Re: Old PPC mac turns into an ethernet storage device.
On 11/27/11 10:19 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Is there a way to use an old G5 power mac as an ethernet disk? just like you would use an ethernet attached hard drive? no monitor, keyboard or mouse.. I know I have to have an OS on it, but other than that, nothing it needs to be seen on the LAN as a ethernet disk??? Well, simplest way is to export the drives over NFS, SMB, or AFP in OS X/X Server, then anything on the network can access it that can use one of those protocols. I have a MacPro that is pretty much essentially that - a NAS (network attached storage), hooked up over fibrechannel to a XServe RAID array. The macs on the network access its filesystems over AFP and SMB for the windows clients. Now, if you want to get creative or more complicated, you could in theory export partitions off the hard drive as iSCSI targets. Theres not much in the way of iscsi target software for the mac though. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1869065?start=0&tstart=0 GlobalSAN has a initiator which is the client side of it. But, you need a target on the G5. Not for the faint of heart really. I've got a setup like this in service with a Linux box as the target. It was a bit of a hassle to get working right and does take a bit of UNIX knowledge to do it right. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI question
On 11/16/11 10:41 AM, Brielle Bruns wrote: No. The long slots in a G4 are NOT PCI-X. The original PCI slot spec allows for a long version that requires the extra slot length. Uh, I think your confusing full length cards and regular length cards. Both of which could be PCI or PCI-X. Card length is not the same as slot length. The G4 has PCI-X slots - I have a MDD sitting here, next to me, with a PCI-X fibre channel card running in 64bit, albeit its the older PCI-X standard so it only runs 33mhz. Just confirmed this with Mactracker - there's 4 PCI-X 64bit/33mhz slots. For future reference, handy chart helping you figure out what kind of PCI slot you are looking at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PCI_Keying.png Some background on PCI-X, it was created before PCIe came into existence, as a way of giving servers and high end desktops the ability to use more high bandwidth needing devices such as fibrechannel cards. By default, PCI runs at 32bit/33mhz, which doesn't really have the bandwidth necessary to support the kind of performance the card is capable of. The extra slot length adds more bus pins - specifically the ability for the card to activate 64bit mode and the extra pins needed to do those transfers. Provided the card supports 32bit operation (which most do, albeit much slower speeds), you can take a PCI-X card and put it in a PCI slot and it will work. PCI-X also added the ability to clock the cards higher then 33mhz - both on 32bit and 64bit cards. Towards the mid to end of PCI's lifetime, regular PCI slots could have the ability to do 66mhz and higher provided the chipset supported it. Picture of a G4 MDD showing the PCI-X slots on the left hand side: http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/YU2gIgVCdH1L3hSa I believe the Quicksilver motherboards has PCI-X as well: http://www.recycledgoods.com/product_images/u/653/s_p_22951_1__73791_zoom.jpg -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI question
On 11/16/11 10:45 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Il giorno 16-11-2011 18:41, Brielle Bruns ha scritto: The G4 has PCI-X slots - I have a MDD sitting here, next to me, with a PCI-X fibre channel card running in 64bit, albeit its the older PCI-X standard so it only runs 33mhz. Just confirmed this with Mactracker - there's 4 PCI-X 64bit/33mhz slots. Uh... I thought only G5s had PCI-X. Actually my MacTracker (version 5.3) says all G4 MDD have 4 PCI (64-bit 33 MHz) and 1 AGP slots. Maybe you have a newer version of MacTracker? If its 64bit, then it has to be PCI-X. The extra 2 inches of slot size are where the extra signals necessary to support the higher speed and wider bus transfers come from. That's part of how they managed to keep backwards compatibility with regular PCI. You may be thinking of PCIe, which is in the late 2005 G5s and Intel macs, which is a completely different beast. I have MacTracker 6.1. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI question
On 11/16/11 10:32 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 16, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Brielle Bruns wrote: On 11/16/11 10:22 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are about 3 1/2" long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5" PCI-X - its fully backwards compatible with regular PCI, but can operate at 64bit and 66mhz or higher depending on chipset capabilities. More common in servers then desktop machines. No. The long slots in a G4 are NOT PCI-X. The original PCI slot spec allows for a long version that requires the extra slot length. Uh, I think your confusing full length cards and regular length cards. Both of which could be PCI or PCI-X. Card length is not the same as slot length. The G4 has PCI-X slots - I have a MDD sitting here, next to me, with a PCI-X fibre channel card running in 64bit, albeit its the older PCI-X standard so it only runs 33mhz. Just confirmed this with Mactracker - there's 4 PCI-X 64bit/33mhz slots. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PCI question
On 11/16/11 10:22 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: Why are the PCI ports on the PowerMac G4s so long? On PCs they are about 3 1/2" long but on a PowerMac G4 they are about 5" PCI-X - its fully backwards compatible with regular PCI, but can operate at 64bit and 66mhz or higher depending on chipset capabilities. More common in servers then desktop machines. Shouldn't be confused with PCIe, which is a completely different beast. :) -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: APC ES-500 Yelling Right Out of the Box
On 10/31/11 10:24 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: Yesterday purchased a new UPS ES 500 and noticed when instructed to connect battery cables they already were. Hm. When I plug in the unit it has one steady alarm. Depending on which light it may be, if it started yelling as soon as you plugged it in, its possible you have a wiring fault somewhere on that branch of your electrical circuit. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: non ECC RAM?
