Re: Installing OS X leopard on a G4 733

[Mac User #330250]

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Subject: Installing OS X leopard on a G4 733
Date:Friday, 27. July 2012
From:Eddie wyman 
To:  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
> Hi,
> I'm using the following firmware code to try and trick my mac into
> upgrading to OSX 10.5,
> 
> dev /cpus/PowerPC,G4@0
> d# 86700 encode-int " clock-frequency" property
> boot cd:,\\:tbxi
> 
> However it keeps saying it can't open the CD (last line of code)!
> 
> When I continue to boot up using the "mac-boot" command the system boots up
> and show the Cd and its also sets the processor to 867.
> 
> Can anyone help?

The code for temporarily changing some Open Firmware device tree strings is 
about right, so it really should work.

You can check with the “.properties” command:
> dev /cpus/PowerPC,G4@0
.properties
> d# 86700 encode-int " clock-frequency" property
.properties
> boot cd:,\\:tbxi
(BTW, “mac-boot” plus immediately holding the Option key after hitting enter—
you ought to be fast—will give the boot selection screen.)

Try a normal boot—without the Open Firmware hack—and see if that works. It 
should boot normally, you’ll see the language selection of the Leopard 
installer and then it will tell you that “this Mac is not supported” (or 
similar).

If that works, your installation media (aka CD or DVD) is alright. Then 
there’s something else causing this message…

Did you try booting the DVD without the hack?
Does it boot normally? (hold the “C” key to boot from CD/DVD)

Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube

[Illirik Smirnov]

Yes and yes, but I think that it's probably a better idea to XPostFacto in
retail 10.5.8 in if you REALLY want Leopard, and I see no reason why you
want it on a G3. It *will* run poorly. I keep either OS9 or 10.3 on all of
my G3s (which is a small sample size, seeing as how all I have is an iMac
G3 and a Clamshell to go with it). A 350-400+MHz G3 running OS9 is a
capable machine, on 10.3 its slow but usable, on 10.4 it's barely usable; I
can't imagine it running well in 10.5.

On the other hand, this 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo Thinkpad running Linux is really
laggy right now (worse than a last-model ibook on 10.3), writing this email
in gmail. Glad I have an MBA in the mail...
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On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 5:10 AM, MaGioZal  wrote:

> On 7/22/12 6:02 AM, Kris Tilford at  wrote:
>
> > On Jul 22, 2012, at 3:15 AM, MaGioZal wrote:
> >
> >> Can this 10.5 developer version run on G3s?
> >
> > The final developer version that runs on a G3 CPU is 9a303a.
> >
> > The 9a303a version was a tiny update (via Software Update) from the
> > released 9a303, and it's unlike the update servers still offer this
> > update, so for all practical purposes 9a303 was the final G3 CPU
> > version of Leopard.
>
>
> Does this version can run Classic Environment? And would it be able to
> install via XPostFacto?
>
>
>
>
>
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eMessage Archiver

[Barry Levine]

Has anyone used this Filemaker runtime developed by John Carlsen for  
archiving emails?


Barry Levine

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Re: [G3-5]Re: G5 up and running, what about browsers?

[t...@prismnet.com]

On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:00:06 AM UTC-5, MaGioZal wrote:
>
> On 7/24/12 5:47 AM, Kris Tilford at  wrote: 
>
> > PatchBurn 4.0.5 can fix 
> > this issue in anything earlier than 10.5, so it really doesn't matter 
> > if the firmware says Apple or something else. 
>
> PatchBurn is HIGHLY recommendable for everyone who has a non-original 
> CD/DVD 
> writer and run Mac OS X versions prior to 10.5. Before installing P.B. I 
> thought my DVD writer has some kind of hardware defect because it wrote 
> CDs, 
> but almost always had problems in writing DVDs... 
>

 Did you have problems in Toast, or just with Disk Utility?  I'm having a 
problem with the Toshiba TS-T632 drive in my G4 Mini, but all the problems 
have been while using Toast, and I wouldn't think that Patchburn would 
affect that.   I need to do some more testing, but I think the drive is 
history.

Jeff Walther

P.S.  I dislike the new Google Groups interface.  Blech!   Newsgroups are 
supposed to be simple and texty, not full of CPU slowing frames and complex.

