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2010-09-10 Thread Stephen Conrad
Firefox 3.6.9 is out. Got notified soon after I updated Safari

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Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac

2010-09-10 Thread Iamanamma

  It is definitely formatted correctly,

 I think you're wrong. I believe you're confusing file system type and  
 partition map type? You probably have the correct file system (HFS+  
 journalled), but the wrong partition map type (should be Apple  
 partition map, you probably have Master Boot Record or GUID?). This  
 will cause the installer to give the error message you've seen OS X  
 can't be installed on this computer.

 When partitioning the HD, you select the partition map type under the  
 Options button within the Partition tab of Disk Utility.

Okay, this is what I've got:

Open Disk Utility
shows

233.8 GB Maxtor 6B25050
Untitled
5.7 GB MatshitaDVD-R
Mac OS X Install Disk 1

Click Erase tab
Default Choice is

Mac OS Extended(Journaled)
Name: Untitled

Click Partition Tab
shows

Partition: Volume Scheme: Current
Name: Untitled
Format: Mac OS Extended(Journaled)
Size: 233.64 GB

I don't have an Options button, but the box where the partition
format is stated is a drop down menu.  I don't have options for
Master Boot Record or GUID  Are you and I talking the same
versions of OSX?  I'm trying to restore a White Plastic PowerPC iMac
G5 to its original 10.4 (Tiger) software.

The REALLY weird thing thing is, I had a Retail Tiger Install disk
in my collection, but it was an upgrade disk.  Out of desperation, I
started up from it.  It loaded, and did not tell me it could not
install the software on this computer.  It just got upset because it
couldn't find 10.3 to upgrade.  Sigh.  I can't install 10.3 on this
iMac because it requires 10.4.2 minimum to run.

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Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac

2010-09-10 Thread Iamanamma


On Sep 9, 8:14 pm, gifutiger gifuti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings,

 Iamanamma, it sounds like you have tried everything, however if I my
 suggest,

 1. Reboot and do a PRAM reset.
 2. Reboot and do a NVRAM reset.
 3. Reboot to Install disk.
 4. Not sure about 10.4.x as I've never had that version, however on
 10.3.x and 10.5.x there is an install option that says Erase and
 Install As far as I know that option will format the disk to be
 installed the best way for the install.

 Cheers

How do you do a NVRAM reset?

I can't even get to the install options.  The error message stops me
right after I choose English as my language.

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Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac

2010-09-10 Thread John Carmonne

On Sep 10, 2010, at 6:25 AM, Iamanamma wrote:

 
 
 On Sep 9, 8:14 pm, gifutiger gifuti...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 Iamanamma, it sounds like you have tried everything, however if I my
 suggest,
 
 1. Reboot and do a PRAM reset.
 2. Reboot and do a NVRAM reset.
 3. Reboot to Install disk.
 4. Not sure about 10.4.x as I've never had that version, however on
 10.3.x and 10.5.x there is an install option that says Erase and
 Install As far as I know that option will format the disk to be
 installed the best way for the install.
 
 Cheers
 
 How do you do a NVRAM reset?
 
 I can't even get to the install options.  The error message stops me
 right after I choose English as my language.
 \

You have to pick at least one partition to get the option to fix the partition 
map. Try again you're almost there:-)

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
carmo...@aol.com




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Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac

2010-09-10 Thread Iamanamma

 You have to pick at least one partition to get the option to fix the 
 partition map. Try again you're almost there:-)

 John Carmonne
 Yorba Linda CA
 92886 USA
 carmo...@aol.com

Already did that.  There is still no joy in Mudville.

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Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac

2010-09-10 Thread Ashgrove
FWIW, the exact same thing happened to me with a G3 iBook. Everything
was right (formatting, the CDs), yet I couldn't install the software.
I finally gave up, cloned my Pismo HDD to it using CCC (both the
10.4.11 and the 9.2.2 partitions), and it worked.

I still don't know what happened...

Felix



On Sep 9, 9:02 am, Iamanamma vsand...@neo.rr.com wrote:
 This is what I have:

 iMac G5
 Power Mac 8,1
 Power PC G5

 Install disk set Mac OS X 10.4

 When I try to install the operating system I get the following
 message:

 This software cannot be installed on this computer.

