Re: NDN Error message???
Yeah I just figured that out... Guess I won't worry about it then. Thanks! -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Selling upgraded Macs
www.online-convert.com converts YouTube to MOV, and fairly quickly I might add. I've been watching YouTube videos on my 300 MHz clamshell that way. Also, my 500 MHz Pismo can watch YouTube videos with almost no jerkiness at 240p. Same with my 800 MHz iMac G4, only not quite as much so. I'm think that it might be a virtual RAM thing, and when it comes to hard drive performance, my Pismo's 120 GB 5400 RPM Hitachi blows away the stock 60 GB drive in the iMac. YouTube mobile under Tiger works great as well. With Ubuntu, the clamshell could even play YouTube mobile videos streaming! HTML5 also speeds things up quite a bit. What kind of sick G4s do you have that not even a 1.25 GHz can play YouTube videos? Austin Leeds Sent from my iPad On Jun 17, 2011, at 6:06 PM, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Jun 17, 2011, at 3:54 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: Yes a G4 will not play Netflix, but other than that it will serve the average computer user. The higher end G4's WILL run Hulu, and Youtube. Actually even some of the lower end G4's, like my Dual 500MHZ run Youtube fine. If someone wants a computer 'that just works', they aren't going to want to mess with virus protection on Windows, and the constant work it would take to keep the system useable. True, a G4 system won't serve every user, but a dead Windows system won't serve any users. -Jonas I wish just once I could see the magic G4 500's that run You Tube just fine. I have G4's from G4 500, 867, 800, 1.0, 1.2, and 1.25GHz not one of them will play a smooth You Tube flick, plus the Bus speed is important on them too. Even trying to run You Tube in 240 is the closest I can tolerate, and not all You Tubes are available in 240. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Selling upgraded Macs
Aha! That's why--the 800x600 iBook and the 1024x768 Pismo! Fewer pixels to draw ought to make it easier to render. Austin Leeds Sent from my iPad On Jun 20, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jun 17, 2011, at 6:06 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I wish just once I could see the magic G4 500's that run You Tube just fine. I have G4's from G4 500, 867, 800, 1.0, 1.2, and 1.25GHz not one of them will play a smooth You Tube flick. I agree, but it may not be the CPU that's the bottleneck, it might be the GPU (video card). I've got an overclocked 1.58 GHz Mini that's constricted with the built-in 32MB Radeon 9200 video card. When the Mini is attached to an HDTV @ 1920x1080 it stutters and chokes like crazy on almost any higher resolution video (actually almost all video). If I run at a lower resolution (say 800x600 stretched) it plays much more smoothly with the same resolution videos, BUT, the ONLY native resolution that's not stretched is 1920x1080. I interpret this as 1920x1080 being roughly 2MB per frame, so the 32MB video card has room for about 16 frames, or 1/2 second HD video, so no wonder it chokes and stutters. I believe if this Mini had a large 128MB or 256MB video card the playback of video (including YouTube streams) would be significantly better, perhaps even dead smooth? I believe a slower G4 with a sufficiently large and fast video card might possibly be a magic G4, but 500MHz is a little too slow. A 1.25GHz with a fast large card might be the magic G4, but the need for Leopard will slow that now, so it appears the days of the magic G4 are indeed numbered, and soon extinct. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Interesting Problem
On Jun 20, 2011, at 12:54 AM, Sean Carroll wrote: Yeah, I remember software updates on dial-up. No fun. They were apt to turn into overnighters, and if something happened to break the connection, well... I would recommend trying again through Software Update, piece by piece this time. I did start down that road, and decided to just move on to downloading the individual 'update' packages --- and then on to using 'Download Manager' I mean, I *would,* but for the following questions 1. What's your previous history with Software Update in Leopard? Has it run before without incident? Was that a long time ago or recently? Haven't had unusual problems [Usual 'slow connection' problems, common.] 2. What's the Leopard installation/update history on your machine? That gets interesting --- I have the Leopard 10.5.8 installed on a 'Firewire' HD, and use the SAME system/installation with: Dual 2 GHz PowerPC G5, Dual 1.25 GHz PowerPC G4 (MDD), iBook G4. No problems once the connection criteria are set. Update history --- everything available till this offering --- [Except for NOT updating unused features, I.E. iTunes, etc.] 3. Have you ever run the program Monolingual in Leopard, or indeed, in a previous OS X that Leopard was installed over? That would be a yes. 4. If you go to Apple MenuAbout This Mac, is the information (including build and serial number) correct? Haven't ever had reason to question this. 5. What is your current version of Safari? 5.0.2 6. If you go to System PreferencesSoftware UpdateInstalled Updates, do you see anything that indicates that the updates that failed were already installed earlier? (Wondering if there's something going on with Software Update itself.) Nope, was more interested in ID information so I could locate the correct items in Apple's archives. 7. Any other problems with downloads or installations recently? No This is just stuff I'd be asking myself if it was my interesting problem. I'm not to be confused with an expert. JMO, but I'll take an interested 'User' over a jaded 'Guru' anytime. Chuck D. Sean Carroll slcarr...@me.com Power Mac G4 AGP Sawtooth 1.6 GHz, 2 GB RAM, SATA 750 GB hard drive, Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.8 and Tiger 10.4.11, Gigabit Ethernet M-Audio Revolution 7.1 PCI cards, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB AGP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Interesting Problem UPDATE
On Jun 19, 2011, at 9:40 PM, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: Still concerned about the 'security update' being for a 'client' [of Server/ Client], as opposed to a 'desktop' . That is OSX client versus OSX server. That is the correct version for you. -- Bruce -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Performance When Playing Camera Video on G4?
