Re: OS 8.6 submenu limit? Other questions.
On Feb 12, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Barry Levine wrote: Is there any way to increase the number of items that can be displayed in apple menu submenus? I'm not sure what the limit is, but I see that folders with a large number of items won't display them in a submenu. Please don't Reply to send an unrelated message -- it hijacks the thread. Also, consider posting your questions to the macos9 mailing list instead. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Audio
A very easy way that involves no extra work is get a self tapping skew with a
sharp point and screw it into the centre of the broke off jack plug then pull
it out { make sure the screw is thinner than the port } causes no damage and is
quick .
a lot easier than replacing the jack port .
William .
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Re: OS 8.6 submenu limit? Other questions.
On 2012/02/13 02:48, Josh Juran so eloquently wrote: Please don't Reply to send an unrelated message -- it hijacks the thread. Also, consider posting your questions to the macos9 mailing list instead. Word. I've gotten to the point that I delete hijacked threads because when I collapse the conversations I can't tell what is where. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ATI Radeon 7000 Mac Version 32MB PCI video card not recognized on Sawtooth
As some of you have suspected, the card was recognized when I plugged it in my PC. It won't display past the Windows XP startup screen, but I know that's something to do with not having the correct drivers. Bottom line: if it displays ANYTHING, it's gotta be working to some capacity. So my next course of action is to flash the ROM so that it will work in my Mac. All of the methods I've seen involve making a PC boot disk, running a utility while booted up with that disk, then transfer it over to the Mac and flash the ROM to the newest version. Is there a fairly straightforward (and as foolproof as possible) guide that someone can point me to? BTW, the guy who sold me the card apologized for it not working and refunded me all of my money saying not to worry about returning the card. So if I can get it going, it's a dbl-win. Thanks for all of the advice up to this point. On Feb 11, 6:28 pm, t...@io.com t...@prismnet.com wrote: On Feb 10, 2:17 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: It SHOULD just work, as the only difference between this and a retail Radeon 7000, iirc, was the lack of the other ports. Have you tried it on a more modern monitor than the old 19 one? It's remotely possible it's putting out a signal that won't work on the monitor, but my suspicion is that it's a dead card. I ran into a similar problem with the Radeon 7000 in a Beige G3 when I used it with a Radius Intellicolor 20e CRT monitor. Unfortunately, that was about seven years ago and I don't remember the details. There was a way for me to get it to work. And I'm not even certain it was with the Radius. Maybe it was with an IBM 18.1 LCD from 2000. At the time I suspected that it had to do with some newish, at the time, signalling system that monitors were using to signal or detect which resolutions were available. And I was able to get around it somehow. I may have done something like using a VGA to Mac adapter coupled with a Mac to VGA adapter. Or maybe booting with extensions off. Once I had the thing booted and the resolution set to a lower level things were fine. The problem appeared to be that the video card defaulted to too high of a resolution for the ones supported by the monitor, or something. It's possible I posted a question about it in one of these lists, so a search of posts back around 2002 - 2005 might turn something up. Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: adding memory to iMac G4
On Feb 12, 9:24 am, QuoVadis eelcovanv...@home.nl wrote: Hello Tina, Does the USB2.0 version use DDR memory, instead of SD-RAM of the USB 1.1 version? If so, then the topic starter has more options indeed. I'm not sure how pricey a 1GB DDR SO-DIMM is going to be.. About $30 at Newegg. Possibly less on the used market. If you have a use for 60 of them, I've seen lots being sold with a unit price of about $2 each. :-) DDR2 memory is at the sweet spot right now. 1 GB SO-DIMMs are $15 each and have been for most of the past twelve months. Jeff Walther -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 8.6 submenu limit? Other questions.
