Re: Option key boot?
On Mar 23, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Q: for some reason when I option key boot, the 100mhz bus hard drive doesn't appear? (yes, it has 10.4.11 on it) but it will appear in the system preferences/ startup disk as well as disk utility? why not the option boot screen? could I have a bad 100mhz bus? Have you tried the left-lower ICON, the one that re-probes for boot disks. It's possible the drive isn't ready in time during boot. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OT OT OT need a reason ?
On Mar 22, 3:09 pm, Daniel Stewart daniel.stewart...@gmail.com wrote: Not surprising that you have had hardware issues with the Intel Macs. I have been doing service work on PCs for years and that is pretty standard with intel based systems. I have to ask though with the X86 Mac what on earth was Apple thinking with Intel integrated graphics. Intel integrated GPUs were considered a joke on the Wintel side long before Apple made the switch so why got with a graphics platform that many consider to be an oxymoron especially given who Apples clients tend to be.On Mar 23, 12:44 pm, imrazor evol...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Dan, that's a very good summary for a non-coder like myself. Apple claims that Altivec is twice as fast as SSE1/2/3 at 8 flops/ cycle vs SSE's 4flops/cycle, so theoretically shouldn't a G5 be twice as fast as an Intel processor at SIMD operations at equivalent clock speeds? thank-you. QED. i rest my case. intel is junk, and the switch to intel was a HUGE step backwards for apple. and puhleeze, spare us all the stories about how fast your MacPro is compared to an MDD. that proves NOTHING. the relevant question is, how fast would a MacPro be if it used the latest G7 processor? i, for one, used apples rather than PC's for ONE reason and one reason ONLY. by a very wide margin, they outperformed comparable PCs and even PCs that were superior on paper. NOW, they DON'T. reluctantly, i bought an intelmac, hoping that the braintrust at apple would justify my faith in them by building a better blackbox using the same guts. they haven't, and it looks like they won't. you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear. i know i have to live with it, and living with it seems to me to point to abandoning apple altogether and going with a PC running either 64-bit win7 or unix. and i would even go so far as to encourage all apple users to do the same. how else will apple and SJ ever get the message? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OT OT OT need a reason ?
Ah...clem, I couldn't agree with you more on that!!! I am not too happy with my Macbook either, that I'm still using my Tibook!!! On Mar 22, 3:09 pm, Daniel Stewart daniel.stewart...@gmail.com wrote: Not surprising that you have had hardware issues with the Intel Macs. I have been doing service work on PCs for years and that is pretty standard with intel based systems. I have to ask though with the X86 Mac what on earth was Apple thinking with Intel integrated graphics. Intel integrated GPUs were considered a joke on the Wintel side long before Apple made the switch so why got with a graphics platform that many consider to be an oxymoron especially given who Apples clients tend to be.On Mar 23, 12:44 pm, imrazor evol...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Dan, that's a very good summary for a non-coder like myself. Apple claims that Altivec is twice as fast as SSE1/2/3 at 8 flops/ cycle vs SSE's 4flops/cycle, so theoretically shouldn't a G5 be twice as fast as an Intel processor at SIMD operations at equivalent clock speeds? thank-you. QED. i rest my case. intel is junk, and the switch to intel was a HUGE step backwards for apple. and puhleeze, spare us all the stories about how fast your MacPro is compared to an MDD. that proves NOTHING. the relevant question is, how fast would a MacPro be if it used the latest G7 processor? i, for one, used apples rather than PC's for ONE reason and one reason ONLY. by a very wide margin, they outperformed comparable PCs and even PCs that were superior on paper. NOW, they DON'T. reluctantly, i bought an intelmac, hoping that the braintrust at apple would justify my faith in them by building a better blackbox using the same guts. they haven't, and it looks like they won't. you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear. i know i have to live with it, and living with it seems to me to point to abandoning apple altogether and going with a PC running either 64-bit win7 or unix. and i would even go so far as to encourage all apple users to do the same. how else will apple and SJ ever get the message? Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... “Choose love and peace above all other options. Commit to the goal of unconditional love and compassion for all life, in all its expressions, and surrender all judgment to God. --- Dr. David R. Hawkins -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OT OT OT need a reason ?
On 2011/03/24 09:38, ah...clem so eloquently wrote: intel is junk, and the switch to intel was a HUGE step backwards for apple. and puhleeze, spare us all the stories about how fast your MacPro is compared to an MDD. that proves NOTHING. the relevant question is, how fast would a MacPro be if it used the latest G7 processor? Did you follow the IBM POWER links posted on this subject? The POWER CPU is HUGE and I'm guessing that it would need a huge enclosure, huge amounts of cooling, huge amounts of electricity, and cost a fortune. Look, I'm no Intel fan. Point of fact I hate Intel and always buy AMD when building a computer. But the bottom line is that I can do more in less time, and use half the electricity in the process, with my QC Mac Pro than I could with my DP G5 Power Mac. You have every right to move to Win7, unix, or any other OS of your choice. Last time I looked there was even an option or three for building an AMD Hackintosh. But your dislike of Intel, just like mine, does not make the G5 better than Nehalem. And POWER is not a viable option for a PC, it was designed for enterprise deployment. Even IBM's Cell CPU is well suited for some tasks such as graphics or some BOINC projects, but it too is not suited for PC use. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.4.11 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.6 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OT OT OT need a reason ?
On Mar 24, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Tina K. wrote: Did you follow the IBM POWER links posted on this subject? The POWER CPU is HUGE and I'm guessing that it would need a huge enclosure, huge amounts of cooling, huge amounts of electricity, and cost a fortune. forget it. ah clem has a set belief system and mere facts will not dislodge it. I'm done feeding the troll. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OT OT OT need a reason ?
At 11:31 AM -0600 3/24/2011, Tina K. wrote: Did you follow the IBM POWER links posted on this subject? The POWER CPU is HUGE and I'm guessing that it would need a huge enclosure, huge amounts of cooling, huge amounts of electricity, and cost a fortune. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/610326/PowerBook%20G5.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/610326/penguin-lust.gif - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