I have a Canon SX130IS and my SO has an A720. They both have the option to record video. The SX130 records 1280 X 720 @30fps in h.264 format and when it is uploaded to the Mac, it appears as a .mov file. Let's see, a spec sheet says H.264 + Linear PCM (stereo) When I play the videos (from either camera) in Quicktime they're horribly choppy. The host machine is an MDD 1.25GHz single processor. Before I go delve into the software configuration, etc. Does playing this kind of video simply require more processing power than the MDD can provide? Would dual processors make any difference? I have a 1.33GHz dual processor card from a Xserve that I could install. Anybody playing videos from their Canon camera with acceptable performance on a G4? Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Performance When Playing Camera Video on G4?
What video card do you have? Having the best cpu in the world won't matter if your video card can't keep up to process the video -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
power supply - power on?
Just curious here... on power supplies that are installed in PC's there is a bright green wire that can be connected to ground source making the power supply always on. is there such a wire in the MDD power supply that when grounded, does the same thing? and if so, what color is it? I have a power supply from an MDD that I'd like to use for bench power if possible. Jeff Jeffrey Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Performance When Playing Camera Video on G4?
At 9:25 AM -0700 6/20/2011, t...@io.com wrote: I have a Canon SX130IS and my SO has an A720. They both have the option to record video. The SX130 records 1280 X 720 @30fps in h.264 format and when it is uploaded to the Mac, it appears as a .mov file. Let's see, a spec sheet says H.264 + Linear PCM (stereo) When I play the videos (from either camera) in Quicktime they're horribly choppy. The host machine is an MDD 1.25GHz single processor. Before I go delve into the software configuration, etc. Does playing this kind of video simply require more processing power than the MDD can provide? Would dual processors make any difference? I have a 1.33GHz dual processor card from a Xserve that I could install. Anybody playing videos from their Canon camera with acceptable performance on a G4? Apple's h.264 codec, in QuickTime, is not very good. Try VLC. Use a tool such as Activity Monitor to watch the cpu and memory... fwiw, I can play some h.264 on my 933-MHz QuickSilver G4. But, depending on the compression used, sometimes it skips a bit even in VLC. My solution then is to either re-compress it, or transcribe it to something like mpeg-2, using ffmpeg. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead processor?
Okay, I checked. My Quicksilver has firmware version 4.2.5f1 (referred to as “Boot-ROM version”). Same in Mac OS 9.2. So, I should download Apple Firmware 4.2.8 Update? http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1126?viewlocale=en_US I tried it, but it is telling me this: “This version of the Power Mac G4 firmware updater is for specific Power Mac G4 models only and will not run on this computer.” So, I cannot even update the firmware! Or did I get the wrong updater? Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead processor?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Dead processor? Date:Sunday, 19. June 2011 From:peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Thee raw board is the same between the dual 800 MHz and the dual 1.0 GHz. The voltage regulators, and some other parts, are completely different. The pads which are empty on the 800 MHz are filled on the 1.0 GHz, and vice versa. Yes, that also what I saw. But the board is otherwise very similar. It makes sense that some parts like resistors and voltage regulators are different. Do you know how to update the firmware on a Quicksilver? Thanks, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead processor?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Dead processor? Date:Sunday, 19. June 2011 From:admin oneluc...@mac.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Don't know which processors are compatible, and probably mentioned or tried, but at least reset PRAM and press down PMU (??) button for new processors. Also, take out battery for 15 minutes and replace. I did all that. Thanks. I removed the battery for 10 minutes, I pressed the button next to the battery (PMU button) and I reset the PRAM (with the old processor installed and by holding Cmd-Opt-P-R) but the new processor does nothing. No chime. No PRAM zapping, no Open Firmware command prompt (Cmd-Opt- O-F). Anyway, thanks. I'll keep trying, until I finally give up and accept that the processor module is really dead. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead processor?
