Re: G4 laptop
If your battery is Li-ion than it will not hurt it to stay on charge. Not sure about other batteries though -Jeremiah Hello, What is the best way to operate a laptop when on the AC adapter, with the battery in place or removed? Am concerned with battery life and number of cycles. Battery is always down a little after a shut-down and restart on the power source, does this constitute a "cycle"? Thank you -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Option key boot?
Hmm... not sure why it wouldnt show up. Which format do you have the hard drive set to? I am not sure if there is really much of a difference between Mac OS Extended and Mac OS Extended (Journaled) but I always set mine to Journaled and have never had a problem. -Jeremiah From: Jeffrey Engle To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 4:23 PM Subject: Re: Option key boot? On Mar 23, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Mar 23, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: > >> >> Q: for some reason when I option key boot, the 100mhz bus hard drive doesn't >> appear? (yes, it has 10.4.11 on it) but it will appear in the system >> preferences/ startup disk as well as disk utility? why not the option boot >> screen? could I have a bad 100mhz bus? > > does it boot? If so you have a good bus. > Yes, it boots If selected in startup disk. Jeffrey Engle macgu...@gmail.com Kamiah, Idaho 83536 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flashing Video Card for G5?
Once I had a card that put out full 1080p resolution in my PowerMac G4 Quicksilver Single 800mhz. It was a great card but I cannot remember which one it was, I have about 30 cards around here for PC and Mac, so I would have to test them one by one in the PowerMac -Jeremiah From: Kris Tilford To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 1:01:54 AM Subject: Re: Flashing Video Card for G5? On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:15 AM, Alex Barnes wrote: > Oops... I meant the X1900 card. It only works with PCIe G5s though. I still suspect the PCIe X1900 will require flashing unless you get a "Mac Edition" card, and that card will be really expensive compared to a PC card. As for AGP cards, there are a lot of options available. The GeForce 7800 I posted earlier is the largest and fastest of the AGP cards that can be flashed for PPC Macs AFAIK, but there are many others with less VRAM that are slightly slower, and probably cheaper too. --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Flashing Video Card for G5?
How do you flash video cards for Mac? I have a beautiful Dual G5 and the original 64MB card isn't doing it justice. Any links to a good tutorial site or video? or even a list of instructions with your method? Thanks! -Jeremiah -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
PowerMac G4 in B/W case?
I really love the look of my PowerMac G3 B/Ws but sadly, they just are not useable anymore. As a fun project, I have two 400mhz G4s and a 700mhz G4 PowerMac that are in good working order. First off, how would the motherboards mount up? Secondly, would I need to swap Power Supplies or would the G3 work for the G4 board and vice-versa. Thanks! -Jeremiah -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
More problems with Beige G3
Hey guys, thanks for all the help on the last problem, I did get 10.2 running great on the Beige G3, so I opened it and replaced the ram with two 256MB chips on either of the outside of the 3 slots (middle slot open) like it was with the two original chips I found in there (total of 96MB, not sure size of original chips). Now when I turn it on it goes to a grey screen almost like the open firmware screen, but it keeps repeating the text ;CAN'T open; and it keeps repeating that quite a few times on the screen and then it goes to the floppy disc icon with a ? mark on it like it doesn't recognize the hard drive. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! -Jeremiah -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige PowerMac G3 266 Firmware
Well, I installed 10.2 on the hard drive via an iMac G3 and swapped the drive into the Beige G3. I also installed the PCI VGA card into the newer one from the old one but it doesn't output anything at all, no signal. I am really scratching my head here. I have an Apple to VGA adapter with DP switches for different modes. Its a Belkin F3h1381. I have a 19 inch square LCD monitor I am using and when I set it to multimode 19 inch or 1024x768 19 inch, it flashes the screen on/off on the monitor. Any tips? -Jeremiah -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige PowerMac G3 266 Firmware
I think I am going to put the hard drive back in the iMac G3 233mhz and boot into my 10.2 disc on that, and proceed to install on the hard dive from there, then just swap the hard drive into my other Beige G3. -Jeremiah From: Kenneth Peterson To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, January 13, 2011 3:44:11 PM Subject: Re: Beige PowerMac G3 266 Firmware At 11:10 AM -0700 1/13/11, Bruce Johnson wrote: > This sounds annoying like what happened to my Beige when I tried using XPF to >upgrade it. > > Never did get 10.3 to work on my Beige; that's when I upgraded to a Sawtooth >G4. I've had 10.3.9 working on my beige tower for about 4 years now. It's actually more stable than my FW800 running 10.4.11, though slower. Before that I had 10.2.8 running on it, but 10.3.9 has actually been more responsive than the older OS. If anyone needs the XpostFacto settings I'm using, I can dig them out -- I recall there was quite a bit of trial and error to get things just right. I haven't actually touched XpostFacto for several years, it's that reliable now. When I want to boot into OS9, I just hold down the "option" key. Otherwise, it'll automatically boot into 10.3.9. Just wanted to let you know that it's do-able. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige PowerMac G3 266 Firmware
