Mac frozen in startup
Tried to do a routine restart (for the Airport network) and my G5, dp1.8ghz has frozen. I get a a good startup bong, then screen goes gray, and spinning thingee just spins. I was able to start off a system disc, but the start up folder is not working. tried to start off the disc- without replacing the system and went to the spinner again. Is it worth it to replace the original Pram battery? (2004) I did not notice a date problem but am racking my brains to figure out what is going on. dp1.8 ghz 4 gigs ram OS 10.5.9 Jeff Bequette -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac frozen in startup
On Sep 26, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Jeff Bequette wrote: Tried to do a routine restart (for the Airport network) and my G5, dp1.8ghz has frozen. I get a a good startup bong, then screen goes gray, and spinning thingee just spins. I was able to start off a system disc, but the start up folder is not working. tried to start off the disc- without replacing the system and went to the spinner again. Try this: 1) Hold down the shift key during startup to start in safe mode, see if that works. If it does, it's common that the cache-clearing part of the safe boot will fix the problem and booting normally thereafter will work fine. 2) Hold down command-V while booting to show the verbose boot messages. At the point the spinning thingee is doing it's endless thing, it should be stuck on some line in the boot sequence; possibly an endless repeat of one or two lines, if something's foo. Let us know what those line(s) are and we can better diagnose the problem. 3) Hold down Command-S while booting to get into single user mode and run Applejack. Haven't installed Applejack? Betcha won't do THAT again! Barring a hardware issue, problems that manifest before login are typically systemic in nature, the the shotgun approach of re-installing the OS will usually fix this. The above steps are attempts to avoid this hassle. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac frozen in startup
On Sep 26, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Jeff Bequette wrote: Tried to do a routine restart (for the Airport network) and my G5, dp1.8ghz has frozen. I get a a good startup bong, then screen goes gray, and spinning thingee just spins. I was able to start off a system disc, but the start up folder is not working. tried to start off the disc- without replacing the system and went to the spinner again. Try this: 1) Hold down the shift key during startup to start in safe mode, see if that works. If it does, it's common that the cache-clearing part of the safe boot will fix the problem and booting normally thereafter will work fine. 2) Hold down command-V while booting to show the verbose boot messages. At the point the spinning thingee is doing it's endless thing, it should be stuck on some line in the boot sequence; possibly an endless repeat of one or two lines, if something's foo. Let us know what those line(s) are and we can better diagnose the problem. 3) Hold down Command-S while booting to get into single user mode and run Applejack. Haven't installed Applejack? Betcha won't do THAT again! Barring a hardware issue, problems that manifest before login are typically systemic in nature, the the shotgun approach of re-installing the OS will usually fix this. The above steps are attempts to avoid this hassle. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.8 Wed Jul 15 16:57:81 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1220.15.4/RELEASE_PPC much further down Jettionsing Kernel Linker. Resetting IOCatalouge. Matching service count = 1 Matching service count = 7 Matching service count = 7 Matching service count = 7 Matching service count = 7 Matching service count = 7 Matching service count = 9 vvPowermac7.3: stalling for module dsk03: data underreum dsk03: data underreum dsk03: data underreum dsk03: data underreum fans have come on high nothing on safe start up, command verbose was very -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac frozen in startup
On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:18 AM, jbeque...@tconl.com wrote: Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.8 Wed Jul 15 16:57:81 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1220.15.4/RELEASE_PPC much further down Jettionsing Kernel Linker. Resetting IOCatalouge. Matching service count = 1 Matching service count = 7 Matching service count = 7 Matching service count = 7 Matching service count = 7 Matching service count = 7 Matching service count = 9 vvPowermac7.3: stalling for module dsk03: data underreum dsk03: data underreum dsk03: data underreum dsk03: data underreum fans have come on high That looks a lot like a bad disk directory or a bad disk (or possibly just a corrupted kext in the wrong place.) Boot from the system disk and run Disk repair. If Disk Repair can fix it, or says there's nothing wrong, it's time to try an archiveinstall. From here what you do depends on the state of your data backups: If Disk repair cannot fix it, and your data is backed up, it's probably simpler to just reformat the drive and re-install from your backups. If all that doesn't work it's likely a failing drive and you need to replace it. If your backups AREN'T current (or at all) Get DiskWarrior and see if that will work to rebuild your directory. If THAT works, personally I'd go buy a new drive, install OS X on it and migrate the data from your old one, because very often this sort of thing is the harbinger of a failing drive, particularly if this is the original drive in the thing. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac frozen in startup
