Re: G4 4s
I read a lot from people here and other places who say it runs slower on the G4 and once in a blue moon I still run a Classic application (although much less frequently now). However, It may be time to switch up to 10.5. Really thinking about making a jump to an Intel machine as soon as I can afford it. On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:48 AM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: Any thoughts about upgrading to Leo? I run 10.5.8 on my MDD G4 and it's running very well. It's the last OS that will run on PPC, and I'd expect it will stay supported longer than 10.4. I'm happy I made the jump to this. On Oct 12, 9:35 pm, Baldassare Guzzo guz...@gmail.com wrote: Will an iphone 4S work properly syncing with a G4 running 10.4.11? I have so many problems with the 3GS. Sent from planet earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 4s
Thanks. On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:09 AM, Jesse wrote: Yes you will need to update to leopard, as I have had to do the same on my mdd dual 1.25 Sent from my iPhone 4 On Oct 12, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Oct 12, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Baldassare Guzzo wrote: Will an iphone 4S work properly syncing with a G4 running 10.4.11? I have so many problems with the 3GS. Well, officially one no longer needs a Mac to synch an iPhone, since with the advent of IOS5 and iCloud, it all happens in the cloud. Synching down to a Mac that old may not work, although I suspect a lot can be done through the iCloud web interface. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/ netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime
I have a bad feeling about this... After a brief power outage yesterday I now cannot start up my Mac desktop. I get a nice chime but, a few seconds later, it chimes again and just keeps repeating the startup chime. Holding keys- option, shift-command-option-delete, command-option-o-f, etc.- has no effect, it just keeps repeating the startup chime. I've had a number of different Mac desktops over the years and I've never run across this phenomenon. Can anyone help me figure out what the problem might be? The computer was connected to a UPC battery backup surge protector at the time and I was using it; as soon as I saw the UPC alert I went to the Apple menu and shut the machine down normally. The computer is an Intel-based MacPro (1,1) but I am wondering if anyone ever had a similar problem, say with a G5 running Leopard? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime
At 6:48 AM -0700 10/14/2011, dc wrote: I have a bad feeling about this... After a brief power outage yesterday I now cannot start up my Mac desktop. I get a nice chime but, a few seconds later, it chimes again and just keeps repeating the startup chime. Holding keys- option, shift-command-option-delete, command-option-o-f, etc.- has no effect, it just keeps repeating the startup chime. I've had a number of different Mac desktops over the years and I've never run across this phenomenon. Can anyone help me figure out what the problem might be? The computer was connected to a UPC battery backup surge protector at the time and I was using it; as soon as I saw the UPC alert I went to the Apple menu and shut the machine down normally. The computer is an Intel-based MacPro (1,1) but I am wondering if anyone ever had a similar problem, say with a G5 running Leopard? wow. Never had one loop like that. bleh. Power hits. Reset the pram and nvram. http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1379 Try booting with the shift key held down. If you hold down the option key, does the boot selector come up? Disconnect all external peripherals except keyboard, mouse, and display. Perhaps try disconnecting the internal boot volume/drive, and try booting on an external? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime
On Oct 14, 10:27 am, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: Reset the pram and nvram.http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1379 Try booting with the shift key held down. If you hold down the option key, does the boot selector come up? Disconnect all external peripherals except keyboard, mouse, and display. Perhaps try disconnecting the internal boot volume/drive, and try booting on an external? Thanks for the reply, Dan. I tried disconnecting peripherals and resetting the PRAM, that's actually what the computer sounds like it's doing with the chime repeating ad nauseum. Safe boot (shift key) or boot options (option key) have no effect. The screen stays dark and the chime keeps cycling. I'll pull all the internal drives this weekend (an act of despiration) but I don't think I'm getting past the firmware startup to the point where the drives would kick in. I'm really disappointed that this seems to have been caused by the power fluctuation because I was hooked up to an APC surge/battery backup, but from what I've been seeing on the internet not many people seem to think highly of APC. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime
Il giorno 14-10-2011 16:47, dc ha scritto: I tried disconnecting peripherals and resetting the PRAM, that's actually what the computer sounds like it's doing with the chime repeating ad nauseum. Another idea: pull out the PRam battery for some hours. (ok, we are at the desperate level but, hey, who knows... ;-) Once upon a time there was a button somewhere inside Macs, that did some kind of internal setup reset (maybe resetting the Power Management Unit?). I don't know if the Mac Pro still has that button. Apart from whatever we thought, it should be either the motherboard or the power supply. But I'm no hardware expert, so don't trust me. ;-) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime
On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:47 AM, dc wrote: I'm really disappointed that this seems to have been caused by the power fluctuation because I was hooked up to an APC surge/battery backup, but from what I've been seeing on the internet not many people seem to think highly of APC. Have you tried a different keyboard? If the KB is fried, who knows what signals it's sending to the computer Well on the internet and real life experience are two different things...we have used them here for years for hundreds of systems. They work well, with the caveat that we normally spec their SmartUPS systems. The cheapest SmartUPS is around $300; but if it keeps a $10K server running, it's worth it. The low-end gear is, well, low end. The base BackUPS systems are essentially surge protectors with battery failover, heir to the fail-UNsafeness of surge protectors...eventually surge protectors stop protecting. The BackUPS Pro systems have AVR's in them, so they're better than surge protectors, but even here you have to make sure you're plugged into the battery backup plugs to get the better protection...don't laugh, I've seen it happen more than once. The SmartUPS are higher end AVR systems with battery cutover, hence the greater expense. SO yeah a lot of the criticism is justified,but it's also painted on with a broad brush,. and frankly, having tried others, even Tripp-lite, I'll take APCs over any others. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime
If this surge protector is the cause and your computer is bad it may have a warranty that might cover the repairs or replacement? Some places if it's the electric companies fault they may pay you too? -Original Message- From: dc dbc...@verizon.net Sent: Oct 14, 2011 9:48 AM To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime I have a bad feeling about this... After a brief power outage yesterday I now cannot start up my Mac desktop. I get a nice chime but, a few seconds later, it chimes again and just keeps repeating the startup chime. Holding keys- option, shift-command-option-delete, command-option-o-f, etc.- has no effect, it just keeps repeating the startup chime. I've had a number of different Mac desktops over the years and I've never run across this phenomenon. Can anyone help me figure out what the problem might be? The computer was connected to a UPC battery backup surge protector at the time and I was using it; as soon as I saw the UPC alert I went to the Apple menu and shut the machine down normally. The computer is an Intel-based MacPro (1,1) but I am wondering if anyone ever had a similar problem, say with a G5 running Leopard? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... “Choose love and peace above all other options. Commit to the goal of unconditional love and compassion for all life, in all its expressions, and surrender all judgment to God. --- Dr. David R. Hawkins -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime
That's good to hear, I hope the APC did it's job and the mobo isn't damaged. Gee, you mean I can't believe everything I read on the internet?!?!? Well on the internet and real life experience are two different things...we have used them here for years for hundreds of systems. They work well, with the caveat that we normally spec their SmartUPS systems. The cheapest SmartUPS is around $300; but if it keeps a $10K server running, it's worth it. The low-end gear is, well, low end. The base BackUPS systems are essentially surge protectors with battery failover, heir to the fail- UNsafeness of surge protectors...eventually surge protectors stop protecting. SO yeah a lot of the criticism is justified,but it's also painted on with a broad brush,. and frankly, having tried others, even Tripp-lite, I'll take APCs over any others. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime
On 10/14/11 8:27 AM, Dan wrote: At 6:48 AM -0700 10/14/2011, dc wrote: I have a bad feeling about this... After a brief power outage yesterday I now cannot start up my Mac desktop. I get a nice chime but, a few seconds later, it chimes again and just keeps repeating the startup chime. Holding keys- option, shift-command-option-delete, command-option-o-f, etc.- has no effect, it just keeps repeating the startup chime. I've had a number of different Mac desktops over the years and I've never run across this phenomenon. Can anyone help me figure out what the problem might be? The computer was connected to a UPC battery backup surge protector at the time and I was using it; as soon as I saw the UPC alert I went to the Apple menu and shut the machine down normally. The computer is an Intel-based MacPro (1,1) but I am wondering if anyone ever had a similar problem, say with a G5 running Leopard? wow. Never had one loop like that. bleh. Power hits. Reset the pram and nvram. http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1379 Try booting with the shift key held down. If you hold down the option key, does the boot selector come up? Disconnect all external peripherals except keyboard, mouse, and display. Perhaps try disconnecting the internal boot volume/drive, and try booting on an external? Could also be the power supply failing, and unable to provide enough juice to spin up the internal drives, the video card, etc. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime
You still have it plugged to UPC? If so, Try plugging it straight to wall. Possible UPC Failure... :) On Oct 14, 3:17 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote: On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 14-10-2011 16:47, dc ha scritto: I tried disconnecting peripherals and resetting the PRAM, that's actually what the computer sounds like it's doing with the chime repeating ad nauseum. Another idea: pull out the PRam battery for some hours. (ok, we are at the desperate level but, hey, who knows... ;-) Once upon a time there was a button somewhere inside Macs, that did some kind of internal setup reset (maybe resetting the Power Management Unit?). I don't know if the Mac Pro still has that button. My Mac Pro has a reset switch on the mobo just to the RAM. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA From my TiBook 667 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime
Bruce Johnson wrote: Have you tried a different keyboard? If the KB is fried, who knows what signals it's sending to the computer My thought exactly, this sounds like a bad keyboard to me. Roger Dale wrote: You still have it plugged to UPC? If so, Try plugging it straight to wall. Possible UPC Failure... :) This is also a good idea, I've had a bad UPC that cycled. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
10.3.9 hacking
Hi folks, I've just stepped over from the Panther list, which is a little slow these days. I'm in the process of hacking 10.3.9 on my G4 Mac mini to be a little more current. So far I've dropped in the graphics from Lion. I've now moved on to updating the UNIX tools, starting with GCC. I'm aiming to get some slightly more recent software working under X11. If anyone is interested I'd be happy to continue posting about my progress. Cheers! -Andrew -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
What is the Highest OSX a Digital Audio G4 can run?