 Why not?  The hard drive has been zeroed.  These are install disks for
 a Power PC iMac G5 unit.  I have 4 PowerPC iMacs, as well as 2 Intel
 iMacs, and I am sure I did not grab the install disks for the Intel
 units.

 The disc says iMac G5 on the front of it.  What could I possibly be
 doing wrong?

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Re: Safari

2010-09-10 Thread Charles Davis

4.1.2 is for Tiger
5.0.2 is for Leopard  Snow Leopard

Downloading 5.0.2 at this time. [Damn dial-up --- going to take a  
while.]


Chuck D.


On Sep 9, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote:


The newest version, 4.1.2, is out.
Downloading it now so no idea what is changed

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Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-10 Thread Aerendel
I'm having a similar problem. Or I did. I tried to put in a pci
graphics card. Oooops. Looking at the back of the G4 - the
configuration is for AGP graphics. I had a spiffy AGP graphics card w/
256 MB of Video Ram. But it wouldn't fit into the AGP graphics slot.
now it boots and works, but it only has 16 MB of VRAM. I'm looking for
a card that fits. Should I take nice steady pictures with a tripod and
upload them to here somewhere?

-Jim

=

On Sep 9, 10:28 pm, Matt Rhinesmith platni...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey Matt, I am in the process I trying to figure this out and you might be 
  right, the only thing with this link is the card they show is red and mine 
  is green... I will figure it out, and I will try to flash this on my 
  daughters old PC Tower if that needs to be done... I do love a challenge 
  though!!! Splitting the 250g HD and getting the computer to read it will be 
  the last thing I do...

 Well, first of all, the color of the card doesn't matter at all. It's purely 
 cosmetic. Second of all, I believe there is an OpenFirmware command that will 
 allow you to read/write to a 128 GB or more drive. However, I don't know much 
 about that, so I couldn't tell you how to do it. Maybe some other listers 
 could tell you.

 Matt

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Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac

2010-09-10 Thread Kris Tilford

On Sep 10, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Iamanamma wrote:


Already did that.  There is still no joy in Mudville.


You still haven't been able to confirm that the partition map is the  
correct Apple Partition Map. I'm almost certain you're going to find  
out that you've got a HD that's formatted with Master Boot Record or  
GUID, and you're going to need to start over with a correctly  
formatted HD.


Open Disk Utility, highlight the HD (not a partition, the icon in the  
left-hand column for the entire HD) and then look in the bar at the  
bottom to the right under Partition Map Scheme. It should say Apple  
Partition Map but likely says Master Boot Record instead? To fix,  
you'll need to reformat the HD using the Partition Tab and then change  
the Volume Scheme from Current to 1 Partition and then use the  
Options button at the bottom to change the Partition Map Scheme to  
Apple Partition Map. Now your OS X should install normally without  
the warning.



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Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac

2010-09-10 Thread Iamanamma

 You still haven't been able to confirm that the partition map is the  
 correct Apple Partition Map. I'm almost certain you're going to find  
 out that you've got a HD that's formatted with Master Boot Record or  
 Open Disk Utility, highlight the HD (not a partition, the icon in the  
 left-hand column for the entire HD) and then look in the bar at the  
 bottom to the right under Partition Map Scheme. It should say Apple  
 Partition Map but likely says Master Boot Record instead? To fix,  
 you'll need to reformat the HD using the Partition Tab and then change  
 the Volume Scheme from Current to 1 Partition and then use the  
 Options button at the bottom to change the Partition Map Scheme to  
 Apple Partition Map. Now your OS X should install normally without  
 the warning.

Doesn't matter anymore.  Using TDM worked!  Installation
accomplished.  Now I am using my newly acquired TDM knowledge to
transfer the user account and all of its information from another iMac
to the one I've been working so hard to fix.

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Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac

2010-09-10 Thread Iamanamma

   What is a TDM?  

 Target Disk Mode, once known as Firewire Target Disk Mode. Boot the machine 
 up with the 'T' key held down, then connect via firewire cable to another OSX 
 system...the first computer will show up as a drive on the second.

 --
 Bruce Johnson
 University of Arizona
 College of Pharmacy
 Information Technology Group


Thank you Bruce!  That worked!