On 10/15/11 10:08 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Mixing ECC and non ECC, when its actually possible, doesn't cause instability.It just means that the ECC stick won't use the ECC capabilities if its on the same bank as the non-ecc. Is there a rule here as to what type of application needs ECC RAM? In the past, general rule of thumb was server motherboards and high end workstations. These days, ECC is in alot of high end desktop/gaming motherboards as well as server boards. However, in some cases, ECC ram will work fine in a non-ECC system. Not guaranteed though - and in alot of cases, non-ECC in a server system will cause the bios to complain or just not boot. Alot of the MCHs that the vendors use during the DDR era were... for lack of a better word, a hit or miss when it came to RAM types. A prime example was the Intel 8xx series that in some systems would work fine with PC2700, but not PC3200 even though they should be technically compatible. In the end, it comes down to, are you willing to spend a few extra bucks and a slight slowdown on the RAM's performance for the ability to gracefully recover from memory errors without it bringing down the whole system? If your system can use ECC, then IMHO, its worth it. If your system is mission critical, then yes, you really should be using ECC. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: non ECC RAM?
On 10/15/11 9:51 PM, Tina K. wrote: My un-educated internet research revealed that three identical sticks ran faster than two, and four sticks ran inbetween two & three stick speeds. Don't remember the url of the test unfortunately. A Google search for "triple channel ram" returns over 1,000,000 results that seem to say that there is such a thing as triple channel memory, I believe that is what is indicated by the DDR3 designation. <http://www.google.com/search?ie=utf8&oe=utf8&q=triple+channel+ram> DDR3 means 'double data rate type three' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR3_SDRAM It primarily means its an evolution of DDR2 and transfers data 2x as fast as DDR2. But yes, there appears to be triple channel memory, which is a newer technology. I've not personally come across any boards with this feature, since it seems to currently be in really high end recent boards (core i7 et al). So, yes, I stand corrected. :) -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: non ECC RAM?
On 10/15/11 7:44 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/10/14 18:52, John Carmonne wrote: Has anyone mixed non ECC RAM on a Mac PRO? If so was there any problems? The ECC RAM of coarse is more expensive and I'm trying to keep down the cost. I have a 2009 2.66 Quad Nehalem. Whether Non-ECC memory works or not, mixing ECC & Non-ECC doesn't sound like a stable set-up. Keep in mind, if you put in three matching sticks it will run in triple-channel mode; two matching sticks will run in dual-channel mode, and four matching sticks will run at a speed inbetween dual & triple-channel. Sticks of ram are done in pairs if they use interleaving to improve performance. There's no such thing as triple or quad (unless its something non-standard and obscure). 4 sticks is basically 2 banks of 2 interleaved sticks. Mixing ECC and non ECC, when its actually possible, doesn't cause instability. It just means that the ECC stick won't use the ECC capabilities if its on the same bank as the non-ecc. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No Startup, just an endlessly repeating chime
On 10/14/11 8:27 AM, Dan wrote: At 6:48 AM -0700 10/14/2011, dc wrote: I have a bad feeling about this... After a brief power outage yesterday I now cannot start up my Mac desktop. I get a nice chime but, a few seconds later, it chimes again and just keeps repeating the startup chime. Holding keys- option, shift-command-option-delete, command-option-o-f, etc.- has no effect, it just keeps repeating the startup chime. I've had a number of different Mac desktops over the years and I've never run across this phenomenon. Can anyone help me figure out what the problem might be? The computer was connected to a UPC battery backup surge protector at the time and I was using it; as soon as I saw the UPC alert I went to the Apple menu and shut the machine down normally. The computer is an Intel-based MacPro (1,1) but I am wondering if anyone ever had a similar problem, say with a G5 running Leopard? wow. Never had one loop like that. bleh. Power hits. Reset the pram and nvram. http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1379 Try booting with the shift key held down. If you hold down the option key, does the boot selector come up? Disconnect all external peripherals except keyboard, mouse, and display. Perhaps try disconnecting the internal boot volume/drive, and try booting on an external? Could also be the power supply failing, and unable to provide enough juice to spin up the internal drives, the video card, etc. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mysterious communications between two G5s
