Re: Cleaning computer keyboard
On Apr 28, 2020, at 4:03 PM, 'Bryan Roth' via G-Group wrote: You must eat and drink at your keyboard, I'm guessing...lol Guilty! Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, Texas -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/g3-5-list/90379164-701A-48BC-A81A-B3083E2387DD%40twc.com.
Re: Cleaning computer keyboard
This thing is so grungy it's gonna have to be swabbed in a biohazard isolation tent. Canned air won't loosen the many particles of cookies, cakes, pies, crackers, etc., that have found their way into all the nooks and crannies. I've tried it. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, Texas On Apr 28, 2020, at 11:45 AM, James Therrault wrote: What I've done with older keyboards is to use "canned air," (which actually is a compressed inert gas), by just blowing the snot out of 'em. Some of that gas does liquify in that process but since it's inert no harm comes out of it and the job gets done. Regarding the more modern aluminum keyboards, the same applies except that the "cleaning" as you described is limited as is accumulated dust/debris within. I think that once something goes wrong with these units, there is little in the way of options for recovery remedies JT On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Bruce Johnson > wrote: On Apr 27, 2020, at 8:25 PM, Jim Scott wrote: CAUTION: Other Apple keyboards can be disassembled and cleaned basically the same way, except for the newer “Chiclet” keyboards with a flimsy metal top frame glued to a white plastic bottom. It’s impossible to take those apart without melting keys or distorting the aluminum. I know, I’ve tried and failed. More than once. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/g3-5-list/BCB8D506-B79E-4843-8912-7979FCC73452%40pharmacy.arizona.edu . -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/g3-5-list/70BCD69D-80B1-4675-8F48-B20C724DBB47%40gmail.com . -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/g3-5-list/EFCF59DB-2224-4FB9-99B8-2B1FE8DF49D2%40twc.com.
Re: Cleaning computer keyboard
It's a wired model. Model A1048, to be exact. I think I first called it an A1049. This thing has so much accumulated grunge that it's going to have to be disassembled to clean it. And I will be sure to photograph it first so I get all the keys back where they belong! Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, Texas On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 27, 2020, at 8:25 PM, Jim Scott wrote: CAUTION: Other Apple keyboards can be disassembled and cleaned basically the same way, except for the newer “Chiclet” keyboards with a flimsy metal top frame glued to a white plastic bottom. It’s impossible to take those apart without melting keys or distorting the aluminum. I know, I’ve tried and failed. More than once. What I’ve done with mine is: Remove the batteries if it’s a wireless model dampen a paper towel with a little Formula 409 cleaner HOLD THE KEYBOARD UPSIDE DOWN, and gently wipe the keys clean. If you want you can follow that with a similar wipe of a paper towel dampened with isopropyl alcohol, then with it STILL upside down place it on a couple folded paper towels to blot off any remaining liquid. Works pretty well, I’ve not killed one yet and I've been using those keyboards for years now using this method. The key is making sure it’s upside down the whole time so fluid doesn’t get into the keyboard. This also works with Mac laptops as well, albeit a but more clumsily. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/g3-5-list/BCB8D506-B79E-4843-8912-7979FCC73452%40pharmacy.arizona.edu . -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/g3-5-list/CBDD4A79-329E-4125-9CD2-FF34A79ABA36%40twc.com.
