Re: Dashboard

[Paul Stamsen]

Previously, at 10:37 PM -0600 11/7/11,  as Kris Tilford  so eloquently wrote:
>In Tiger 10.4 you can use the app "Disable Tiger Features 1.03":
>
>

I can't seem to get rid of the little Spotlight Icon?

 Thanks,

 Paul

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Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected

[JohnCarmonne]

On Nov 8, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote:

> --  Original message  --
> Subject: Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected
> Date:Tuesday, 08. November 2011
> From:Valter Prahlad 
> To:  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
>> Il giorno 8-11-2011 20:13, Gene Henley ha scritto:
>>> I`ve been told that I should upgrade the CPU, possibly the video card,
>>> and install a sata internal drive with card.
>> 
>> Mhhh... have you considered getting an used G5?
>> Depending on the place you live in, G5s could be found as cheap as 200$.
>> 
>> A G5 would probably offer you a (wy) faster CPU, a faster video card,
>> SATA built-in... and you'd still have compatibility with all the (OSX)
>> programs you're using on the G4 (and many OS9 apps within Classic).
>> 
>> Unless you're using the G4 mostly in OS9, I would think about a G5.

I use a G4 and G5 because I need to boot OS9 but if all you need is Classic and 
can afford to buy a PM G5 then you can have Tiger and OS 9.2.2 on one  
partition and Leopard on the other. I stay with iTunes 9 on both the partitions 
so I can use the same library on both. If you upgrade to iTunes 10 on the 
Leopard partition then the Tiger wont be able to access it:-)


John Carmonne
Yorba Linda CA
92886 USA
MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem






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Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected

[Mac User #330250]

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Subject: Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected
Date:Tuesday, 08. November 2011
From:Valter Prahlad 
To:  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
> Il giorno 8-11-2011 20:13, Gene Henley ha scritto:
> > I`ve been told that I should upgrade the CPU, possibly the video card,
> > and install a sata internal drive with card.
> 
> Mhhh... have you considered getting an used G5?
> Depending on the place you live in, G5s could be found as cheap as 200$.
> 
> A G5 would probably offer you a (wy) faster CPU, a faster video card,
> SATA built-in... and you'd still have compatibility with all the (OSX)
> programs you're using on the G4 (and many OS9 apps within Classic).
> 
> Unless you're using the G4 mostly in OS9, I would think about a G5.

I have a couple of G4s and two G5s. And I can confirm that a G5 Dual 2 GHz just 
rocks with Leopard compated to a single 1.6 GHz G4 and a Dual 800 MHz G4.

When using Tiger you will still get OS 9 though Classic.

With prices going in a reasonable range and unless you don't really require 
Mac OS 9 (native), like Valter, I would also recommend getting a used G5 
rather than upgrading a G4.

Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected

[Mac User #330250]

--  Original message  --
Subject: Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected
Date:Tuesday, 08. November 2011
From:peterh...@cruzio.com
To:  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
> I would, therefore, expect that the heat sinks would be the same between
> the QS 2001 and QS 2002, within single and dual models.

They are. My heatsink from a Dual 800 MHz processor module fits perfectly on a 
Dual 1 GHz module. FYI even the module design (the placement of the parts on 
it) looks astonishing alike.


Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: looking to upgrade router at home

[Bruce Johnson]

On Nov 8, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Ralph Green wrote:

> I thought Ayesha had perished at the end of She.  I did not know she
> lived on to complain about something as trivial as video streaming.

See  
That's where I picked it up...

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Re: looking to upgrade router at home

[Ralph Green]

On Mon, 2011-11-07 at 05:26 -0600, Jeff Bequette wrote:
> This may be out of our bailiwick on this list, but here goes:
> 
> DP 1.8 G5, running Leopard 10.5.8, 4 gigs ram, hardwired into the  
> Airport extreme (saucer, model A1034)
> an iPad 1
> 2 or 3 iphones (if daughter is home)
> 2 mac laptops (when both girls are home)
> netflix via wireless (airport extreme) on the home entertainment system
> Hp 5-in-1 printer, which must be hardwired  into the computer for  
> scanning.
> Cable modem
> 
> She who must be obeyed has expressed displeasure with the Airport  
> Extremes performance, constant reboots and associated interruptions in  
> movies and playing on the iPad.
> 
 My routers lock up and need to be rebooted once in a blue moon.  If
yours do it frequently, replace them.