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Dead processor? Date:Monday, 20. June 2011 From:Valter Prahlad valter.prah...@fastwebnet.it To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Andreas, I'm no hardware expert but, even if some (or just ONE) hardware part is different, it might very well be the reason the processor doesn't work... and NOT because it's dead (like you are speculating). Might be. But since a lot of people have been successful with this specific processor upgrade, I doupt that it’s just my Mac that keeps it from running. This very Mac has run a couple of processors successfully: 1) PPC 7450 733 MHz (the lame version with no L3 cache) 2) PPC 7455B 1.4-1.467 MHz (OWC Mercury Extreme G4 1.4 GHz) 3) Dual PPC 7450 800 MHz (from top-of-the-line Quicksilver, 2001) All of them worked well. Now, the Dual 1.0 GHz from the top-of-the-line Quicksilver 2002 is said to work without problems in the original Quicksilver from 2001. At least a lot of people have had no problems with such an “upgrade”. …by now I really suspect that the processor module is simply broken… :-( It's not like a nail, that you can push it down eventually, even if it's not the right size. ;-) I know. But it’s not like it’s a different size of nail. It really should “fit”. I think you better investigate about the new processor compatibility. Putting it into the wrong Mac could even be dangerous to it. That’s what I was doing beforehand in this forum and on the internet. But, yeah, I’m still waiting for users telling me it didn’t work out for them. Thanks, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
HDMI cable signal not working G5 PowerMac
Hi I just did an over haul to my PowerMac G5. I add memory, a new driver, pci card the works. Now when I plug my hdmi cable to the back of the TV is not picking up a signal which it was connecting with not problem before the upgrade and the fan is blowing louder. Did i do something wrong?? Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Interesting Problem UPDATE (2)
Progress Safari 5.0.5 - 73.6 % downloaded, Security Update 2011-002 - 20.7 % downloaded. And time goes on!!! Chuck D. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: power supply - power on?
On Jun 20, 2:34 pm, Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious here... on power supplies that are installed in PC's there is a bright green wire that can be connected to ground source making the power supply always on. is there such a wire in the MDD power supply that when grounded, does the same thing? and if so, what color is it? I have a power supply from an MDD that I'd like to use for bench power if possible. You can check the diagrams on this page: file:///Users/Dave/Documents/Hardware/OutOfSpec.COM%20-%20Cut%20the%20red%20wire%20or%20the%20green%20one%3F!.webarchive I've started Macs by momentarily jumping the power with a ground (pins 3 4 on the MDD) but I've never let them run very long that way. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: power supply - power on?
Il giorno 21-06-2011 4:00, dc ha scritto: You can check the diagrams on this page: file:///Users/Dave/Documents/Hardware/OutOfSpec.COM%20-%20Cut%20the%20red%20wi re%20or%20the%20green%20one%3F!.webarchive It looks like you pasted a local path (i.e., on your computer), and not a valid URL (Web address). File: instead than www: -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: HDMI cable signal not working G5 PowerMac
On Jun 20, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Major Motoko wrote: Hi I just did an over haul to my PowerMac G5. I add memory, a new driver, pci card the works. Now when I plug my hdmi cable to the back of the TV is not picking up a signal which it was connecting with not problem before the upgrade and the fan is blowing louder. Did i do something wrong?? With such large changes to hardware it's always a good idea to reset the SMU and Safe Boot to reestablish the system cache files for the new hardware. I don't understand some of your description of the update. For example a new driver probably means you got a new hard drive? And pci card is a generic term, the specific card would be nice to know? Also, AFAIK no G5 came with HDMI video cards, so you shouldn't have an HDMI port unless this was part of the upgrade? The G5's vary a lot in terms of hardware specifications, so knowing the exact model would help? For now, try resetting the SMU http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1436 and then Safe Boot by holding the Shift key at startup, then restart again normally. Should be fine I think? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
SSH filebrowser client
A buddy is tired now looking for an SSH client that will allow him to browse files such as pictures directly from the server. I'm thinking he needs something that offers a thumbnail view. I thought I'd help him out, asking here. I think he's on 10.5.8. Thanks a lot! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