Re: Cleaning computer keyboard
Many thanks! Great instructions. I don't know where I saw/read the recommendation to put the keyboard in the dishwasher, but I was skeptical of it from the get-go. Nice to see this group is still alive. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, Texas On Apr 27, 2020, at 10:25 PM, Jim Scott wrote: I’ve cleaned hundreds of older pre-“Chiclet” Apple keyboards over the years, including the A1048, which is what I think yours is. First, use a plastic spudger to pop off all the keys. Be careful, some have metal positioning pieces clipped underneath. Put all the keys in a tall CD spindle cover or similar container, add some liquid dish soap and warm water. Stir then let soak for a while. Stir some more, then dump the soapy water, refill with clean warm water and repeat until you’re happy. Be careful you don’t lose keys down the drain. Drain the water, then dump the keys onto a towel and dry them one by one. Keep some isopropyl alcohol handy in case there’s some greasy grime that needs special attention. There will be some water trapped in the hollow pegs that snap into the keyboard, so I usually tap each key on a hard surface to get rid of it. Second, dismantle the keyboard if there’s junk inside the clear plastic bottom cover. There are three tiny Phillips screws that hold the key “tray” to the bottom case. Remove them. On the bottom of the keyboard case are three more teeny Allen head screws that hold the bottom to the innards. Remove them. Third, flip over the keyboard and the innards should come loose from the clear plastic base. You’ll see more screws that hold the USB wiring to the case as well as the USB wiring cover to the back. Remove them. Fourth, be very careful not to get any liquids on the Mylar sheets that sandwich the printed circuits sheet; that moisture will ruin the fragile circuits. (If you do, it’s possible to use an automotive rear window defogger repair kit to renew the circuits. Been there, had to do that.) You can leave the Mylar sheets in place and carefully clean the usually filthy top side of the white plastic board the keys pop into, or you can totally disassemble that assembly. NOTE: If the clear plastic bottom is clean and junk-free, I usually leave the keyless assembly as Apple first put it together, but carefully use Q-tips dampened with isopropyl alcohol and a toothbrush to get all the dust, crumbs, hair, coffee/soda spills and whatnot out exposed by removing the keys. Sometimes I even remove that little white piece around the left/right, up/down keys if I can’t clean under it. But if there’s all kind of junk inside the clear bottom, a full disassembly is in order. Fifth. carefully reinstall everything in the right order. Keep another Apple keyboard around so you get the keys back in the correct places. (Another hard-learned lesson.) If you disassemble the bottom part, be very careful to get the USB cable securely back in place. Sometimes it might be necessary to put more of the sheathed cable inside the case in order to re-cover the tiny little wires exposed by *someone* pulling on the cable too hard. CAUTION: Other Apple keyboards can be disassembled and cleaned basically the same way, except for the newer “Chiclet” keyboards with a flimsy metal top frame glued to a white plastic bottom. It’s impossible to take those apart without melting keys or distorting the aluminum. I know, I’ve tried and failed. More than once. Talk about throw-away technology! What I do with “Chiclet” keyboards to keep them clean is to remove batteries or turn them off and wipe them down with a microfiber cloth dampened with isopropyl alcohol. Note the use of “dampened”. You don’t want to use too much isopropyl alcohol, which usually has 10-30 percent water content, and short out the keyboard. I also regularly turn off/remove batteries from “Chiclet” keyboards and tap them lightly on the desktop while holding them upside down, between total wipe-downs. Amazing how much stuff gets inside them. Whatever you do, do not put your keyboard in the dishwasher. It will come out clean, sort of, and it will be ruined. Good luck. Jim Scott Eureka, CA On Apr 27, 2020, at 7:25 PM, Sky King wrote: I am in need of suggestions as to how to clean years of accumulated gunk from between the keys of an Apple keyboard, model A1049. I've heard or read that keyboards can be put in the top rack of a dishwasher, but that doesn't sound so good to me, as this model has a permanently attached USB cord. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group
Re: Mouse Woes
Well, excuse me! As I subsequently posted, I was in error when I made that statement. In my frustration, I simply forgot that I had tried a wired mouse. Gimme a break. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX On Aug 4, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Then you originally gave erroneous information about your issue: -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Only one moniitor resolution?
