. Usually I have the ISO of the DVD on my hard drive and
OS X very conveniently mounts it which allows me to play it with DVD
player. So DVD player is still of value (to me) even if there is no
optical drive attached to the system.

Second, if you don't have an optical drive, how did you get OS X
installed in the first place? (Yes, you can extract the install media
to a DMG image and install from that, but how many folks actually
bother to do that? Would it really be worth the trouble to modify the
OS X install process to mess with such a nit?)

-irrationally confused john

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APC UPS?

[Michael G.M.]

Recently the power to my wife's Mac has been simply going out at
random odd times.
When I check the APC UPS it's OFF(?) -It's not using the APC software
or attached via USB for it to be software related.

I got this UPS around 5 years ago, and the replace battery light isn't
'Red' indicating the battery needs replacement. However, I wonder if
the old UPS is finally nearing retirement and needs a new battery
anyway or simply a new replacement UPS altogether.

I've read online you can get suitable replacement batteries for UPS' @
BatteriesPlus...

Anyone have any experience with these things and suggestions and
buying tips?

TIA!!! :-)
Mike

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Re: No "apple dvd player"

[Jeffrey Engle]

On Apr 30, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:


On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

well, that's what I thought it opens/closes fine too... checked  
cables ..nice and tight.. all looks ok, I'm guessing it's a bad  
drive.


I think you should try a Safe Boot (hold Shift key at boot) to  
delete all the cache files, and then restart normally. It may work  
after that?


Hmm, good idea... a pram reset might not be a bad idea either. Thanks,  
Kris


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Re: No "apple dvd player"

[Kris Tilford]

On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

well, that's what I thought it opens/closes fine too... checked  
cables ..nice and tight.. all looks ok, I'm guessing it's a bad drive.


I think you should try a Safe Boot (hold Shift key at boot) to delete  
all the cache files, and then restart normally. It may work after that?


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Re: No "apple dvd player"

[Jeffrey Engle]

On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Albert Carter wrote:

Sounds like either the power or the IDE cable came loose from the  
drive or in case of IDE cable could have come loose from the logic  
board. Or your DVD Drive has gone bad. I would recommend verifying  
all cables are plugged in correctly.




well, that's what I thought it opens/closes fine too... checked  
cables ..nice and tight.. all looks ok, I'm guessing it's a bad drive.  
Jeff


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Re: No "apple dvd player"

[Albert Carter]

Sounds like either the power or the IDE cable came loose from the drive or in 
case of IDE cable could have come loose from the logic board. Or your DVD Drive 
has gone bad. I would recommend verifying all cables are plugged in correctly.





From: Jeffrey Engle 
To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, April 30, 2010 9:36:51 PM
Subject: Re: No "apple dvd player"


On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

> On Apr 30, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
> 
>> here's one of things that I should know where to look for, but I'm 
>> stumped
>> 
>> I have no "Apple DVD Player" in the applications folder where it should be. 
>> (Leopard 10.5.8), how can I get it? Jeff  (and yes, I've recently added an 
>> optical drive to this MDD dual 1.42)
> 
> If you don't have a supported DVD drive the OS X installer doesn't install 
> DVD Player. Insert your Leopard Install DVD and use Pacifist to install DVD 
> Player separately.
> 
> Personally, I don't like Apple DVD Player. It automatically plays DVDs in 
> it's default state, which I don't like. I like using VLC to play DVDs because 
> it can play virtually any DVD irrespective of the region of the DVD which 
> means we don't need region free firmware for our DVD units any longer, they 
> can all play any region DVDs irrespective of how the optical drive is set. It 
> would be rare to have a non-region 1 DVD in America, but it's possible, and 
> would be a big disadvantage to Apple DVD Player since it can only play region 
> 1 DVDs (assuming your DVD unit is set to region 1 as it normally would be).