On 7/4/11 10:19 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Jul 4, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote: DRM/Copy protection. The most common way programs do this, is to send out a notice on the LAN when they start, and see if another computer responds to the request. If it does, they compare serial numbers, and refuse to run if they have matching serial numbers that only allow one use. Some listen for broadcast traffic on a specific port, others may use multicast. If this is true, then won't Little Snitch stop this cold? It might be able to, but I'm not going to encourage that if you don't have the proper licenses for the software in question. :) -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mysterious communications between two G5s
On 7/4/11 10:02 PM, Tom wrote: We have two G5s in the house, both running 10.5.8. One of them is connected to the Internet by a DSL modem (I guess you call it), an ADSL X6 made by Zoom. The telephone line runs into the modem, and the modem is connected by a wire that runs into the top port on the back of the G5 (is that an Ethernet port?). This modem has a little antenna on it that transmits the Internet connection to the second G5 in the next room, which picks up the wireless signal through a little unit with an antenna that plugs into one of its USB ports. That's all fine. But I installed Final Cut Pro 5 on both of these machines (the same serial number), and the odd thing is that if the first Mac is running FCP when the second one also tries to launch it, a message comes up on the second one that says "Another Mac is already running this program, so this copy will not launch," or something to that effect. What I don't get is, how in the heck does the second G5 in the other room have any idea what apps are running on the first Mac? I thought the modem was only transmitting the Internet connection, not information on what applications the Mac it's connected to is running. How does that second G5 know what apps are running on the first one? Can anyone enlighten me on what's going on here? DRM/Copy protection. The most common way programs do this, is to send out a notice on the LAN when they start, and see if another computer responds to the request. If it does, they compare serial numbers, and refuse to run if they have matching serial numbers that only allow one use. Some listen for broadcast traffic on a specific port, others may use multicast. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Only way to stop the sex and drug SPAM?
I'm not getting any of these spams you are talking about. Perhaps you need a better email host? We (my group) is Mac friendly and there's super strong mail filtering. Let me know if you want an account. Brielle On Jun 18, 2011, at 7:15 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: > Terminate my membership? Is this the only way to stop the sex and drug sales > e-mails from coming "from" the G3-G5 LEM List? > > I'm not getting much from the topics these days anyway ... > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?
On 6/8/11 1:28 PM, John Callahan wrote: Thanks. It's fixed. It was the screen saver. Turned it of and--- voila---, works like a charm. This used to be a major problem on the Windows side of things in the 95/98 days from my own experiences. Alot of it had to do with either crappy video cards, damaged video cards, or horrible DirectX/OpenGL drivers. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?
On 6/5/11 8:37 PM, John Callahan wrote: On Jun 5, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote: If I had to venture a guess... Turn off the screen saver and see if it stops locking up.A lot of the OSX screen savers use opengl - and if there's a problem with the graphics card, it could tickle it in the wrong way. I have disabled sleep and that seems to have solved the problem. I think the video card may be going. Care to recommend a good video card? Thanks so much for your interest and help. What's the current card that's in there? According to Mactracker, its a Rage 128 or 128 Pro. You should be able to confirm that through the system profiler. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?