No hardware changes. PRAM and CUDA reset. In checking System/Library/Displays for both OS 10.4 11 and OS 10-5-8, the only thing I find in each is a folder labeled "Overrides" containing various "DisplayVendorID" folders, and there are a few more such folders in the Overrides folder for 10.5.8. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX On Apr 21, 2017, at 3:56 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Did you change any hardware lately? Did you rest PRAM and CUDA? Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer https://www.youtube.com/user/fluxstringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Sky King <mcmurtreyja...@twc.com> wrote: I just noticed that my monitor (ViewSonic VA930m LCD) now works in only one resolution: 1280 x 1024, millions of colors. How did this happen and how do I fix it? Computer is a G4 MDD normally running OS 10.5.8, but when I re-start in 10.4.11, all resolutions and color choices are available. I recently did a fresh re-install of 10.5.8, but that's the only change. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Mysterious Files/Folders in OS 10.5.8
I originally posted this on the G-4 Powerbook forum, but as it appears not to have been updated in some time, I'm reposting it here in case it is an OS or G4 issue not specific to PowerBooks. One of my PowerBooks (a PowerBook5,7) has a mysterious folder labeled BaseSystem.pkg.159vQvGqc containing a bunch of files with a .plan suffix. What are these files? Can they be deleted? The other PowerBook (PowerBook 5,9) has two folders, labeled Var and Tmp, but no BaseSystem folder. What is their purpose? Both computers are running OS 10.5.8. All these folders are visible at the root level in the hard drive menu on each computer. Why are some folders visible on one but not the other? Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Mail start-up issue
At one time I had selected Mail to open automatically at start-up by checking it in System Preferences/Accounts/Login Items. But now I don't want it to, so have unchecked it. However, it insists on continuing to open automatically at start-up/restart. What's going on here? Computer is a PowerMac G4, dual-processor mirror drive door (PowerMac3,6), Boot ROM 4.4.8f2, running OS 10.5.8. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Deleting iCal Reminder Emails
Can someone tell me where to find old iCal reminder emails so I can delete them from the system? I'm currently running OSX 10.5.8, although some of the reminders were created in Tiger. System specs: Model Name: Power Mac G4 Model Identifier: PowerMac3,6 Processor Name: PowerPC G4 (3.3) Processor Speed: 1.25 GHz Number Of CPUs: 2 L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed:167 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2 Serial Number (system): XB40905UQ6P Hardware UUID:--1000-8000-000A95CFC548 Thanks in advance. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX Sent from my left-leaning, pro-labor, pro-gun control, pro-choice, pro- environment, pro-Obamacare, anti-Wall Street, tax-the-rich, increase- corporate-taxes, abolish-the-NSA, cut-the-defense-budget, bring-the- troops-home Power(to the People)Mac. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
MDD G4 Start-up Issue
Lately, my MCC G4 refuses to start by means of the start button on the front of the computer. I have to open the case and reset the PMU in order to re-start. I suspected the PRAM battery might be bad, but it's a new one that is outputting 3.67 volts. What's up? Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
PowerBook Batteries
As my posts to the PowerBook list do not seem to be getting through, I'm posting here. I'm looking for a reputable source of batteries for a 17-inch PowerBook G4 (PowerBook 5.7/Model A1107). Thanks in advance Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX Greed never sleeps. Ignorance never wakes up. Sent from my left-leaning, pro-labor, pro-gun control, pro-choice, pro- environment, pro-Obamacare, anti-Wall Street, tax-the-rich, increase- corporate-taxes, abolish-the-NSA, cut-the-defense-budget, bring-the- troops-home Power(to the People)Mac. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Image Attachments in Mac Mail