Not sure what the CUDA button is. Where is it located on the machine? I think I will try it when I get home. Thanks for the tip, I hope that gets it back up and running -Jeremiah From: Bruce Johnson To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, January 13, 2011 1:10:00 PM Subject: Re: Beige PowerMac G3 266 Firmware On Jan 13, 2011, at 3:45 AM, Jeremiah Stevens wrote: > It recognized the disc and just restarted, then no video > from my VGA PCI card, so I tried the Apple Display port, when you press the > power button my monitor recognizes it for a few seconds then says no input. This sounds annoying like what happened to my Beige when I tried using XPF to upgrade it. I ended up pulling the PRAM battery overnight, pressing the CUDA button, re-inserting the battery, Pressing the CUDA button once and then I got video back. Never did get 10.3 to work on my Beige; that's when I upgraded to a Sawtooth G4. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige PowerMac G3 266 Firmware
I didnt get the other messages until now and I tried it last night. it wouldnt boot into the 10.3.9 partition so I grabbed my handy 10.2 install disc and dropped that in there. It recognized the disc and just restarted, then no video from my VGA PCI card, so I tried the Apple Display port, when you press the power button my monitor recognizes it for a few seconds then says no input I took the install disc out and I have the same behavior. Either way, I have another one with a lot more features and port on it which may make for a good candidate. I have to go now but will be home around 3:15 est. -Jeremiah From: Kris Tilford To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 10:14:25 PM Subject: Re: Beige PowerMac G3 266 Firmware On Jan 12, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Jeremiah Stevens wrote: > Thanks for the tip! I'll boot up the ol' iMac and install XpostFacto after >dinner and get with everyone with a progress report. No! Bruce was right, the Beige has the 1st 8GB restriction, you may corrupt the HD if you do this!@! In order to make this work, you'd either need to add a partition within the 1st 8GB or boot the HD from an external Firewire enclosure (only the Beige internal ATA bus has this crazy 1st 8GB restriction). There are ways to "non-destructively" add a partition, but these generally require at least Leopard or Snow Leopard to non-destructively add a partition using Disk Utility. There are other programs such as iPartition that can add a partition to a active HD. --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige PowerMac G3 266 Firmware
Thanks for the tip! I'll boot up the ol' iMac and install XpostFacto after dinner and get with everyone with a progress report. Thanks! -Jeremiah From: Kris Tilford To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 6:03:18 PM Subject: Re: Beige PowerMac G3 266 Firmware On Jan 12, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Jeremiah Stevens wrote: > I have a G3 iMac with 10.3.9 on the hard drive. would I be able to swap the >hard drive into the Beige G3 without messing anything up, because I know if >you >do that with an iMac G3 without updating firmware, it will mess up the video >driver and render the computer useless. If you install XPostFacto 4.0 (XPF4) onto the iMac 10.3.9 HD BEFORE transferring it into the Beige G3 there's a good chance it will boot OK in the Beige. XPostFacto 4.0 won't mess up the iMac HD for the iMac either, it's compatible with so-called "new world" Macs also and can be useful to enable Firewire booting on the old B&W's that didn't allow Firewire booting. --You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Beige PowerMac G3 266 Firmware
Thanks for the reply, I have a G3 iMac with 10.3.9 on the hard drive. would I be able to swap the hard drive into the Beige G3 without messing anything up, because I know if you do that with an iMac G3 without updating firmware, it will mess up the video driver and render the computer useless. Thanks! -Jeremiah From: Bruce Johnson To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, January 12, 2011 5:32:17 PM Subject: Re: Beige PowerMac G3 266 Firmware On Jan 12, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Jeremiah Stevens wrote: > Hi everyone, I am new here. I have a question relating to one of my Beige G3 > Powermacs, it is the 266mhz model with 128mb of RAM. I am looking to install > OS > > X 10.2 and I was wondering if I would need to update the firmware. Right now > I > have no idea what version the firmware is and I do not have a hard drive in > it > currently, I got it along with another one for free with no hard drive. Do I > need to install OS 9 in order to update the firmware if it is needed for OS X > 10.2? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! No you do not. In fact, the firmware on these models is not updateable (that's what the never-used firmware ROM slot is for in these systems) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Beige PowerMac G3 266 Firmware
Hi everyone, I am new here. I have a question relating to one of my Beige G3 Powermacs, it is the 266mhz model with 128mb of RAM. I am looking to install OS X 10.2 and I was wondering if I would need to update the firmware. Right now I have no idea what version the firmware is and I do not have a hard drive in it currently, I got it along with another one for free with no hard drive. Do I need to install OS 9 in order to update the firmware if it is needed for OS X 10.2? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! -Jeremiah -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list