Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 2 updates in 1 topic

[Mark Murphy]

That worked. I got a sata enclosure on ebay for about $20.

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smac0031 : Jul 27 07:13AM -0700

I have a old Intel PowerMac with os 10.11.
It wasn't compatible with my old Brother HL-1440 printer. I got around
this problem by creating a second HD with snow leopard on it. I am able
to print with this printer from snow leopard.
I installed some updates to this drive and now it has disappeared.
When this thing is in my computer it won't boot from it, the or os 
10.11 or

from an Apple Install CD.
It is unusable. How do I get this thing zeroed out so I can get it to 
work

as an HD?
Mark M
"Bruce Johnson" : Jul 27 04:47PM

On Jul 27, 2020, at 7:13 AM, smac0031 
mailto:m.smurph...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I have a old Intel PowerMac with os 10.11.
It wasn't compatible with my old Brother HL-1440 printer. I got around
this problem by creating a second HD with snow leopard on it. I am able
to print with this printer from snow leopard.
I installed some updates to this drive and now it has disappeared.
When this thing is in my computer it won't boot from it, the or os 
10.11 or from an Apple Install CD.
It is unusable. How do I get this thing zeroed out so I can get it to 
work as an HD?

Mark M

I would remove the drive, then plug it into an external USB adapter or 
case, and work on it by plugging it in after your computer is booted up.



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Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 1 update in 1 topic

[Mark Murphy]

Problem solved. I swapped the 3.6 battery from my deceased G4 which  
got the bong back.  That still didn't get it to reboot so I checked  
around and found that a USB hub was disconnected.


I have a mess here. I'm trying to move to a newer Intel Mac Pro. I  
have 3 computers, 2 monitors, 2 keyboards and a lot of other stuff in  
a big pile.


Mark M.
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My g5 won’t boot
smac0031 : Jun 02 06:34PM -0700

I put my g5 to sleep. After a couple of minutes the fans came on  
real loud. I shut it down and turned it back on. It booted up then,  
but I put it asleep again and it wouldn’t wake up. I rebooted it an  
it comes on an just sits there. This all it will do now.


I don’t know what to do. The keyboard is off my old g4. It won’t any  
commands. I tried to open the optical drive but it won’t accept any  
commands from the keyboard.


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Re: Network Troubles

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Beats me. That was a quote from another email.
Mark

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>> Software that's not compatible. TenFourFox is a great product, but it's
>> still not completely compatible with modern standards.
> 
> With respect, I'm going to call crap on this remark. Please elucidate as
> to which standard it doesn't measure up on. With the exception of WebGL
> and OpenGL, which aren't supported on every system anyway, it supports
> everything Firefox 38 ESR does.
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Re: Network Troubles

[Mark Murphy]

Thanks for the help. 
I just upgraded to tenfourfox 38.2.1 and it's noticeably slower. But there is 
other things going on because it wasn't too fast to begin with. The two slowest 
things on my network are most likely the G4 and a series 2 TiVo with a usb 
network adapter. Everything else, my tv, series 3 TiVo, the bluray and the 
charter had cable box should be ok.
Thanks
Mark

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> On Aug 31, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Bruce Johnson <john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu> 
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>> On Aug 30, 2015, at 6:50 PM, Mark Murphy <m.smurph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I got an ap called net gear genie. I turns out I have eps enabled.
>> When I got this router it was the latest and greatest gigabit. I have two 
>> gigabit switches, also netgear I thought my da G4 was also gigabit.
> 
> Network performance is a multi-factored thing. The ‘gigabit’ specification is 
> for the wired ethernet portion of your router only. That doesn’t apply to 
> wireless, which is what WEP applies to.
> 
> Moreover, the network interface is only part of the performance puzzle. 
> Apparent network speed (unless you’re taking care to measure it properly) is 
> affected by System I/O, and whatever programs you’re using. 
> 
> At work I was working with a professor who was claiming that n way was his 
> network port working right; his download speeds were too low. Gigabit 
> ethernet all the way through; it turned out that his bottleneck was poor disk 
> perfomrance on the Mac Mini’s he was using in the lab. The stock hard drive 
> in the Mini at the time was a horribly slow 5400 rpm SATA drive; when we 
> replaced the drives with SSD’s his download speeds went up by 45%.
> 
> (he was downloading huge data sets from a NIH server, 100-200 GB)
> 
> If you’re judging your ‘network’ speed by ‘how well I can browse the 
> internet’ you’re missing a bunch of potential bottlenecks:
> 
> the originating site may be slow
> your local cable environment may be congested
> your router may be misbehaving
> Your computer may be suffering slow throughput for any number of reasons:
>slow Disk IO
>slow memory
>slow CPU (You mention this is a G4…compared to modern processors it’s an 
> antique)
>Something else going on on the computers that are causing it to be slow.
> 
> Software that’s not compatible. TenFourFox is a great product, but it’s still 
> not completely compatible with modern standards. Try a different browser; see 
> if you an borrow someone’s newer Mac for testing.
> 
> I’d start with the suggestions I mentioned in my first email:
> 
> Reset your router to use WPA and use a good hard password and limit your 
> router to only the devices you own. This will eliminate people leeching off 
> of your bandwidth.
> 
> Reboot your G4 in safe mode (which clears a number of caches that can cause 
> system performance issues), then restart it normally.
> 
> Ensure that your web browser is the only thing running on the G4.
> 
> turn everything off but the G4, then use a non-flash network speed test, as 
> noted in the earlier email.
> 
> Do the same tests, but with the G5 and/or your iPhone (and with the G4 turned 
> off) This will eliminate/point to hardware issues with the G4.
> 
> Do this at different times of day, too. Depending on their topology, 
> Charter’s network could well get really slow in the evening, when everyone 
> queues up a netflix show or something.
> 
> THIS will be the best test you can do, imo, of your actual network speed to 
> your door. If that isn’t up to speed it’s either your cable modem or it’s 
> Charter. 
> 
> If those tests show a good speed, then the issue lies elsewhere in your 
> systems; and it’s less likely to be the network than the computer software 
> and hardware, or it’s the sites you’re using (even the fact that those have 
> slowed down over time is not an indication that it isn’t their fault…)
> 
> It’s a slow process; you need to test one thing at a time.
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Re: is there still a G3-5 list?