On Sep 26, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Jeff Bequette wrote: Tried to do a routine restart (for the Airport network) and my G5, dp1.8ghz has frozen. I get a a good startup bong, then screen goes gray, and spinning thingee just spins. I was able to start off a system disc, but the start up folder is not working. tried to start off the disc- without replacing the system and went to the spinner again. Is it worth it to replace the original Pram battery? (2004) I did not notice a date problem but am racking my brains to figure out what is going on. Start by running disk utility and do a disk repair on the HD. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firewire 400 not working in G5 PowerMac
Well still no success with FW400 on the G5. Kris, I downloaded the update, but I'm somewhat loath to use it as I don't think it's an OS issue: I have both Tiger on the drive it came with, and Leopard on the SATA drive I put in. FW400 works in neither - if it worked in tiger but not Leopard then I would obviously try this. I recently found a cheap generic FW400 in a box so I've tried that in place of the Belkin FW400/800 card I had in there.. (I've used one of these cheapo PC FW cards before in my Macs and they work fine in G4's) and again it shows up in System Profiler as a firewire card with driver installed., but will not talk to anything, although it powers the device (Griffin FireWave again). I just tried launching the G5 in Target Disk mode. With the FireWave plugged in via adapter to the FW800 socket, and a FW400 cable from the FireWave to my MirrorDoor G4 running Leopard, the G5 does not show up as a Target. System Profiler on the MD sees it as an unknown device.with manufature as 'AAPL. I then restarted the G5 and its System Profiler sees the G4 as a Macintosh attached to the FireWave. I have internet sharing enabled on both machines but the G5 tells me straight away that I am not connected to the internet when I launch Software Update. However this could be a red herring, as I always seem to have to futz around to get this to work!) I have just tried FW800 cable connecting the two machines, and TDM works fine, using the G5 as Target. Curious! (but not unexpected, as this was how I originally installed Leopard on the G5. (Internet connection sharing still doesn't happen though. More futzing required for that I guess!) further thought anyone? Dan. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Firewire 400 not working in G5 PowerMac
Well still no success with FW400 on the G5. Kris, I downloaded the update, but I'm somewhat loath to use it as I don't think it's an OS issue: I have both Tiger on the drive it came with, and Leopard on the SATA drive I put in. FW400 works in neither - if it worked in tiger but not Leopard then I would obviously try this. I recently found a cheap generic FW400 in a box so I've tried that in place of the Belkin FW400/800 card I had in there.. (I've used one of these cheapo PC FW cards before in my Macs and they work fine in G4's) and again it shows up in System Profiler as a firewire card with driver installed., but will not talk to anything, although it powers the device (Griffin FireWave again). I just tried launching the G5 in Target Disk mode. With the FireWave plugged in via adapter to the FW800 socket, and a FW400 cable from the FireWave to my MirrorDoor G4 running Leopard, the G5 does not show up as a Target. System Profiler on the MD sees it as an unknown device.with manufature as 'AAPL. I then restarted the G5 and its System Profiler sees the G4 as a Macintosh attached to the FireWave. I have internet sharing enabled on both machines but the G5 tells me straight away that I am not connected to the internet when I launch Software Update. However this could be a red herring, as I always seem to have to futz around to get this to work!) I have just tried FW800 cable connecting the two machines, and TDM works fine, using the G5 as Target. Curious! (but not unexpected, as this was how I originally installed Leopard on the G5. (Internet connection sharing still doesn't happen though. More futzing required for that I guess!) further thought anyone? Dan. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