I thought 10.4.11 was the most advanced OS a DA G4 can run and still use OS9 software. Lately, I'm getting the drift this isn't true. I have a 1.6ghz accelerator and 1.5Gigs of ram. It seems to run pretty good since my power surge disaster last winter. So, what is the highest OS this thing will run and still run classic stuff? Mark M. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime
Do you still have it plugged in UPC? May try plugging in wall. Possible UPC problem... :) On Oct 14, 2011, at 2:22 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote: On 10/14/11 8:27 AM, Dan wrote: At 6:48 AM -0700 10/14/2011, dc wrote: I have a bad feeling about this... After a brief power outage yesterday I now cannot start up my Mac desktop. I get a nice chime but, a few seconds later, it chimes again and just keeps repeating the startup chime. Holding keys- option, shift-command-option-delete, command-option-o-f, etc.- has no effect, it just keeps repeating the startup chime. I've had a number of different Mac desktops over the years and I've never run across this phenomenon. Can anyone help me figure out what the problem might be? The computer was connected to a UPC battery backup surge protector at the time and I was using it; as soon as I saw the UPC alert I went to the Apple menu and shut the machine down normally. The computer is an Intel-based MacPro (1,1) but I am wondering if anyone ever had a similar problem, say with a G5 running Leopard? wow. Never had one loop like that. bleh. Power hits. Reset the pram and nvram. http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1379 Try booting with the shift key held down. If you hold down the option key, does the boot selector come up? Disconnect all external peripherals except keyboard, mouse, and display. Perhaps try disconnecting the internal boot volume/drive, and try booting on an external? Could also be the power supply failing, and unable to provide enough juice to spin up the internal drives, the video card, etc. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 10.3.9 hacking
That sounds very interesting indeed. From: Andrew Owen cheve...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:48 AM Subject: 10.3.9 hacking Hi folks, I've just stepped over from the Panther list, which is a little slow these days. I'm in the process of hacking 10.3.9 on my G4 Mac mini to be a little more current. So far I've dropped in the graphics from Lion. I've now moved on to updating the UNIX tools, starting with GCC. I'm aiming to get some slightly more recent software working under X11. If anyone is interested I'd be happy to continue posting about my progress. Cheers! -Andrew -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What is the Highest OSX a Digital Audio G4 can run?
Il giorno 14-10-2011 18:25, smac0031 ha scritto: I thought 10.4.11 was the most advanced OS a DA G4 can run and still use OS9 software. Lately, I'm getting the drift this isn't true. Theoretically, the newest OSX G4 DA can run is 10.4. IIRC you could install 10.5 on it, using some hacks (I think there's plenty info on the Net). So, what is the highest OS this thing will run and still run classic stuff? OTOH, whatever Mac you're using, Classic support was dropped in 10.5. So if you still need Classic, you're stuck with 10.4. Or, you can have two (or more) partitions (or disks) on your G4, with 10.4 and 10.5 on different partitions/disks. Voilà, best of both worlds. :-) PS: I know there are different hacks for using OS9 software (like SheepShaver) but they don't seem a full solution. PPS: On you G4 DA, you can still boot into OS9. Hence, perhaps you could have 10.5 and boot into OS9 when you need using OS9 software. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What is the Highest OSX a Digital Audio G4 can run?