On Feb 12, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Barry Levine wrote: Another thing that's been going on: On some apps, I'll open docs using the Open dialog box. And the mac will chew on this for over a minute before displaying the list of files. When this first happened, I thought I had a freeze. Perhaps rebuilding the Desktop Database will help. Lastly, I also have a hardware/software question that maybe someone will know. Re the default Page Setup for a laserjet 2100M - it's ALWAYS US Letter Small, and defaults back to that after a session is over. I have not been able to google up a way to make US Letter the default, and stay that way. I believe that US Letter is the factory default, so setting the 2100 back to factory default (check the manual) should fix that. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 8.6 submenu limit? Other questions.
On Feb 13, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 12, 2012, at 9:43 AM, Barry Levine wrote: Lastly, I also have a hardware/software question that maybe someone will know. Re the default Page Setup for a laserjet 2100M - it's ALWAYS US Letter Small, and defaults back to that after a session is over. I have not been able to google up a way to make US Letter the default, and stay that way. I believe that US Letter is the factory default, so setting the 2100 back to factory default (check the manual) should fix that. I seem to remember having a similar issue with one of my HPs (4ml, 4m, 4000 or one of that era). The fix I remember was that you had to hold down either one of both of the Command or Control key when hitting OK when closing the page setup dialog box. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ATI Radeon 7000 Mac Version 32MB PCI video card not recognized on Sawtooth
On 13/02/2012 15:38, Jesse jesse.wm.wall...@gmail.com wrote: As some of you have suspected, the card was recognized when I plugged it in my PC. It won't display past the Windows XP startup screen, but I know that's something to do with not having the correct drivers. Bottom line: if it displays ANYTHING, it's gotta be working to some capacity. So my next course of action is to flash the ROM so that it will work in my Mac. All of the methods I've seen involve making a PC boot disk, running a utility while booted up with that disk, then transfer it over to the Mac and flash the ROM to the newest version. Is there a fairly straightforward (and as foolproof as possible) guide that someone can point me to? BTW, the guy who sold me the card apologized for it not working and refunded me all of my money saying not to worry about returning the card. So if I can get it going, it's a dbl-win. Thanks for all of the advice up to this point. First step is to id the rom chip as that will be the limiting factor in any conversion to mac - it's a quite small 8 pin soic flash memory chip and hopefully made by ST micro - and if so labelled M25P05 or M25P10 - there are other reference numbers following the first bit but ignore them. Other common flash memory providers were Atmel. The M25P05 is allegedly 64KB and the M25P10 is 128KB - the allegedly is there because many P10 chips were mislabelled as P05. Required for flashing on a PC will be a dos boot disk and a second disk containing the utilities and any roms needed. Flashrom will be ok for the utility for such an old card and no other display card is required if you 'hot flash' it while it is in use for the PC display as the rom is no longer accessed after the dos boot. FIRST save the current rom from the card - vital if anything goes pear shaped. If you have a P05 chip you can flash it with a 64KB or less reduced mac 7000 rom - or alternatively try the full 128KB mac rom to find out the size of the chip. If the rom is indeed a 64KB chip the 128KB flash will fail with an error at 65556 something odd bytes and should immediately be reflashed with the smaller 64KB mac rom - success should result in a little tune from the mobo. With the reduced mac rom it will work ok under OSX and classic but pretty awful under OS9 boot - the info to enable it in OS9 has been removed from the reduced rom. The reduced rom/chip is also not upgradeable with any ATI updates as they will try to write 128KB into a 64KB chip and kill the card - and resurrecting it will require a PC with a second display card so use the latest version reduced rom. Complete flashing info for dos commands etc should be on the mac elite wiki. All good stuff...let me know if you need any more... Pete -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ti-book won't boot from internal HD but will boot from external HD