 I thought Ayesha had perished at the end of She.  I did not know she
lived on to complain about something as trivial as video streaming.

> Is there one that is better for a home system than others?
> Anyone had good luck with refurbished units?
> Limits:   G5 does not have an airport card, so needs hardwire  
> (currently ethernet) entry.
>   $$
> 
 Some routers do a better job than others.  For cheap devices, a Linksys
WRT54G, version 4 or less, reflashed to OpenWRT or DDWRT is about as
good as it gets.   I have a friend who used to really push a FIOS
connection regularly.  We had to go with a fancier router(about $200) to
keep the router from being the bottleneck.  So, I know the router makes
a difference.  If your cable modem is 6 MBPS or slower, a good home
router should be enough.

 The best setup is to get a router that is separate from the access
point.  The access point plugs into one of the ports on the router and
provides your your wireless connectivity.  I say this is best, but how
you use the network really affects how much difference you will notice.
I do mostly wired ethernet at home.  I typically have a dozen computers
running and connecting to the internet doing various things.  My access
point is not stressed because only wireless traffic needs to be routed
by it.  I use a couple of different wireless N routers, each flashed to
OpenWRT for performance,d security and features.  If you are doing
mostly wireless, then separating probably would not help you as much.
It sounds like you may have just one wired computer and I don't know how
busy it is relative to your total network. 

> WEP 128 bit security?  Should I assume WEP 256 is better? Or is WPA  
> adequate?
> 
As others have said WEP-256 does not exist.  ANy WEP is insecure because
the protocol is fundamentally broken.  WEP is somewhat easier on the
router computationally, but I always recommend WPA if you are going to
secure the access point.

> Will updating into the n-bands have a large increase of speed for  
> phones and laptops?
> 
 Wireless N can make a huge difference for streaming video.  Of course,
you need to have a wireless N setup on the router and the home
entertainment system.  It is not so much the speed of Wireless N as its
ability to sustain throughput in the face of other traffic.  If you have
other devices at home also using wireless G networking while you are
streaming video, then it is easy for home entertainment system to not
keep enough sustained bandwidth for video to stay perfect.  The more
devices on your network you move to N, the better, but probably updating
the home entertainment system and the access point is enough.

Good luck,
Ralph


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Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected

[Valter Prahlad]

Il giorno 8-11-2011 20:13, Gene Henley ha scritto:

> I`ve been told that I should upgrade the CPU, possibly the video card,
> and install a sata internal drive with card.

Mhhh... have you considered getting an used G5?
Depending on the place you live in, G5s could be found as cheap as 200$.

A G5 would probably offer you a (wy) faster CPU, a faster video card,
SATA built-in... and you'd still have compatibility with all the (OSX)
programs you're using on the G4 (and many OS9 apps within Classic).

Unless you're using the G4 mostly in OS9, I would think about a G5.

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Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected

[Gene Henley]

Many thanks.
I`ve been told that I should upgrade the CPU, possibly the video card,
and install a sata internal drive with card.
I`ll take the advice.
   Gene

From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected





Thanks. Is there a different heat sink?


It is, but you MUST get the dual 1.0 GHz heat sink with the dual 1.0 GHz
processor card, and it is best to get the fan unit as well.


Most definitely.

Although the form factor of the processor card is the same between single
and duals, and the bottom side is the same, the placement of the PPC chip
or PPC chips are different, so the top side is quite different.

A single processor heat sink has the provision for one centrally located
processor.

A dual processor heat sink has the provision for two offset processors.

The heat sink mount is the same.

A single processor heat sink will not cover the two processors on a dual
processor, and this is a known fact.

A dual processor heat sink possibly could be modified to cover a single
processor, but this is conjecture.

The "raw" (i.e., unpopulated) dual processor boards are identical between
the QS 2001 dual 800 MHz and the QS 2002 dual 1000 MHz, however the boards
are stuffed completely differently because of clock generator and
processor voltage regulator differences.

I would, therefore, expect that the heat sinks would be the same between
the QS 2001 and QS 2002, within single and dual models.

As always, the PPCs are run so very hot that it is important when
dismounting a processor to keep its heat sink with the processor.



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Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected

[peterhaas]

> Thanks. Is there a different heat sink?
>>
>> It is, but you MUST get the dual 1.0 GHz heat sink with the dual 1.0 GHz
>> processor card, and it is best to get the fan unit as well.