Why does Mail sometimes change my attachments to embedded images? I'm trying to send some JPEGs of about 3.5 MBs each, but I have received a complaint that each one has been converted to a 640 x 293 pixel thumbnail inserted as pictures. How do I ensure my recipient receives the full-size images? Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX Greed never sleeps. Ignorance never wakes up. On Nov 30, 2013, at 4:46 AM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/topics G5 DUAL 1.8 STARTUP [2 Updates] G5 DUAL 1.8 STARTUP JohnV vengbj...@verizon.net Nov 29 04:21PM -0500 This machine has been off for over a year. It is mated to the ?cinema display that pulls all power through the umbilical. Is there anything to worry about vefore trying to fire it up? JV Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com Nov 29 02:46PM -0800 This machine has been off for over a year. It is mated to the ? cinema display that pulls all power through the umbilical. Is there anything to worry about vefore trying to fire it up? I assume you mean one of the ADC displays that get power from the video card. Nothing special -- if the power supply was marginal enough for an ADC display to push it over the edge, there's nothing you could realistically have done to avoid its failure. However, ADC doesn't draw a great deal, which is why Apple ended up abandoning it. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Coffee. Delight. Border. May I see your passport please? -- Firesign Theater -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Wireless Mouse Options for PowerPC G4
My trusty Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 6000 v2.0 is starting to signs of wear and tear, and I've been looking for a replacement. However, all of the currently available Mac-compatible wireless mice seem to be only for Intel Macs. Does anyone have a source/recommendation for a wireless laser mouse that will work on my G4 MDD running OS 10.5.8, OS 10.4.11, and Classic? Thanks in advance Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX Greed never sleeps. Ignorance never wakes up. On Sep 12, 2013, at 5:57 AM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/topics Generic jpeg icons [2 Updates] Generic jpeg icons Edie dyslexicfing...@gmail.com Sep 11 11:01PM -0700 Hi Ged, I think your answer is in the Finder View menu. Choose Show View Options check the box for Show Icon Preview. ~Edie At 11:04 AM +0100 9/10/13 you wrote: geraldcornish geraldcorn...@gmail.com Sep 12 10:18AM +0100 Edie Thanks for that - it is amazing what one doesn't SEE when looking straight at it. Ged On 12 /09/ 2013, at 07:01, Edie wrote: -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Unresponsive script warning on Facebook
I was getting plenty of those messages as well every time I did a Google search using Safari (5.0.6). I switched to TenFourFox and those messages went away. Performance much improved, as well, although videos cannot be viewed as TenFourFox does not support plug-ins. Computer is a dual-1.25 GHz PowerPC G4 (MDD) running OS 10.5.8. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX Greed never sleeps. Ignorance never wakes up. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Importing Bookmarks/Passwords to TenFourFox
Is there an easy way to import bookmarks and passwords from Safari into TenFourFox? Neither browser's Help offers much advice about this topic. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX OS X 10.5.8 on G4 MDD dual 1.25 GHz -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Importing Bookmarks/Passwords to TenFourFox
Disregard previous message. Solution found. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX OS X 10.5.8 on G4 MDD dual 1.25 GHz -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Airport Card not detected on PowerMac G4 MDD
Card purchased on LEM swap list, installed per User Guide instructions, antenna connected. System profiler does not detect it, and there is no Airport option in Network control panel. Hardware Overview: Model Name: Power Mac G4 Model Identifier: PowerMac3,6 Processor Name: PowerPC G4 (3.3) Processor Speed: 1.25 GHz Number Of CPUs: 2 L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed:167 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2 Serial Number (system): XB40905UQ6P Hardware UUID:--1000-8000-000A95CFC548 OS is 10.5.8. Is an Airport base station necessary for the Airport card to be detected? I do not yet have one. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Web sites suddenly blocked
I came home from a trip, turned on my computer, and found that I am now blocked from certain favorite web sites. I am taken to a page at www.blocked-website.com which tells me, for example, Sorry, but (site) is blocked on this network. This site was categorized in (category). Contact your network administrator. Underneath this message it says Powered by OpenDNS. OpenDNS appears to be legitimate, offering parental controls, but there are no children in this household, and I do not use their services. There are only two computers in the house, my Mac and my wife's PC, both connected to the Internet via a router. Neither have parental controls activated. I contacted my provider, Verizon, and they maintain that nothing has changed with them and that the problem is in my computer. Computer is a dual 1.25 GHz MDD PowerPC G4 running OSX 10.5.8. Browser is Safari 5.0.6. What goes on here? Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Mac Mail Signatures not saved
