Re: Thinking of buying a G5 dual for PR but quick question

2010-10-08 Thread bryan adkins
That was kind of my thinking (granted I am not a computer guru but I
do know a few things).  I was also thinking I could disable one of the
CPU's (which I think is an option since it does boot to the apple logo
but just hangs there) and just run a single core which I have helped a
friend out with before.  anyways thanks for the response, and this
group is awesome lot's o info!

On Oct 7, 10:40 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2010/10/07 18:52, bryan adkins wrote:

  I am thinking of scooping up locally a powermac G5 2.0 DP PCI-X 2 with
  bad cpu it has been tested at apple and thats what the tech told the
  owner.  My question is can I purchase a different CPU like a 1.8 and
  install it?  Any help would be useful and if I'm asking a poor
  question just inform me thanks much for the help.

 I'm totally guessing here but if it is indeed a DP, and not a DC,
 running one CPU at 2.0 GHz and the other at a different speed would not
 be my first choice of 'fixes.'

 I would think that a replacement single core 2.0 GHz would be the safest
 way to go, maybe someone with more experience can elaborate on your options.

 Tina

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Re: Quicksilver issue

2010-10-08 Thread Stephen Conrad
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2010/10/07 20:37, Stephen Conrad wrote:

 As for a new PS, I'd have no idea how to install one.


 It's pretty simple really, you could say that it's plug 'n play. The
 biggest issue is making sure the connector 'latch' is released before you
 pull the connector away from the logic board. Besides that is just the
 physical mounting of the PSU.


Never replaced a PSU in anything


 If you've ever replaced an electronic ignition box in a car the process is
 very similar.


I have a mechanic who works on my car



 And of course, make sure you are grounded to the computer chassis before
 touching anything.


This goes without saying

Charles Lenington
How old is the pram battery?

No idea, I got the G4 off the LEM Swap List

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Video Card for a Digital Audio G4

2010-10-08 Thread smac0031
A month or two ago Other World was selling Radeon 7500's for $59. It
works great. I don't know if they have any more at that price.

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Re: MDD G4 Power Supply variations

2010-10-08 Thread kyhardhead
I bought a used dual-1.25 MDD about a year-and-a-half ago from a
college in Washington state, and it arrived with a dead PSU. After
checking prices for replacement PSUs (from $150-$500, at the time), I
did a lot of googling and reading about the situation. Among other
things, I learned that the 400-watt PSU was the original PSU for this
CPU, and the 360-watter was the replacement offered by Apple when the
original started dying like flies; as it turns out, the 360 wasn't
much of an improvement. The real problem was (is) just a very bad
original design, probably forced by trying to fit two GHz+ processors
into a case designed for one 350 MHz chip.

To cut to the chase, and as Dan and Ted suggest, I decided to invest
in a very-good quality 350-watt ATX PC PSU ($50 from Newegg), though
it took a bit of looking to find one that would fit the MDD case. I
rewired the harness myself - all it requires is patience and minimal
soldering skills. True enough, if you go this route, you'll not be
able to use Apple displays (unless you add a separate 28-volt PSU
brick) - but as I have no Apple displays nor plan to get any, it's not
an issue for me. So far, I've had not one second of trouble from this
arrangement - none of the very common power-up problems endemic to the
MDDs. I strongly urge anyone who experiences PSU problems with their
MDDs to just bite the bullet and replace the Apple PSU with a generic
PC ATX PSU: Much cheaper and much more reliable than the Apple-only
fixes.

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Over clocking G4

2010-10-08 Thread stevo137
I have a G4 Power PC  and I am wondering if you can over clock it and
how safe is it?

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Re: Thinking of buying a G5 dual for PR but quick question

2010-10-08 Thread ah...clem
no, no, no, and no.  (i think that's enough nos.)  the 1.8 and 2.0
models had different mobo clock speeds.  you cannot swap a 1.8 for a
2.0.  furthermore, if you replace one processor, sot only does it have
to be the same clock speed, it must be with a processor that is
identical to the other.  same apple part number, same EEE code.  then
the thermal calibration application needs to be run, which is
difficult to get your hands on if you are not an apple certified
tech.  you cannot simply remove the bad processor and run it as a
single processor machine.  it will not boot.

i knew someone who had a 2.0DP which did have a bad processor, and it
still booted anyway and ran just fine as a single processor machine
except for waking from sleep issues.  but when the dead processor
was removed, it would not boot at all.  on the other hand, i had a
machine which would not boot, and the problem turned out to be a
faulty logic board.  i'm not convinced i would put 100% faith in the
diagnosis you've gotten.

bottom line, unless you are an intermediate to advanced level tech,
with experience working on G5s, i would forget about it altogether.
sorry i can't give you better news.



