Re: G5 1.8 won't boot

2011-08-09 Thread Wayne Garrett
On Monday, August 8, 2011, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote:
 At 4:23 PM -0500 8/8/2011, Wayne Garrett wrote:

 My G5 boots only to the apple logo and gets stuck.  It's fans tghen
 begin roaring!

 The power manager sets the fans to high when it's not getting further
direction from the OS.

 I tried command-option-P with no luck.

 cmd opt P R is the combo to reset the PRAM.

 I pulled the battery for a while and still no luck.

 How 'bout a fresh battery?

 I tried the option key at boot because I have a mirrored back up drive
and cannot get to the boot
 drive selection screen.  Any ideas?

 Get the power manager working first (fresh battery) and zap the pram.

 Does the machine bong properly, or beep repeatedly (how many?)?

 Perhaps pull some of the memory...

 - Dan.
 --
 - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth.

 --I



I can boot to install disk.  I think my SATA controler is broken.  This is
the second big mess up


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Re: I cloned OSX 10.4 from a G4 to a G5, and G5 doesn't boot

2011-08-09 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 8-08-2011 19:07, John Martz ha scritto:

 Why couldn't you use Firewire target mode?
Because I'm not at home, and the FW cable I have here didn't work.
Since it wasn't easy getting a new one, I thought that connecting the two
Macs over Ethernet would work.

And, in a way, it did work (and was almost as fast as FW) for the data
stuff, but it didn't for OSX. Not completely, at least.


Il giorno 8-08-2011 17:06, Dan ha scritto:

 You cannot make a complete clone via file sharing.
Oh, I didn't know that.

After all, a cable is a cable, so why CCC shouldn't do its job thru Ethernet
like it does thru FW?
Actually, I think it does: the manual states that version 3.4:
Back up to and from network volumes (e.g. AFP, SMB, via File Sharing)

Maybe my problem was that I executed the clone (CCC) from the Mac
*receiving* the data, instead that from the Mac where the cloned OSX resides
(so I hadn't all the privileges I needed to copy all the files).


Anyway, today I got a new FW cable, it worked and now my new G5 is fine and
dandy! :-D
Thanks to everybody for their advice. :-)

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Re: I cloned OSX 10.4 from a G4 to a G5, and G5 doesn't boot

2011-08-09 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Aug 9, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote:

 After all, a cable is a cable, so why CCC shouldn't do its job thru Ethernet
 like it does thru FW?
 Actually, I think it does: the manual states that version 3.4:
 Back up to and from network volumes (e.g. AFP, SMB, via File Sharing)

Because while you can back up things across ethernet, you cannot clone over a 
running OS on the target system. Firewire target mode works via the hardware; 
OSX is not running on the target computer.

This is the same reason you cannot repair the boot volume of the computer  with 
disk utility unless you boot from another volume.

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Re: I cloned OSX 10.4 from a G4 to a G5, and G5 doesn't boot

2011-08-09 Thread Valter Prahlad
Il giorno 10-08-2011 5:49, Bruce Johnson ha scritto:

 Because while you can back up things across ethernet, you cannot clone over a
 running OS on the target system.
Honestly, I cannot see why I couldn't clone OSX over a running computer,
onto an empty disk/partition (obviously, not over the boot disk): the copied
files wouldn't interfere in any way with the running OS.
(a file is just a sequence of data: wether it's system or not, until it's
activated it doesn't make any difference)

Anyway, my opinion is irrelevant (not to mention wrong! :-D ) since CCC's
author Mike Bombich answered me this way:

You can back up user files to a network volume, but the OS won't work if
you clone system files to that volume, there's too much stuff that doesn't
get preserved by the network filesystem.

So be it. Firewire or bust. ;-)

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