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Re: Removing GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent from login

[Geoff fleshman]

i had the same issue with safari but all i have to do is click the button
that is used to login and it lets me inother than that i have no
ideajust thought this might help

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:19 AM, geraldcornish wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Somehow recently I have clicked on something which has installed
> GoogleSoftwareUpdate and has put the Agent into my Login Items.
>
> Try as I may it just will not go away!
>
> Hiliting it in the login list and hitting the "-" below the list moves the
> hilite up one item but the GoogleSoftwareUpdateAgent stays just where it
> is. Unlocking the padlock makes no difference.
>
> I have now removed the software itself and the item now shows "unknown"
> instead of "application" but still it persists.
>
> Any ideas why this is and how to remove the agent? Does anyone know where
> the login items data is kept - could I edit that file?
>
> TIA Ged
>
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Re: Installing OS X leopard on a G4 733

[Merrill Newell]

There used to be a program called LeopardAssist that was supposed to automate 
the process of installation on unsupported hardware.  You might have a look 
around for it.  Is your Leopard install disc generic or machine (grey) 
specific?  That can also hinder a successful install.

Best,

Merrill

On 2012-07-26, at 10:25 PM, Eddie wyman  wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm using the following firmware code to try and trick my mac into upgrading 
> to OSX 10.5,
> 
> dev /cpus/PowerPC,G4@0
> d# 86700 encode-int " clock-frequency" property
> boot cd:,\\:tbxi
> 
> However it keeps saying it can't open the CD (last line of code)!   
> 
> When I continue to boot up using the "mac-boot" command the system boots up 
> and show the Cd and its also sets the processor to 867.
> 
> Can anyone help?
> 
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Re: [G3-5]Re: G5 up and running, what about browsers?

[Paul Stamsen]

On Jul 25, 2012, at 11:57  am, t...@prismnet.com wrote:

> 
> 
> On Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:00:06 AM UTC-5, MaGioZal wrote:
> 
> 
> P.S.  I dislike the new Google Groups interface.  Blech!   Newsgroups are 
> supposed to be simple and texty, not full of CPU slowing frames and complex.

 Then you'll HATE the new FB "Timeline"!!  ;)

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Re: [G3-5]Re: Mac OS X Server 1.2v3 on unsupported Power Macs, specifically: the Cube

[MaGioZal]

On 7/23/12 4:18 PM, Illirik Smirnov at  wrote:

> Yes and yes, but I think that it's probably a better idea to XPostFacto in
> retail 10.5.8 in if you REALLY want Leopard, and I see no reason why you want
> it on a G3. It *will* run poorly. I keep either OS9 or 10.3 on all of my G3s
> (which is a small sample size, seeing as how all I have is an iMac G3 and a
> Clamshell to go with it). A 350-400+MHz G3 running OS9 is a capable machine,
> on 10.3 its slow but usable, on 10.4 it's barely usable; I can't imagine it
> running well in 10.5.


But I like some challenges and experiments...;-)

I remember back in 2001 that many people said it would be practically
impossible to install and use Mac OS 9.1 on a PowerMac 6100 I had at the
time. Well, I've installed... And it worked. Slowly, but anyway, I could use
iTunes, broadband internet and CD burning (and also a 1024x768 video
resolution trough the AV card).

I put the brave 6100 (upgraded with a Sonnet G3 processor that many times
refused to work properly...) into retirement in 2006, between other things
because there was no way to install Mac OS X on it. ;-P
 




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Re: [G3-5]Re: G5 up and running, what about browsers?

[MaGioZal]

On 7/25/12 2:57 PM, t...@prismnet.com at  wrote:

>  Did you have problems in Toast, or just with Disk Utility?

My problems were basically with the burning interface of Finder.
 




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Re: [G3-5]Re: G5 up and running, what about browsers?

[MaGioZal]

On 7/27/12 4:49 PM, Paul Stamsen at  wrote:

>> P.S.  I dislike the new Google Groups interface.  Blech!   Newsgroups are
>> supposed to be simple and texty, not full of CPU slowing frames and complex.
> 
>  Then you'll HATE the new FB "Timeline"!!  ;)

Well, first I was confused with the FB timeline, but with some time I'e got
used to it -- because there are no way to turn back to the old interface,
anyway...
 




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Re: [G3-5]Re: G5 up and running, what about browsers?

[Cameron Kaiser]

> P.S.  I dislike the new Google Groups interface.  Blech!   Newsgroups are 
> supposed to be simple and texty, not full of CPU slowing frames and complex.

Yeah, it's terrible. It's not even good on the office Core i5, and it's
way too slow for the iMac G4.

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Re: [G3-5]Re: G5 up and running, what about browsers?

[MaGioZal]

On 7/28/12 1:51 AM, Cameron Kaiser at  wrote:

>> P.S.  I dislike the new Google Groups interface.  Blech!   Newsgroups are
>> supposed to be simple and texty, not full of CPU slowing frames and complex.
> 
> Yeah, it's terrible. It's not even good on the office Core i5, and it's
> way too slow for the iMac G4.

The Yahooization of Google.
 




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