New problem? when I put the leopard install (or any other disk) it won't mount 
on the desktop or finder it shows up in hardware profile?? hmm.. Jeff

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Re: No "apple dvd player"

[Jeffrey Engle]

On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:34 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:


On Apr 30, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

here's one of things that I should know where to look for, but I'm  
stumped


I have no "Apple DVD Player" in the applications folder where it  
should be. (Leopard 10.5.8), how can I get it? Jeff  (and yes, I've  
recently added an optical drive to this MDD dual 1.42)


If you don't have a supported DVD drive the OS X installer doesn't  
install DVD Player. Insert your Leopard Install DVD and use Pacifist  
to install DVD Player separately.


Personally, I don't like Apple DVD Player. It automatically plays  
DVDs in it's default state, which I don't like. I like using VLC to  
play DVDs because it can play virtually any DVD irrespective of the  
region of the DVD which means we don't need region free firmware for  
our DVD units any longer, they can all play any region DVDs  
irrespective of how the optical drive is set. It would be rare to  
have a non-region 1 DVD in America, but it's possible, and would be  
a big disadvantage to Apple DVD Player since it can only play region  
1 DVDs (assuming your DVD unit is set to region 1 as it normally  
would be).



New problem? when I put the leopard install (or any other disk) it  
won't mount on the desktop or finder it shows up in hardware  
profile?? hmm.. Jeff


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Re: No "apple dvd player"

[Kris Tilford]

On Apr 30, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

here's one of things that I should know where to look for, but I'm  
stumped


I have no "Apple DVD Player" in the applications folder where it  
should be. (Leopard 10.5.8), how can I get it? Jeff  (and yes, I've  
recently added an optical drive to this MDD dual 1.42)


If you don't have a supported DVD drive the OS X installer doesn't  
install DVD Player. Insert your Leopard Install DVD and use Pacifist  
to install DVD Player separately.


Personally, I don't like Apple DVD Player. It automatically plays DVDs  
in it's default state, which I don't like. I like using VLC to play  
DVDs because it can play virtually any DVD irrespective of the region  
of the DVD which means we don't need region free firmware for our DVD  
units any longer, they can all play any region DVDs irrespective of  
how the optical drive is set. It would be rare to have a non-region 1  
DVD in America, but it's possible, and would be a big disadvantage to  
Apple DVD Player since it can only play region 1 DVDs (assuming your  
DVD unit is set to region 1 as it normally would be).


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Re: No "apple dvd player"

[Bill Connelly]

On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:



On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:19 PM, John Carmonne wrote:



On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

here's one of things that I should know where to look for, but I'm  
stumped


I have no "Apple DVD Player" in the applications folder where it  
should be. (Leopard 10.5.8), how can I get it? Jeff  (and yes,  
I've recently added an optical drive to this MDD dual 1.42)




Use spotlight to find it. It somehow got moved. Or reinstall the  
system??



John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP

		John, reinstalling the system isn't really an option.. I think  
what happened was the OS was installed from another dvd drive and  
somehow the installer saw there was no dvd drive and "left it off"  
of the install. I know there's a way of using a piece of software to  
install it from the leopard install disk, but I forget the name of  
it off the top of my head. sounds like "pacifier" Jeff


Pacifist at:
http://www.charlessoft.com/

Good Luck

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Re: No "apple dvd player"

[cad]

On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:



On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:19 PM, John Carmonne wrote:



On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

here's one of things that I should know where to look for, but  
I'm stumped


I have no "Apple DVD Player" in the applications folder where it  
should be. (Leopard 10.5.8), how can I get it? Jeff  (and yes,  
I've recently added an optical drive to this MDD dual 1.42)




Use spotlight to find it. It somehow got moved. Or reinstall the  
system??



John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP

		John, reinstalling the system isn't really an option.. I think  
what happened was the OS was installed from another dvd drive and  
somehow the installer saw there was no dvd drive and "left it off"  
of the install. I know there's a way of using a piece of software  
to install it from the leopard install disk, but I forget the name  
of it off the top of my head. sounds like "pacifier" Jeff


How about "Pacifist"??

Chuck Davis

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Re: No "apple dvd player"

[Jeffrey Engle]

On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:19 PM, John Carmonne wrote:



On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

here's one of things that I should know where to look for, but I'm  
stumped


I have no "Apple DVD Player" in the applications folder where it  
should be. (Leopard 10.5.8), how can I get it? Jeff  (and yes, I've  
recently added an optical drive to this MDD dual 1.42)




Use spotlight to find it. It somehow got moved. Or reinstall the  
system??