Most definitely.

Although the form factor of the processor card is the same between single
and duals, and the bottom side is the same, the placement of the PPC chip
or PPC chips are different, so the top side is quite different.

A single processor heat sink has the provision for one centrally located
processor.

A dual processor heat sink has the provision for two offset processors.

The heat sink mount is the same.

A single processor heat sink will not cover the two processors on a dual
processor, and this is a known fact.

A dual processor heat sink possibly could be modified to cover a single
processor, but this is conjecture.

The "raw" (i.e., unpopulated) dual processor boards are identical between
the QS 2001 dual 800 MHz and the QS 2002 dual 1000 MHz, however the boards
are stuffed completely differently because of clock generator and
processor voltage regulator differences.

I would, therefore, expect that the heat sinks would be the same between
the QS 2001 and QS 2002, within single and dual models.

As always, the PPCs are run so very hot that it is important when
dismounting a processor to keep its heat sink with the processor.



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Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected

[Gene Henley]

Thanks. Is there a different heat sink?
 Gene


From: 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected





I have a Quicksilver 733Mhz G$ Tiger.
Ebay has a 1gig dual up for bid.
Is it possible to upgrade to 1 gig cpu?


It is, but you MUST get the dual 1.0 GHz heat sink with the dual 1.0 GHz
processor card, and it is best to get the fan unit as well.



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Re: Quicksilver processor upgrade easier than expected

[peterhaas]

> I have a Quicksilver 733Mhz G$ Tiger.
> Ebay has a 1gig dual up for bid.
> Is it possible to upgrade to 1 gig cpu?

It is, but you MUST get the dual 1.0 GHz heat sink with the dual 1.0 GHz
processor card, and it is best to get the fan unit as well.



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Re: looking to upgrade router at home

[Jeff Bequette]

On Nov 8, 2011, at 1:03 AM, Charles Lenington wrote:


On 11/7/11 5:26 AM, Jeff Bequette wrote:

This may be out of our bailiwick on this list, but here goes:

DP 1.8 G5, running Leopard 10.5.8, 4 gigs ram, hardwired into the  
Airport extreme (saucer, model A1034)

an iPad 1
2 or 3 iphones (if daughter is home)
2 mac laptops (when both girls are home)
netflix via wireless (airport extreme) on the home entertainment  
system
Hp 5-in-1 printer, which must be hardwired  into the computer for  
scanning.

Cable modem

She who must be obeyed has expressed displeasure with the Airport  
Extremes performance, constant reboots and associated interruptions  
in movies and playing on the iPad.


Is there one that is better for a home system than others?
Anyone had good luck with refurbished units?
Limits:  G5 does not have an airport card, so needs hardwire  
(currently ethernet) entry.

   $$

WEP 128 bit security?  Should I assume WEP 256 is better? Or is WPA  
adequate?


Will updating into the n-bands have a large increase of speed for  
phones and laptops?


Is the Airport Extreme the only router? If not have you tried hard  
wiring the G5 to test?


Internet comes in via cable modem to Airport, G5 is hardwired to  
airport.


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Re: looking to upgrade router at home

[Charles Lenington]

On 11/7/11 5:26 AM, Jeff Bequette wrote:

This may be out of our bailiwick on this list, but here goes:

DP 1.8 G5, running Leopard 10.5.8, 4 gigs ram, hardwired into the 
Airport extreme (saucer, model A1034)

an iPad 1
2 or 3 iphones (if daughter is home)
2 mac laptops (when both girls are home)
netflix via wireless (airport extreme) on the home entertainment system
Hp 5-in-1 printer, which must be hardwired  into the computer for 
scanning.

Cable modem

She who must be obeyed has expressed displeasure with the Airport 
Extremes performance, constant reboots and associated interruptions in 
movies and playing on the iPad.


Is there one that is better for a home system than others?
Anyone had good luck with refurbished units?
Limits:  G5 does not have an airport card, so needs hardwire 
(currently ethernet) entry.

$$

WEP 128 bit security?  Should I assume WEP 256 is better? Or is WPA 
adequate?


Will updating into the n-bands have a large increase of speed for 
phones and laptops?


Is the Airport Extreme the only router? If not have you tried hard 
wiring the G5 to test?


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