On Oct 8, 1:52 am, bryan adkins bryancor...@gmail.com wrote:
 That was kind of my thinking (granted I am not a computer guru but I
 do know a few things).  I was also thinking I could disable one of the
 CPU's (which I think is an option since it does boot to the apple logo
 but just hangs there) and just run a single core which I have helped a
 friend out with before.  anyways thanks for the response, and this
 group is awesome lot's o info!

 On Oct 7, 10:40 pm, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote:



  On 2010/10/07 18:52, bryan adkins wrote:

   I am thinking of scooping up locally a powermac G5 2.0 DP PCI-X 2 with
   bad cpu it has been tested at apple and thats what the tech told the
   owner.  My question is can I purchase a different CPU like a 1.8 and
   install it?  Any help would be useful and if I'm asking a poor
   question just inform me thanks much for the help.

  I'm totally guessing here but if it is indeed a DP, and not a DC,
  running one CPU at 2.0 GHz and the other at a different speed would not
  be my first choice of 'fixes.'

  I would think that a replacement single core 2.0 GHz would be the safest
  way to go, maybe someone with more experience can elaborate on your options.

  Tina

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  Power Mac June 04, 2 GHz G5 DP, 8 GB RAM, GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256 MB
  PowerBook G4 15 Hi-Res DL-SD, 1.67 GHz G4, Radeon 9700 128 MB DDR

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Re: Thinking of buying a G5 dual for PR but quick question

2010-10-08 Thread Kris Tilford

On Oct 8, 2010, at 11:26 AM, ah...clem wrote:


i knew someone who had a 2.0DP which did have a bad processor, and it
still booted anyway and ran just fine as a single processor machine
except for waking from sleep issues.


I remember reading how you can modify the firmware with a semi- 
permanent Open Firmware command so that only one CPU is used, and this  
may take care of any sleep issues related to a bad CPU?


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Re: Over clocking G4

2010-10-08 Thread Tina K.

On 2010/10/08 10:09, stevo137 wrote:

I have a G4 Power PC  and I am wondering if you can over clock it and
how safe is it?


That depends. If you are thinking of adjusting voltage and clock timings 
in 'BIOS' the answer is no. Certain models used resisters on the logic 
board to set CPU speed, bus speed, etc… But those are older models and 
it's not as easy as overclocking in the Windows world.


And then there were some CPU upgrades available for some Mac models that 
would increase the CPU clock speed, but you were still stuck with a 
fairly slow bus speed.


There have been some successful board transplants, such as a 1.25 GHz 
board into a 1 GHz Power Mac, or a 1.25 GHz board into a 700/800 MHz iMac.


Your options depend entirely on what MODEL of Mac you have and WHICH G4 
Power PC is in it. The list can be of more help if you are more specific 
in your request.


Tina

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Re: Thinking of buying a G5 dual for PR but quick question

2010-10-08 Thread bryan adkins
I just need to get my hands on it and see what will happen when I do
the firmware command and run with a single processor, and as for
switching the processor I will just go the route of new dual's with
same model number if above doesn't work and for the thermal
calibration I do have my hands on the correct copy for this machine.

On Oct 8, 9:29 am, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:
 On Oct 8, 2010, at 11:26 AM, ah...clem wrote:

  i knew someone who had a 2.0DP which did have a bad processor, and it
  still booted anyway and ran just fine as a single processor machine
  except for waking from sleep issues.

 I remember reading how you can modify the firmware with a semi-
 permanent Open Firmware command so that only one CPU is used, and this  
 may take care of any sleep issues related to a bad CPU?

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Re: Over clocking G4

2010-10-08 Thread Mac User #330250
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Subject: Over clocking G4
Date:Freitag 08 Oktober 2010N
From:stevo137 stevo...@hotmail.com
To:  G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com

 I have a G4 Power PC  and I am wondering if you can over clock it and
 how safe is it?

Yes you can. It can be tricky. A 15% boost should be okay.

Read http://lowendmac.com/macdan/02/0624ek.html for some background 
information.

Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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My Quicksilver

2010-10-08 Thread Stephen Conrad
OK, we know the HD is dying and the Ethernet port is flakey
HOWEVER, will any ethernet card I buy at Walmart work in this thing?
Also, am getting an HD (2 if they are cheap) and was wondering if CCC
(Carbon Copy Cloner) would be OK to make me a new HD

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