10.5.8 On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:25 PM, smac0031 m.smurph...@gmail.com wrote: I thought 10.4.11 was the most advanced OS a DA G4 can run and still use OS9 software. Lately, I'm getting the drift this isn't true. I have a 1.6ghz accelerator and 1.5Gigs of ram. It seems to run pretty good since my power surge disaster last winter. So, what is the highest OS this thing will run and still run classic stuff? Mark M. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- Baha Ata *baha...@gmail.com* baha...@gmail.com *Phone: 0212 343 6050* *Fax: 0212 343 6061* *Mobile: 0544 585 9102* *USA Phone: 14434504035* -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Air filter on a G5 ppc
Is there an elegant way to filter the incoming air in a ppc G5 tower? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 10.3.9 hacking
On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:48 AM, Andrew Owen wrote: Hi folks, I've just stepped over from the Panther list, which is a little slow these days. I'm in the process of hacking 10.3.9 on my G4 Mac mini to be a little more current. So far I've dropped in the graphics from Lion. I've now moved on to updating the UNIX tools, starting with GCC. I'm aiming to get some slightly more recent software working under X11. If anyone is interested I'd be happy to continue posting about my progress. well the very first thing I'd do is move up to at least 10.5.8; that will get you much more up-to-date almost immediately. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 10.3.9 hacking
Yes please keep us informed of your progress. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 10.3.9 hacking
At 15:50 -0700 10/14/11, Eric Hall wrote: That sounds very interesting indeed. From: Andrew Owen cheve...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 9:48 AM Subject: 10.3.9 hacking Hi folks, I've just stepped over from the Panther list, which is a little slow these days. I'm in the process of hacking 10.3.9 on my G4 Mac mini to be a little more current. So far I've dropped in the graphics from Lion. I've now moved on to updating the UNIX tools, starting with GCC. I'm aiming to get some slightly more recent software working under X11. If anyone is interested I'd be happy to continue posting about my progress. Cheers! Apple's 10.3.9 is the last version that allows me to continue using my SE/30 as an HFS file server. I have moved most of my serious efforts to ubuntu Linux which has little trouble communicating with my SE/30 using Stairway's NetPresenz. My G4 runs VectorWorks and I need it but that's about all. I keep hoping that the open source guise will come up with a CAD program that works. And, of course the lady of the house has a brand new iPhone 4S and runs Lion on a portable and a desktop. The best I can do is a login account on each where I can use Terminal.app. Gestures prove to me nothing more than that all iOS boxes are female. I gave up understanding the proper motions long ago. I'm preparing this on an 8500 running OS 9. It works well and I understand it. That's more than I can say about Apple's mail.app that continues to send me messages which ignore all of RFC-2822. Count me as very much interested in your efforts. -- -- From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Air filter on a G5 ppc
On Fri, 2011-10-14 at 18:59 -0400, JohnV wrote: Is there an elegant way to filter the incoming air in a ppc G5 tower? Howdy, I picture something like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fr%C3%A9d%C3% A9ric_Soulacroix_-_Elegance_Of_The_Epoque.jpg The lady is standing on a bellows that pumps air through a hepafilter. She dances daintily around and clean air is pumped through your G5 tower. Let's see video if you set it up, Ralph -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 10.3.9 hacking
On Oct 14, 2011, at 9:48 AM, Andrew Owen wrote: Hi folks, I've just stepped over from the Panther list, which is a little slow these days. I'm in the process of hacking 10.3.9 on my G4 Mac mini to be a little more current. So far I've dropped in the graphics from Lion. I've now moved on to updating the UNIX tools, starting with GCC. I'm aiming to get some slightly more recent software working under X11. If anyone is interested I'd be happy to continue posting about my progress. I don't get it? Why are you 'hacking' Panther when both Tiger Leopard will run on all the G4 Minis? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime
I'm up and running again. Thanks for all the great tips! I pulled out just about everything: RAM, PCI cards, video card, then put in the OEM video card and base RAM. While I was at it I put in a fresh PRAM battery. I found the SMC reset button just above the RAM trays, pressed it for 10 seconds. It started up normally and seems to be running well. I haven't started putting my upgrade components back in yet but I'm hoping they are all OK, I think the reset button is what really fixed things. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime
Il giorno 15-10-2011 2:31, dc ha scritto: I found the SMC reset button just above the RAM trays, pressed it for 10 seconds. It started up normally and seems to be running well. I haven't started putting my upgrade components back in yet but I'm hoping they are all OK, I think the reset button is what really fixed things. Well, it makes sense. If the SMC button is something like the PMU button (Power Management Unit), something about power screwed it up, and resetting it erased the whatever. Obviously, it's easy being philosophical after the solution is found. :-D -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
non ECC RAM?
Has anyone mixed non ECC RAM on a Mac PRO? If so was there any problems? The ECC RAM of coarse is more expensive and I'm trying to keep down the cost. I have a 2009 2.66 Quad Nehalem. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 10.3.9 hacking
At 7:48 AM -0700 10/14/2011, Andrew Owen wrote: hacking 10.3.9 on my G4 Mac mini to be a little more current. So far I've dropped in the graphics from Lion. Explain please dropped in the graphics from Lion. Lion is an x86 build and your Mini is a G4. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: What is the Highest OSX a Digital Audio G4 can run?
I have 10.5.8 on my Digital Audio Dual 533 ... got it there with CCC (Carbon Copy Cloner). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