If I had to venture a guess... Turn off the screen saver and see if it stops locking up. A lot of the OSX screen savers use opengl - and if there's a problem with the graphics card, it could tickle it in the wrong way. -- Brielle Bruns http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org -Original Message- From: Dan Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 14:22:27 To: Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)? At 1:05 PM -0400 6/5/2011, John Callahan wrote: >My G4 works flawlessly while I am using it but if I leave it running >it freezes and a message comes up that says "you need to restart >your computer". Anyone have any idea of what's wrong? That's a kernel panic. Check the system.log and panic log files to see exactly what died. Have you made any hardware changes to your system recently? Do you have any tasks that explicitly run when you're idle? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Xserve advice?
On 6/2/11 9:35 AM, Austin Leeds wrote: All things considered, I would go with the Mac mini if it wasn't as expensive. I've seen some really inexpensive working Xserves ($200- $300) on eBay and thought that might be the better route. I've seen the XRAID units (empty) for $99. Do they need any additional parts (other than HDDs and caddies) to get them going? The XServe RAIDs themselves do - they need 2 managers (7 drives per card), power supplies (at least one), fan trays (two). Alot of the ones I've seen on ebay and the likes are missing pieces. Plus, you can't do larger drives (500GB) in the earlier models. To actually hook them up to a computer, you need a fibre channel card for the desktop - either an Apple branded 2G one, or one with drivers under 10.4 or 10.5 (qlogic, atto, lsi). Note that 10.6 does not support the qlogics from what I've read. You'll need a PCI-X or PCIe slot regardless. You'll also need SFP 2G optics for the XServe RAID if the desktop card has integrated optics, or you'll have to use SFP to SFP cables like what the NetApps use. Each manager needs its own fibre/SFP connection to the host system as well. For a fibre channel device, its awesome, easy to setup and looks really nice in the dark. But, it is by far not what you'd call a consumer level device given its not just plug into the ethernet and it magically works. Oh, its not quiet either, and 14 drive spindles tend to generate alot of heat. :) -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Xserve advice?
On 6/2/11 8:03 AM, Austin Leeds wrote: I'm thinking of getting a Mac mini as well… eventually. But I really like the storage capacity of the Xserve. Theres no real difference between the storage cap of a XServe, a Mac Pro, or a Mac Mini with some external hard drives via USB. An XServe has, at most, what, 4 hard drives depending on the model? A Mac Pro has at least 2 internal bays (could easily be supplemented by esata and an external chassis). A Mac Mini server has two internal and USB for external drives. You could add a XServe RAID like I did to either a XServe or Mac Pro, but that's an expensive addon, and requires the use of a Fibre channel card, cabling, and PATA (there was no sata) hard drives. The other thing to note is that in quite a few cases, Xserves did not have video cards - they were designed to be remote accessed. All in all, if you want storage, go gige with a NAS - either an Airport Extreme loaded with external hard drives, or another vendor's device that can do AFP or SMB. Then, you can use whatever desktop or laptop device you want. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Default system boot drive location?
On 5/23/11 6:57 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: Just needing a confirmation here... On the powermac MDD, I'm assuming that the "system" will "look" for a startup/boot volume at the "end" or last connection of the cable plugged into the 100mhz bus? That is if no other boot volume is "blessed" ... make sense? Jeff Most systems that boot off of IDE will go Primary IDE bus master, then slave, then secondary IDE bus master, then slave. Cable position only matters if you are using cable select on the drives. I manually set them to master and slave and avoid that whole mess entirely. Then, cable position does not matter. :) -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Extracting JPEGl Files From Phone "Attachments"
On 5/9/11 5:28 PM, glen wrote: OK, by I assume you mean something like without the brackets.? And would be something like without the brackets? Yes. Easiest thing I recommend people do is create a folder on the desktop, put the files in there, then bring up a command prompt and type "cd ~/Desktop/FolderName" and run the commands in there. So if you've saved a file called 'myimage.txt' and want to change it to 'myimage.jpg', you'd do in that directory: openssl base64 -d -in myimage.txt -out myimage.jpg And the commands are in Terminal? As you may perceive I am not an experienced Terminal user. But this is very good info and if I can get it right I may be very useful for future problems. Wow, great to now the Unix shells of OS X can do so much that most of us just don't know about. Yes. Understanding how to use the command line features of OS X can make life alot easier for users and allows you to unlock alot of power user functionality. As far as this specific problem, I