Thanks to Dan and Kris for responses so far So what can I have done to the TiBook? The obvious candidate is the connection from HD to motherboard but it seems intact and to be firmly plugged into the mobo. Is there another bit I could have wrecked? IDE drive, yes? Still set to cable select or whatever it was originally? Put IDE SSD back into TiBook - it's on cable-select (unjumpered), as was the HD... Check the data connection. Appears intact and firmly in its socket on mobo Check the power connection. No separate power connection - this is 2·5 IDE oOo uk. Now that could give molasses a bad name! you betcha! You should zap the PRAM and reset the NVRAM whenever you're changing out hardware such as a HD. You should also boot OS X with a Safe Boot to rebuild the system caches. Hold Cmd-Opt-P-R keys for several chimes to zap the PRAM, then after one chime slide the fingers on P R over to O F so you're holding Cmd-Opt-O-F. At the Open Firmware prompt type these commands: set-defaultsReturn reset-allReturn where Return means hit the Return key. The response should be ok to the 1st command, and a restart to the 2nd command. This went as you described - but still flashing 'where's the system' folder icon after attempt to reboot. Still no sound of spinning up (but that's not likely with an SSD) Tried again with HD in place: same result, definitely no HD sound. (I've checked - the HD does make a noise when plugged into a USB port on another computer.) Upon restart, use the Option key if you wish to select the startup partition. In each OS X System boot once holding the Shift key to rebuild the system startup caches. Is it worth doing this when booting the TiBook from the SSD and/or HD when they are in external enclosures, then putting them back into the TiBook? Further suggestions also very welcome! Thanks indeed Bruce -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ti-book won't boot from internal HD but will boot from external HD
On Feb 13, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Bruce Ryan wrote: This went as you described - but still flashing 'where's the system' folder icon after attempt to reboot. Are you certain this HD is formatted correctly for a PPC Mac? The partition scheme MUST be Apple Partition Scheme and NOT GUID Partition Scheme used on Intel Macs, OR Master Boot Record Partition Scheme used on PCs. You can check the partition scheme in System ProfilerInfo. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ti-book won't boot from internal HD but will boot from external HD
On Feb 13, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Feb 13, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Bruce Ryan wrote: This went as you described - but still flashing 'where's the system' folder icon after attempt to reboot. Are you certain this HD is formatted correctly for a PPC Mac? The partition scheme MUST be Apple Partition Scheme and NOT GUID Partition Scheme used on Intel Macs, OR Master Boot Record Partition Scheme used on PCs. You can check the partition scheme in System ProfilerInfo. The drive boots the Mac when in an external enclosure, so that's not the issue. My next step would be to stick another known-functioning drive in the TiBook then booting off the external (you can get a Firewire enclosure and boot from that to speed up booting) to see if the internal drive does in fact show up. My guess is that there's either a subtle break in the cable or the IDE controller is foo in the TiBook. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ti-book won't boot from internal HD but will boot from external HD
On Feb 12, 2012, at 3:53 PM, Bruce Ryan wrote: After a few shenanigans (the SSD with which I replaced the HD became corrupted), I tried to revert to using the original HD (A 60GB fujitsu with partitions for MacOSes 10·5·8, 10·4·11 and 9·2·2. You know, rereading your inital post leads me to think that it could well be a foo controller on the motherboard; how did the SSD get corrupted? -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
PowerMac G5 not waking from sleep?
Every time I put the Mac to sleep it cuts out when waking. Then I have to unplug it let it stand awhile then reboot it. Anybody have any ideas I have tried different configurations of ram to see if that was the issue but the same thing happens. This all started when I removed the CD drives IDE cable when the Mac was switched on. If there is no fix for this is there away to disable the sleep option all together so I don't sleep the Mac by mistake. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 8.6 submenu limit? Other questions.
I changed the subject line. That always has seemed to start a new thread. On Feb 12, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Barry Levine wrote: Is there any way to increase the number of items that can be displayed in apple menu submenus? I'm not sure what the limit is, but I see that folders with a large number of items won't display them in a submenu. Please don't Reply to send an unrelated message -- it hijacks the thread. Also, consider posting your questions to the macos9 mailing list instead. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 8.6 submenu limit? Other questions.
