Missing file and failure to launch
This is an odd one, at least for me. I'm using two 2 tb sata drives behind a seritek internal card on my ancient G4 Mystic, and backing up (clone) via Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) manually every two weeks or so. My everyday drive, WD2, is one of 2 partitions, my backup drive uses none, with 10.4.11 PPC on both. I've let WD2 get a bit to full on occasion lately (less than 20 gb free space at times). Safari crashes (not that unusual these days) and won't relaunch. I try all the usual trashing of preferences, caches, plugins, etc, reboot and run applejack to no avail. Then itunes won't launch. Boot up the backup drive and all is well there. Run disk warrior on WD2 with no major problems found. Try replacing the offending apps from the backup and reboot into WD2 to no avail. Run Disk Utility to recheck permissions, check The Google for solutions no luck. In desperation and running out of time, I decide to clone over my most important files with CCC, leaving the Application folder and system files unchecked,,, CCC won't boot. Other apps, including apples preview, text edit, are still launching and working fine. I reboot the backup and run CCC, attempting to clone over emails and recent work/files using WD2 as source (not recommended,,, what a mess!). CCC warns me and doesn't clone over system files and apps. When done, CCC displays an error message saying there were problems with the attributes of a /.vol file. I check the WD2 drive with the venerable FindPro and Word 5.1 (able to find and sometimes open invisible files and folders), and lo and behold, no .vol file at root level or anywhere else for that matter. When checking the backup drive I found an alias for a .vol file at root. If I knew how to use the terminal or the exact nature of this .vol file/alias, I'd be willing to try and copy it over from my backup, but I have reached the upper layers of my incompetence and need the help of the experts Please ? Thanks,,, be back this evening. -- -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator
On Aug 8, 2014, at 9:36 PM, Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote: How to run Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as a PPC G5 emulator You cannot. You can get it running in PearPC on a Windows VM in Virtualbox, but it's very limited in functionality, since you cannot (or at least I could not) ever get the virtual networking to work. Far better and simpler to find a used G5 to run it on... -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator
On Aug 17, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Fabian Fang f...@mac.com wrote: On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Aug 8, 2014, at 11:36 PM, Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote: How to run Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as a PPC G5 emulator Why would anyone want to emulate a PPC G5 when the real Intel build of 10.4.11 is available? http://support.apple.com/kb/DL172 Mac OS X 10.4.11 Combo Update (Intel) The 2012 Mac mini came with OS 10.8.1 pre-installed. I do not believe that it will run 10.4.11 directly, which may be why the OP asked about emulation. I think he was referring to running the intel version of 10.4 in a VM via VirtualBox, which is a pita in and of itself. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are. B. Banzai, PhD -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator
...or maybe the latest Intel machine that will boot on Snow Leopard running Rossetta. JT On Aug 18, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Aug 8, 2014, at 9:36 PM, Mullin9 ddavidmul...@inbox.com wrote: How to run Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as a PPC G5 emulator You cannot. You can get it running in PearPC on a Windows VM in Virtualbox, but it's very limited in functionality, since you cannot (or at least I could not) ever get the virtual networking to work. Far better and simpler to find a used G5 to run it on... -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator
On Aug 18, 2014, at 11:04 AM, James E. Therrault wrote: ...or maybe the latest Intel machine that will boot on Snow Leopard running Rossetta. In my message of yesterday, I already indicated that The 2012 Mac mini came with OS 10.8.1 pre-installed. It will not boot on Snow Leopard. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator
On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Fabian Fang f...@mac.com wrote: In my message of yesterday, I already indicated that The 2012 Mac mini came with OS 10.8.1 pre-installed. It will not boot on Snow Leopard. I think from my hackintosh experience that this should be a fairly simple hack to enable older Mac OS X to boot. You'd need to edit one of the .plist files, perhaps the boot.plist or PlatformSupport.plist, to add in the newer Mac identification. Once you've done that, the problems would be newer hardware. These would require editing the info.plist files within similar older hardware kexts to hopefully enable support of the newer hardware. It would be a long shot, but I think there's a chance of it working. You'd need to start with a previously installed completely upgraded System disk, then mod the file for the Mac model and attempt boot with some boot flags, probably -x -v to start with. If it panics, note the kext that's causing the panic, and see if you can either find a newer kext, or modify an older one to support the newer hardware PID VID. This could be very problematic, and getting full functionality may be difficult or impossible. Finding a cheap or free older Mac would likely take less time and effort. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator
On Aug 18, 2014, at 12:33 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Aug 18, 2014, at 1:38 PM, Fabian Fang f...@mac.com wrote: In my message of yesterday, I already indicated that The 2012 Mac mini came with OS 10.8.1 pre-installed. It will not boot on Snow Leopard. Since I wrote the above, James has written me privately, and I have responded to him: A 2012 Mac mini, with OS 10.8 or higher, can be made to run OS 10.6.x through a Virtual Machine with Snow Leopard Server software within Parallels Desktop, or VM Fusion, or similar. But then we are back to the OP's emulation inquiry, and perhaps into the why bother? category. Fabian -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mac OS 10.4.11 in 2012 Mac Mini, using VirtualBos as G5 emulator
On Aug 18, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Fabian Fang wrote: On Aug 18, 2014, at 11:04 AM, James E. Therrault wrote: ...or maybe the latest Intel machine that will boot on Snow Leopard running Rossetta. In my message of yesterday, I already indicated that The 2012 Mac mini came with OS 10.8.1 pre-installed. It will not boot on Snow Leopard. You can Carbon Copy a 10.6.8 system to the hard drive and it will run it. The newer machines will only boot via installer with the original or later system. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