have found that an old version of Suffix Expander will sort through all the garbage and decode MOST of the base64 attachments (.pdf's and jpg's) -- but not ALL. The memorial program is on track to be printed on time and all the mission critical info is at hand. Thanks for all who replied: Graphic Converter --great program did not help in this odd circumstance. All who responded on of off list with the need to decode was correct. How to decode will be a good learning experience for me. I will pursue it. Great list! --glen GraphicConverter isn't really made for decoding base64/uuencoded files. Most mail clients will handle them automatically provided they are formatted correctly by the sender. Unfortunately, companies will half-ass their MIME implementation and compliant clients will not be able to properly process them. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Extracting JPEGl Files From Phone "Attachments"
On 5/8/11 9:26 PM, glen wrote: - Original Message From: Kris Tilford On May 8, 2011, at 6:04 PM, glen wrote: Most of the graphics work is done but it would be good get access to a couple of JPEG's the client has sent -- apparently from a smart phone. Why do you believe they're .jpeg format? My guess is you've got some other format. All I received are files called "Attachment 5, Attachment 6. ect. I can open them in a text editor like TextEdit or in Firefox Can't you just drag 'n drop the individual photos from TextEdit or Firefox directly onto your desktop? Then open these desktop files with something like GraphicConverter or PhotoShop. Kris, If I delete all the extraneous email headers, HTML code and actual email messages I'm left with this: --_=_NextPart_006_01CC0431.20606A80-- --_=_NextPart_005_01CC0431.20606A80 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="Eagle-Landscaping-Apr-2011.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: Eagle-Landscaping-Apr-2011.jpg Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Eagle-Landscaping-Apr-2011.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAgAAZABkAAD/7AARRHVja3kAAQAEZAAA/+4ADkFkb2JlAGTAAf/b AIQAAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQICAgICAgICAgIC AwMDAwMDAwMDAwEBAQEBAQECAQECAgIBAgIDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMD AwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMD/8AAEQgBWgIuAwERAAIRAQMRAf/EAMIAAQACAgMBAQEBAAA [Cut] this goop goes on for a number of MB's I did try saving the entire file as .jpg and opening in PhotoShop and I get the message: "Could not open "attachment6.jpeg because JPEG marker segment length is too short (file may be truncated or incomplete)." So I assume I am not selecting and saving the proper header text info for a graphic reader to open the file properly. If I drop the entire file into PS I still get the same message. Perhaps I need to add some kind of text marker to ID the file as jpeg? --glen Save the file from the start of /9j/ to the end before the --NextPart--- etc. Bring up command prompt, and do: openssl base64 -d -in -out And it will convert the file to an actual jpg from a base64 encoded attachment. Should do the trick! -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DNS Crap with Safari
On 3/6/11 12:06 AM, Dan wrote: I have never seen a dns that gave a partial response as above, containing both the response header *and* a trailer , that actually meant that I should fark off because I'm not a valid user. There is a BIG difference between a lookup failure, such as seen, vs a connection refused error. - Dan. When querying against 205.233.35.3 (which I've configured to not allow recursive queries from the test box, specifically for this test): dig @205.233.35.3 www.google.com ; <<>> DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 <<>> @205.233.35.3 www.google.com ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 43413 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.google.com.IN A ;; Query time: 59 msec ;; SERVER: 205.233.35.3#53(205.233.35.3) ;; WHEN: Sun Mar 6 00:44:15 2011 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 32 Like I said, some servers will just drop the queries on the floor. Others, like my powerdns server, in this case, does exactly the same thing that his provider's did for you (and me). dig @216.68.4.10 www.google.com ; <<>> DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 <<>> @216.68.4.10 www.google.com ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 19854 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.google.com.IN A ;; Query time: 113 msec ;; SERVER: 216.68.4.10#53(216.68.4.10) ;; WHEN: Sun Mar 6 00:47:46 2011 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 32 Only difference is that mine does SERVFAIL, where this one did REFUSED. We need him to do the query on a machine on his network, to eliminate us being outside of his provider's network as being the cause. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DNS Crap with Safari