All of a sudden, my email signatures are not being saved in my POP account. They're saved under All Signatures, and I can move them into my POP Account, but every time I shut down Mail and re-open it, they're gone from the POP account. What gives? OS X 10.5.8 Mail 3.6 Dual 1.25 GHz G4 Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Mac Mail won't save signatures
All of a sudden, my email signatures are not being saved in my POP account. They're saved under All Signatures, and I can move them into my POP Account, but every time I shut down Mail and re-open it, they're gone from the POP account. What gives? OS X 10.5.8 Mail 3.6 Dual 1.25 GHz G4 Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Can't connect to TVGuide.com
Cleared cache and history, and that had no effect. However, I indirectly discovered there is another tvguide.com site (http://online.tvguide.com ) with a different IP address (67.215.65.132) and this one works just fine. Local channel listings have been restored, a new Safari bookmark created, and all is well. Thanks to those who responded to the call for help. Interestingly, my wife's HP PeeCee can connect to the original site (204.153.26.245) through the same router, while my Mac was blocked. Weird, huh? Michael McMurtrey Bumfuzzled in Carrollton, TX -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Can't connect to TVGuide.com
As of yesterday I cannot connect to this site (204.153.26.245) using Safari 5.0.6, OS X 10.5.8, over Verizon's DSL. I cannot ping the site (10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss). Traceroute ends at my router IP address. This is the only site I apparently cannot contact using Safari. I can connect to it using Internet Explorer 5.2.3 and Stainless 0.8. So the problem would seem to lie within Safari. I have repaired permissions, but the problem persists. How do I fix it? Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Strange Mail behavior
My Mail application has started doing something strange: When I copy a JPEG to paste it into an outgoing email, Mail is converting it to a TIFF. How do I make it stop? I've checked the Preferences, but there's nothing there that seems to apply. Mail 3.6 OS X 10.5.8 Dual 1.25 GHz PowerPC G4 (MDD) Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic. On Mar 8, 2013, at 7:46 AM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/topics They're Following Me... [5 Updates] They're Following Me... JohnV vengbj...@verizon.net Mar 07 03:11PM -0500 Ok, I've always known about the cookies thing and erasing (or not accepting ) them, but things have moved on. How is it that now I am getting several specific singular ads following me around websites, forums and anything else? I clear cookies, caches and went so far as to dump the entire HISTORY in Safari wondering what it is that identifies me and brings these singular things onto my screen. Any thoughts? John V Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Mar 07 01:36PM -0700 How is it that now I am getting several specific singular ads following me around websites, forums and anything else? I clear cookies, caches and went so far as to dump the entire HISTORY in Safari wondering what it is that identifies me and brings these singular things onto my screen. Any thoughts? They're probably using your IP address for geolocation, which is why most of the ad-supported websites I hit seem to have ads for Tucson Mother makes money fast! and the like. My suggestion is ignore the ads. If you really want ot browse in private, use Incognito windows in Chrome, or Priavte Browsing in Safari, etc. Owners of websites DO have some control over what ads are placed on them, so if there's something egregiously offensive tell the webmaster of the site in question. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net Mar 07 02:43PM -0600 On Mar 7, 2013, at 2:11 PM, JohnV wrote: I clear cookies, caches and went so far as to dump the entire HISTORY in Safari wondering what it is that identifies me and brings these singular things onto my screen. They track your IP address also, so you'll need to use something like Tor to remain more anonymous. Even Tor can be tracked with some effort. I have cable which is supposed to be dynamic IP, but AFAIK they rarely if ever change my IP. If I started hosting they'd probably pop my IP just to make it more difficult for me, after all, they're not a bi-directional information super highway, they're one-way intravenous ads for fun profit. As in all things, there is a cost to be paid to remain anonymous, in this case Tor results in a noticeable increase in latency before webpages load, the cost of slicing dicing all those packets across all those anonymous Tor nodes. Tor on a PPC Mac may be difficult to setup now. AFAIK you use Vidalia for PPC, but finding a browser may be harder, I suspect you'll need TenFourFox or something with plugins enabled and a Tor plugin? The current Tor Browser Bundle required OS X 10.6+ and Intel, so getting Tor working on PPC may be a bit of a challenge