John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP

		John, reinstalling the system isn't really an option.. I think what  
happened was the OS was installed from another dvd drive and somehow  
the installer saw there was no dvd drive and "left it off" of the  
install. I know there's a way of using a piece of software to install  
it from the leopard install disk, but I forget the name of it off the  
top of my head. sounds like "pacifier" Jeff 


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Re: No "apple dvd player"

[John Carmonne]

On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

> here's one of things that I should know where to look for, but I'm stumped
> 
> I have no "Apple DVD Player" in the applications folder where it should be. 
> (Leopard 10.5.8), how can I get it? Jeff  (and yes, I've recently added an 
> optical drive to this MDD dual 1.42)
> 
> 
> 
Use spotlight to find it. It somehow got moved. Or reinstall the system??


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA
Sent from my MBP






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No "apple dvd player"

[Jeffrey Engle]

here's one of things that I should know where to look for, but I'm  
stumped


I have no "Apple DVD Player" in the applications folder where it  
should be. (Leopard 10.5.8), how can I get it? Jeff  (and yes, I've  
recently added an optical drive to this MDD dual 1.42)




Jeffrey Engle
macgu...@gmail.com

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Re: File Recovery

[Cliff Rediger]

On Apr 29, 8:42 pm, Kris Tilford  wrote:

> In my experience, Data Rescue is very thorough, and ALWAYS finds old  
> files unless the HD has be reformatted or zeroed.
>

Kris, my report was base on running only the DR "Quick Scan"

Your comments reminded me that I had other DR options, and
 I tried the DR "Deleted Files Scan".
It promised a 13+ hour run, so I'm postponing until I get back home.
Then, there's also the "Thorough Scan" option.

So, thanks for the imput and encouragement.
I'm hopeful again.
And, yes, it's a lesson learned.

Cliff

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Re: Unique database?

[Zaphod]

On Apr 29, 8:55 pm, Nestamicky  wrote:

> I want to be able to say, yes, I have that CD and can confirm if a
> particular song is on a particular CD. Eventually, this will all be
> placed in a database. So next time I search for: Jimi Hendrix, I will
> get a list of all the CDs in the database.

You might look at Disktracker: http://www.portents.com/disktracker/

Fred

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Re: Tracing hot keys

[Kris Tilford]

On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:04 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote:


Still I wonder how to reach the picture format setting without Onyx?


It's a Terminal command:




Onyx is easier for the average guy, Terminal is easier for the geeky  
guy.


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Re: File Recovery

[Cliff Rediger]

> On Apr 29, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote:
> > My SuperDuper settings call for "smart update" which mimics the
> > complete backup option
> > so all files not on the original drive must have been erased, and
> > thoroughly.
>
On Apr 29, 8:42 pm, Kris Tilford  wrote:
> I don't think your hypothesis is correct. I've used both SuperDuper  
> and Data Rescue. ,,, I don't believe that SuperDuper would have taken the 
> time to  
> zero all data on the HD unless you specified this in a preference  
> beforehand.

Thanks for that thorough response Kris.
I guess part of my trouble is that I'm not sure what happened.

Typically, I back up my boot drive to another drive that I take with
me when I travel along with the  1 TB drive.
Regrettably, I didn't look at the SD settings ("this drive to that
drive"),
but, did note that it was taking a long time to "smart update".
Still, I figured this was because I hadn't backed up for weeks, and I
don't recall it taking an hour or two.

I may have booted the TB drive when setting up, not sure. But, almost
certainly didn't do anything else.
>
> Also, to correctly use Data Rescue you'd need access to another clean  
> HD.

I understand this and figure(d) I'll need another TB drive to recover.