On 3/5/11 5:28 PM, Dan wrote: At 6:26 PM -0500 3/5/2011, M Christol wrote: Was / am using (per Fuse instructions) 216.68.4.10 Broken. ; <<>> DiG 9.3.6-APPLE-P2 <<>> @216.68.4.10 www.google.com [snip] ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.google.com. IN A ;; Query time: 46 msec ;; SERVER: 216.68.4.10#53(216.68.4.10) ;; WHEN: Sat Mar 5 19:25:33 2011 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 32 Notice that there's no answer section above! Notify your ISP of this failure. Except that if your not on a network that fuse considers 'trusted' for DNS queries your not going to get anything out of it. Name servers these days for caching tend to only actually answer requests made by networks run by the network owner. For example, try that query against 205.233.35.37 (one of my caching servers). Because your not on one of my networks, you'll not get an actual answer from it. Some server types will return REFUSED, others will return nothing at all. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DNS Crap with Safari
On 3/5/11 11:03 AM, M Christol wrote: I was getting hangs & lags when loading sites with Safari. It was suggested that I put OpenDNS addresses in my network settings to fix the problem. It worked. Problem with that, tho, is that every so often OpenDNS blocks all sorts of stuff. YouTube, Vimeo, PhotoBucket, Flickr, FaceBook, MySpace, PirateBay, anything with naked people. Taking out the OpenDNS addresses fixes that but now I am back to the hangs & lags. Any ideas? You could try using either google (8.8.8.8) or Level3/Verizon's at 4.2.2.1/2/3/4... But using those means that content providers won't always delivery traffic to you from a nearby location... Looking at the headers, it seems you are on fuse.net? These are ones that may be appropriate for you to use: 216.68.1.100 216.68.2.100 216.68.4.10 216.68.5.10 But, lacking that, if your on a static IP, I could always open up one of my caching servers for querying. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Any way to convert WMV to .Mov?
You can probably use VLC in transcode mode, and set it to output to a file. Avidemux2 may also work, as might Handbrake. Brielle -- Brielle Bruns http://www.sosdg.org / http://www.ahbl.org -Original Message- From: Tom Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:36:21 To: G-Group Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Any way to convert WMV to .Mov? Some of the movies I download off the net are in WMV format, and QuickTime Player won't play them (I have QT 7.6.9 pro). Doing a web search, I find third-party utilities that will do this conversion, priced from $25 to $50, but hasn't anyone created a shareware app that can do it? Tom -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 MDD ATX mods
On 2/20/11 3:13 AM, Illirik Smirnov wrote: Newegg too. The thing is that I really wouldn't dump TOO much cash into G4s, but if the kit's $30 and I owned G4s that needed them, I'd probably buy them. Good luck! Illirik Smirnov Biggest problem I've come across to date is that unless I can find someone who makes decent sized power supplies with enough wattage and still fit inside the case, your pretty much left either modifying your case to fit it, or putting the power supply outside (which is what I usually do). I did find a few that are thin enough, but they put out 300w or less, which on a MDD, is a bad idea. Its kinda tricky, but with enough moving around, bundling, and pushing, you can fit pretty much all the cables you need for drives, mobo bundle, and the 4 pin extra bundle in the hole meant for the IEC plug on the back of the MDD. Esp. if you get a modular one that the PSU just has connectors on the back of it to plug in your own choice of cables, this works extremely well. The wire bundles aren't that difficult to make, but its one of those things where if your going to do it, you have to do it right or you'll either fry the board, damage the heat sink when a cable gets in the way, or even rip the power headers off the mobo. But, that is why I was offering to build the necessary cabling if people were interested. If I could find a vendor for the power supply, then I could probably offer to build whole power supplies - but like you said, there comes a point where you may be spending too much to keep an old machine alive. -- Brielle Bruns The Summit Open Source Development Group http://www.sosdg.org/ http://www.ahbl.org -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
G4 MDD ATX mods
Hello All, I'm actually a member of the LEM list, but I figured this would be a more appropriate place to post on given its about the G4 series. I've been working on my skills with soldering, rewiring, etc and have made really good progress with retrofitting the G4 MDD macs with ATX power supplies. I know that there was someone who was making adapter kits a while back, but he stopped doing it for one reason or another. So, my question is, if I started offering a kit/adapter for the MDD and other mac models, would anyone be interested? Its fairly trivial for me to do, and I could do something where if you sent me the wire loom from your dead power supply and let me know length, amount of hard drive power cables, etc, I'd be willing to build custom kits on request. If I could find a source for the proper molex connectors to plug into the G4 mobo, it would be even easier to build the kits. In the end, it would probably be 20-40 bucks total per kit, versus 100+ for a new power supply. I'm a big fan of the classic mac and power mac series, so bringing these machines back to life is a hobby of mine, and it just doesn't seem right not to offer my skills to help the mac community as a whole. Brielle -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