On Feb 13, 2012, at 9:23 AM, Barry Levine wrote: I changed the subject line. That always has seemed to start a new thread. Changing the subject line does NOT start a new thread. You MUST do a completely separate New Message or else the reply will hijack the previous thread and automatically thread into the prior posting no matter what the subject line says. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G5 not waking from sleep?
On Feb 13, 2012, at 5:02 AM, Mark Langthorne wrote: Every time I put the Mac to sleep it cuts out when waking. Then I have to unplug it let it stand awhile then reboot it. Anybody have any ideas I have tried different configurations of ram to see if that was the issue but the same thing happens. This all started when I removed the CD drives IDE cable when the Mac was switched on. If there is no fix for this is there away to disable the sleep option all together so I don't sleep the Mac by mistake. What model G5 do you have? I had one do that and it wound up to be the logic board in the end, Do you have any dead ports on it? Have you reset the CUDA switch and repaired the permissions? John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacBook Pro i7 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G5 not waking from sleep?
At 5:02 AM -0800 2/13/2012, Mark Langthorne wrote: Every time I put the Mac Please provide specific model / configuration details, especially what extra cards and peripherals are attached. to sleep it cuts out when waking. Explain please cuts out. That could mean pretty much anything. Are you talking about some sort of system freeze or is there a total power loss or ? Then I have to unplug it let it stand awhile then reboot it. awhile is how long? And what happens if you try to reboot it before that time? ...We can only make vague guesses when provide vague information. Please, provide specifics. Anybody have any ideas I have tried different configurations of ram to see if that was the issue but the same thing happens. This all started when I removed the CD drives IDE cable when the Mac was switched on. IDE is not a hot swappable bus. You may have damaged that drive, the IDE bus itself, other things on the motherboard. Look for errors in the system log... often they'll point to the thing that's not properly re-initializing after a wake event. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Installing a replacement internal speaker in a G4 mdd Tower
*Thanks it's very helpful. I will give it a try.* On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:45 AM, JoeTaxpayer joetaxpaye...@gmail.comwrote: Robert - Please forgive the large file size http://www.joetaxpayer.com/robert.jpg will show you the connection. It was faster to photoshoot than to find a site showing it. Any questions, please ask. Confirm you got it ok, so I can remove it. The wire loops behind the optical drives, a bit of a pain, but you can just keep in front in you're careful. On Feb 8, 7:54 pm, Robert Lee rapcity...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to install a new replacement internal speaker and I'm having second thoughts about doing it myself. I can't even see where it connects to the motherboard. Me being visually impaired has some to do with it but it's initial installation was well done at the time of it's manufacture. Any one have a guide or know where one is posted? Thanks in advance. Robert -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 8.6 submenu limit? Other questions.
On 2012/02/13 08:23, Barry Levine so eloquently wrote: I changed the subject line. That always has seemed to start a new thread. There is a number in the headers that determines what thread a message belongs to, what the subject line contains is irrelevant. Not to pick on you in particular but it's happening more and more with each passing month. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PowerMac G5 not waking from sleep?
On 2012/02/13 06:02, Mark Langthorne so eloquently wrote: Every time I put the Mac to sleep it cuts out when waking. Then I have to unplug it let it stand awhile then reboot it. Anybody have any ideas I have tried different configurations of ram to see if that was the issue but the same thing happens. This all started when I removed the CD drives IDE cable when the Mac was switched on. Knowing the configuration, ie model, OS, etc… will allow list members to give informed advice rather than wild guesses. At this point my best guess would be to reset the pram/nvram. My iMac's display would not wake from sleep when I first got it, turned out to be bad ROM (?) flashed to the logic board. Given how old the G5s are I doubt that is your issue unless someone has recently monkeyed with it. If there is no fix for this is there away to disable the sleep option all together so I don't sleep the Mac by mistake. Sleep is controlled in the Energy Saver preference pane, you can disable it there. Tina -- Acceleron: HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro Luxo Jr: iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 Worm: PowerBook G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Quadrophenia: Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