>While you may be able to compile a list of recoverable files using  
> a smaller HD,

That's what I thought and hoped. But I don't see anything in the
recoverable files that look like my lost files.
>   
> I still think there SHOULD be MANY recoverable files using Data Rescue  

At your prompt, I'm going to look again

> UNLESS the HD was zeroed, and zeroing a 1TB HD is a fairly long  
> process that's not normally part of a SuperDuper backup.

right. Thank you
Cliff

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Re: Tracing hot keys

[Cliff Rediger]

On Apr 29, 8:28 pm, Cliff Rediger  wrote:
> Is there a way to trace the hot keys to the app. ?

On Apr 29, 8:45 pm, "Michael G.M."  wrote:
> Maybe this is Snapz ProX?

I have Snapz ProX installed. sweet app and very useful for motion
screen capture
but not the app in this case, different hot keys.

On Apr 29, 8:42 pm, Brian Christmas  wrote:
> Onyx (under the Parameters/General menu) can alter the built in screen 
> capture to a wide range of formats. I personally use PNG.

Santa got it right.
Since I have Onyx I found the settings. Had mine to .jpg
and this explains why on my intimate's iBook it makes .png s

On Apr 30, 6:09 am, Geke  wrote:
> You can look in Apple Help at topics "Shortcuts for taking pictures of the 
> screen"

Also a good link, thanks Geke, as some variations on the commans-
shift-4  capture option.

Still I wonder how to reach the picture format setting without Onyx?

Thanks for all the helpful suggestions.
Cliff

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Re: Right group for questions about exporting from G4 QS to a Macbook SL

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 30, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Apr 29, 2010, at 7:48 PM, dorayme wrote:

On Mar 9, 7:53 am, Bruce Johnson   
wrote:

On Mar 8, 2010, at 2:44 PM, dorayme wrote:


Thanks *very much* for this, just what I wanted to know! Good, one
less thing to worry about then.


Also, if your needs for Windows programs don't include gaming-type
performance, consider getting the open source VirtualBox instead of
one of the commercial VM systems.



I'm using it at home and it's quite good.



I began using it today. It takes only about a quarter of a  20" LCD
widescreen? Is there some way to make it bigger? Is this limitation
also something that Fusion and Parallels have?


In Virtual Box, you make the Windows screen larger by increasing the  
screen resolution inside of Windows (right-click on the Windows  
desktop and choose Properties > Settings)



And in thinking some more about it I realized that I'd neglected to  
install the VIrtualBox Guest Additions (in the Mac menu) on my Mac  
here, which enables the same autosizing that the $$ competitors do.  
Once those are enabled you have a Virtual Box menu item "Auto-Resize  
Guest Display".


When you do get riun the Guest Additions script in Windows, you will  
get an error that it isn't signed for XP compatibility, continue anyway.



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Re: Right group for questions about exporting from G4 QS to a Macbook SL

[Bruce Johnson]

On Apr 29, 2010, at 7:48 PM, dorayme wrote:


On Mar 9, 7:53 am, Bruce Johnson  wrote:

On Mar 8, 2010, at 2:44 PM, dorayme wrote:


Thanks *very much* for this, just what I wanted to know! Good, one
less thing to worry about then.


Also, if your needs for Windows programs don't include gaming-type
performance, consider getting the open source VirtualBox instead of
one of the commercial VM systems.



I'm using it at home and it's quite good.



I began using it today. It takes only about a quarter of a  20" LCD
widescreen? Is there some way to make it bigger? Is this limitation
also something that Fusion and Parallels have?


In Virtual Box, you make the Windows screen larger by increasing the  
screen resolution inside of Windows (right-click on the Windows  
desktop and choose Properties > Settings)


Here's mine



In windows it's set to 1152 x 864, and this is my 20" imac's main  
screen (which is set to 1680x1050)


VMWare and Parallels will automatically reset the Windows screen  
resolution when you resize the window on the Mac.


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Re: Tracing hot keys

[Geke]

Dan is right: the standard stuff is built in, and Grab adds things
like timed screenshots.
You can look in Apple Help at topics "Shortcuts for taking pictures of
the screen" and "Taking pictures of your screen with Grab" (that’s the
names in Tiger).
They suggest converting the tiff pictures with Preview.
Geke

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