[Mark Murphy]

The last g3-5-list I have came through on June 10th. Weren't these  
things supposed to move to wordpress?


On Jun 21, 2013, at 7:01 PM, janespra...@comcast.net wrote:


Bruce,  I went to Google Groups and can't find the G3-5 list.

I sent this post to g3-5-list group  g3-5-list@googlegroups.com:

Stats: G4 flat screen goose neck iMac running 10.4; I am the  
administrator, but a teenage girl has an account. She has the only  
Mac computer in the house. There is a Windows computer and a couple  
iPads and iPods sharing the network.


The iMac turns itself on. That did NOT happen at my house! How can  
I figure out how this is happening and if someone has hacked into it?


Jane

But I can't find where the post landed! have you seen it?

jane

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Re: Motherboard and Memory Questions on recovered DAFir

[Mark Murphy]

I've tried swapping the sticks and the empty slots change depending  
on where I move them.


Thanks.
Mark Murphy
On Mar 15, 2011, at 8:01 AM, Geke wrote:


@Albert:
The Digital Audio has this quirk that it has 3 physical RAM slots but
4 logical ones.

@Mark:
The DA does need 133MHz. What you can do from here is swapping the
modules in slot 2 and 3 and see how they are reported then.
If slot 2 is reported empty after the swap, you know the module has
got damaged somewhere in the process.
If slot 3 is reported empty still, something could be wrong with the
slot. That would be bad news. In that case, you would need a good
motherboard.

But I think I’ve read in other threads that RAM is an unfathomable
thing sometimes, so it’s worth trying all 6 permutations of your 3 RAM
modules.

That is, once you are sure that all 3 are good. Albert’s suggestion is
a good way to find that out.

The main thing is to be absolutely systematic. It’s good to write down
what you are doing so you can trace everything back. It’s also good to
(temporarily) mark the modules so you can clearly identify them.

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Re: Motherboard and Memory Questions on recovered DAFir

[Mark Murphy]

I looked into the other machine and I found two sticks of Crucial 133  
ram. So I did screw that up. But, it didn't make much difference.


I looked at the ram in the DA and pulled out the two sticks that  
weren't marked 133 and put in the two sticks I found.


The only change is that in slots J21 and J22 now have 133 ram and J23  
shows empty.


I think this is an improvement.

Mark Murphy
On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Albert Carter wrote:


Mark,

 First thing I notice with this information is that the memory  
cannot possibly be all original. Just looking at the report on the  
RAM that is in the 2 populated slots you have 2 totally different  
speeds and latency types of memory. Granted I come from a PC World  
mostly and just dabble in Macs, but in a PC this would cause  
problems including it not being able to recognize the memory  
(Anyone know if this is true for Macs?). The other thing is you  
have 4 slots and if all are filled with 512MB you should be seeing  
2 GB of total RAM. Since the computer is recognizing just 2 slots I  
would do the following. Remove all memory and then test 1 stick in  
all 4 slots and see if it is recognized in all 4 slots. Move onto  
the next stick and do the same. You can also record what the  
computer detects each individual stick as so you can have that for  
your records. I suspect you have 4 different types of RAM and  
that's confusing the computer.



Thank You,
Albert



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Re: RJ 45 Aggravation Update

[Mark Murphy]

I do, I think part of my problem is I only work on this stuff every  
several years or so.

Thanks
On Dec 20, 2010, at 9:38 PM, gifutiger wrote:


Greetings

May I ask if you have a pair of RJ-45 crimpers?
They usually include a place to cut the cable prior to laying the
wires into the RJ-45 connector.

Cheers

Harry

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On Dec 19, 3:08 pm, smac0031 m.smurph...@gmail.com wrote:
I finally got this work. Why this didn't work the first time or  
any of

the other times, I don't know.

Instead of cutting across cable with a utility knife I cut  the
insulation parallel with scissors and then cut the insulation away
without taking a chance with scoring the individual wires. Then I  
made

sure I did the wires a pair at a time, brown, orange, green and blue.

The only problem I have is the line going to my TIVO. When I did the
test #7 and 8 were dead. I was going to quit with the whole thing but
I plugged the line into the TIVO and the pilot light on the adapter
came on. The TIVO is back on the internet and is fully functional.
Beats me.

How many of the pairs does RJ 45 use?

Anyway, the installation looks neat. The other main line I use works
with all four pairs like its supposed to.

Mark Murphy


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Digital Audio won't boot into OS9

[Mark Murphy]

I was under the impression that you needed 9.2.2 to operate under  
OSX. I ran 9.2.1 for a while not realizing I wasn't running the  
latest and last version of os9. I didn't start having problems at  
first. It took me a while to realize I was running the wrong version  
of OS9.


Later on I installed a processor upgrade and wasn't able to run OS9  
at all. Tech support told me there is a file in the dual processor  
folder that has to be deleted. It's been a while, I kind of fuzzy on  
this.


Since then my digital audio runs great.

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