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Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac

2010-09-10 Thread onelucent
Yes, one of several reasons that has deterred me from owning an Intel  
Mac.  So many already APM-formatted great Firewire boot drives.  But  
the list of Intel-only apps keeps growing.


On Sep 10, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

You still haven't been able to confirm that the partition map is  
the correct Apple Partition Map. I'm almost certain you're going  
to find out that you've got a HD that's formatted with Master Boot  
Record or GUID, and you're going to need to start over with a  
correctly formatted HD.


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Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac

2010-09-10 Thread Kris Tilford

On Sep 10, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Iamanamma wrote:


Now I am using my newly acquired TDM knowledge to
transfer the user account and all of its information from another iMac
to the one I've been working so hard to fix.


Better be a PPC iMac. Intel and PPC don't mix in Tiger, but are  
totally mixed in Leopard, so it's hard to keep things straight,  
especially when they use different partition map schemes for the HDs.  
It is possible to make a dual boot HD for both Intel  PPC, but it  
MUST be Leopard, and it MUST have the correct partition map scheme.


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Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac

2010-09-10 Thread onelucent

Could you elaborate?  Thanks.

On Sep 10, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

It is possible to make a dual boot HD for both Intel  PPC, but it  
MUST be Leopard, and it MUST have the correct partition map scheme.


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Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac

2010-09-10 Thread John Carmonne

On Sep 10, 2010, at 3:47 PM, onelucent wrote:

 Could you elaborate?  Thanks.
 
 On Sep 10, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:
 
 It is possible to make a dual boot HD for both Intel  PPC, but it MUST be 
 Leopard, and it MUST have the correct partition map scheme.
 
You can boot only with Apple partition map. The HDD can only have one  
partition map. The GUID is preffered  by Intel but not necessary


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
carmo...@aol.com




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Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

2010-09-10 Thread Richard Gerome

   I think you can also use a PCI Video card too??? I did this in my daughters 
Compaq Pesario when she lost her video... I took one out of a parts tower I got 
her and that one didn't work either so I figured it was the AGP slot that went 
bad??? So I bought a PCI gamers card and got it back up and running!!! So I'm 
thinking I can flash this one on her Tower if it will see it??? Even though the 
slot might be bad she still had some sort of video going just a little 
distorted??? Or maybe I can take out her PCI card and put it in the G4 Power 
Mac and flash it in there or put it in her 2006 Dell (I think this is a sever? 
It is twice the size of the average PC towers I have seen) if it has an AGP 
slot??? 
   Hey Jim, About those pictures you want to attch, I don't think you should 
send them out on this thread maybe just send them to each person who would want 
to see them, to their personal emails (you can send them to me if you want) but 
ask everyone else first... Besides I think just posting the kind of video card 
it is would be good enough... 




-Original Message-
From: Aerendel jimwelling...@gmail.com
Sent: Sep 10, 2010 1:38 PM
To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Won't boot after G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades???

I'm having a similar problem. Or I did. I tried to put in a pci
graphics card. Oooops. Looking at the back of the G4 - the
configuration is for AGP graphics. I had a spiffy AGP graphics card w/
256 MB of Video Ram. But it wouldn't fit into the AGP graphics slot.
now it boots and works, but it only has 16 MB of VRAM. I'm looking for
a card that fits. Should I take nice steady pictures with a tripod and
upload them to here somewhere?

-Jim

=

On Sep 9, 10:28 pm, Matt Rhinesmith platni...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey Matt, I am in the process I trying to figure this out and you might be 
  right, the only thing with this link is the card they show is red and mine 
  is green... I will figure it out, and I will try to flash this on my 
  daughters old PC Tower if that needs to be done... I do love a challenge 
  though!!! Splitting the 250g HD and getting the computer to read it will 
  be the last thing I do...

 Well, first of all, the color of the card doesn't matter at all. It's purely 
 cosmetic. Second of all, I believe there is an OpenFirmware command that 
 will allow you to read/write to a 128 GB or more drive. However, I don't 
 know much about that, so I couldn't tell you how to do it. Maybe some other 
 listers could tell you.

 Matt



Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are 
going...

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