now, but I'm sure it can be done. Just search Tor PPC or Vidalia PPC. Here are current PPC versions of Vidalia to get you started: https://www.torproject.org/dist/vidalia-bundles/ Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Mar 07 01:46PM -0700 Tor on a PPC Mac may be difficult to setup now. AFAIK you use Vidalia for PPC, but finding a browser may be harder, I suspect you'll need TenFourFox or something with plugins enabled and a Tor plugin? The current Tor Browser Bundle required OS X 10.6+ and Intel, so getting Tor working on PPC may be a bit of a challenge now, but I'm sure it can be done. Just search Tor PPC or Vidalia PPC. Here are current PPC versions of Vidalia to get you started: https://www.torproject.org/dist/vidalia-bundles/ Much simpler to find someone else's wifi to get on the internet :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs Judith Berkowitz sfjb...@mac.com Mar 07 03:05PM -0800 On Mar 7, 12:11 pm, JohnV vengbj...@verizon.net wrote: ... How is it that now I am getting several specific singular ads following me around websites, forums and anything else? ... Any thoughts? John V - Adblock Plus adblockplus.org/ and - Click to Flash clicktoflash.com/ get rid of the symptoms of the problem. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group g3-5-list. You can post via email. To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. For more options, visit this group. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those
Re: Flash Player hack update 11.5
Not working on the pbs.org History Detectives website. Haven't had a chance to test others. System info: Model Name: Power Mac G4 Model Identifier: PowerMac3,6 Processor Name: PowerPC G4 (3.3) Processor Speed: 1.25 GHz Number Of CPUs: 2 L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed:167 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2 Serial Number (system): XB40905UQ6P Hardware UUID:--1000-8000-000A95CFC548 OS X 10.5.8 Safari 5.0.6 Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:10 AM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/topics Flash Player hack update 11.5 [1 Update] Prepping a G4/10.5.8 for sale [3 Updates] US Java alert? [7 Updates] G5 Damaged in Shipping [2 Updates] OT redirected to l. yimg.com on Mac G4 [1 Update] Flash Player hack update 11.5 Paolo Tassotti paolo.tasso...@gmail.com Jan 30 09:28AM +0100 hi folks, this hack for flash player on PPC machines has just been updated up to version 11.5: http://scriptogr.am/nordkril/post/adobe-flash-11.5-for-powerpc enjoy ! paolo Prepping a G4/10.5.8 for sale kimtoufectis kimtoufec...@gmail.com Jan 29 08:44PM -0800 Much obliged, thanks! On Monday, January 28, 2013 2:36:02 PM UTC-5, PH wrote: kimtoufectis kimtoufec...@gmail.com Jan 29 08:45PM -0800 Good tips; thanks! On Monday, January 28, 2013 2:51:01 PM UTC-5, DaleH wrote: kimtoufectis kimtoufec...@gmail.com Jan 29 08:47PM -0800 Each of you filled in a part of the puzzle for me. Thanks much! On Monday, January 28, 2013 3:04:04 PM UTC-5, joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: US Java alert? Dan dantear...@gmail.com Jan 29 03:53PM -0500 At 3:12 PM -0500 01/12/2013, Dan wrote: Anyone knows more about this Java alert issued by US Gov (alert that include Flash as well)! SSDD. Yet-another zero day vulnerability, yadda yadda yadda *yawn* And today's chapter: http://mac-security.blogspot.com/2013/01/just-turn-java-off-very-high-security.html LOL - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Jan 29 03:00PM -0700 SSDD. Yet-another zero day vulnerability, yadda yadda yadda *yawn* And today's chapter: http://mac-security.blogspot.com/2013/01/just-turn-java-off-very-high-security.html Here's the thing: anyone who can run a vulnerable version of Java on their Mac and has installed Apple's security updates has already done this. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1572 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1573 The last Java update Apple released went through and purged Java from the browser plugins. (As I found out, unpleasantly, when I tried to use a network-based KVM we purchased. Yet another 'Universal' devioce that is truly universal, it runs under Windows on Dells, on HP's, on Lenovo's…) (Apple's relesed these updates for 10.6, 7 and 8. 10.5 and lower is officially deprecated, and doesn't run the latest versions of Java. PPC machines CAN'T run the latest versions of java. I'm mildly surprised that they released the fix for 10.6.) Anyone else either deliberately went out of their way to re-enable Java or is not running a version that's vulnerable. Almost all of these new security issues with Java are the result of Oracles new code in the latest version. (and the appeal to 'Open Source' java just won't happen. As I've said before the entire impetus for Oracle to buy Sun was to acquire Java, which is Oracle's lifeblood, since so much of their database stuff is now written in Java.) Everything else (like hardware, VirtualBox, etc) was gravy for them, and Oracle is no more going to open source Java than they would Oracle Enterprise Database. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs W.Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com Jan 29 05:16PM -0500 Sooner or later you will run into an online form that is important to you which will require Java be turned on. That's a fact. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com Jan 29 03:08PM -0800 http://mac-security.blogspot.com/2013/01/just-turn-java-off-very-high-security.html Sooner or later you will run into an online form that is important to you which will require Java be turned on. ITYM Java*Script*, which has very little to do actually with Java, and assuming you are using one of the still-maintained PowerPC browsers is much more up-to-date. -- personal: http
Re: Flash Player hack update 11.5 (update)
Not working on the pbs.org History Detectives website. Sponsor's videos play just fine, but program videos are a not go. Haven't had a chance to test others. System info: Model Name: Power Mac G4 Model Identifier: PowerMac3,6 Processor Name: PowerPC G4 (3.3) Processor Speed: 1.25 GHz Number Of CPUs: 2 L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed:167 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2 Serial Number (system): XB40905UQ6P Hardware UUID:--1000-8000-000A95CFC548 OS X 10.5.8 Safari 5.0.6 Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:10 AM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/topics Flash Player hack update 11.5 [1 Update] Prepping a G4/10.5.8 for sale [3 Updates] US Java alert? [7 Updates] G5 Damaged in Shipping [2 Updates] OT redirected to l. yimg.com on Mac G4 [1 Update] Flash Player hack update 11.5 Paolo Tassotti paolo.tasso...@gmail.com Jan 30 09:28AM +0100 hi folks, this hack for flash player on PPC machines has just been updated up to version 11.5: http://scriptogr.am/nordkril/post/adobe-flash-11.5-for-powerpc enjoy ! paolo Prepping a G4/10.5.8 for sale kimtoufectis kimtoufec...@gmail.com Jan 29 08:44PM -0800 Much obliged, thanks! On Monday, January 28, 2013 2:36:02 PM UTC-5, PH wrote: kimtoufectis kimtoufec...@gmail.com Jan 29 08:45PM -0800 Good tips; thanks! On Monday, January 28, 2013 2:51:01 PM UTC-5, DaleH wrote: kimtoufectis kimtoufec...@gmail.com Jan 29 08:47PM -0800 Each of you filled in a part of the puzzle for me. Thanks much! On Monday, January 28, 2013 3:04:04 PM UTC-5, joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: US Java alert? Dan dantear...@gmail.com Jan 29 03:53PM -0500 At 3:12 PM -0500 01/12/2013, Dan wrote: Anyone knows more about this Java alert issued by US Gov (alert that include Flash as well)! SSDD. Yet-another zero day vulnerability, yadda yadda yadda *yawn* And today's chapter: http://mac-security.blogspot.com/2013/01/just-turn-java-off-very-high-security.html LOL - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Jan 29 03:00PM -0700 SSDD. Yet-another zero day vulnerability, yadda yadda yadda *yawn* And today's chapter: http://mac-security.blogspot.com/2013/01/just-turn-java-off-very-high-security.html Here's the thing: anyone who can run a vulnerable version of Java on their Mac and has installed Apple's security updates has already done this. http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1572 http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1573 The last Java update Apple released went through and purged Java from the browser plugins. (As I found out, unpleasantly, when I tried to use a network-based KVM we purchased. Yet another 'Universal' devioce that is truly universal, it runs under Windows on Dells, on HP's, on Lenovo's…) (Apple's relesed these updates for 10.6, 7 and 8. 10.5 and lower is officially deprecated, and doesn't run the latest versions of Java. PPC machines CAN'T run the latest versions of java. I'm mildly surprised that they released the fix for 10.6.) Anyone else either deliberately went out of their way to re-enable Java or is not running a version that's vulnerable. Almost all of these new security issues with Java are the result of Oracles new code in the latest version. (and the appeal to 'Open Source' java just won't happen. As I've said before the entire impetus for Oracle to buy Sun was to acquire Java, which is Oracle's lifeblood, since so much of their database stuff is now written in Java.) Everything else (like hardware, VirtualBox, etc) was gravy for them, and Oracle is no more going to open source Java than they would Oracle Enterprise Database. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs W.Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com Jan 29 05:16PM -0500 Sooner or later you will run into an online form that is important to you which will require Java be turned on. That's a fact. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com Jan 29 03:08PM -0800 http://mac-security.blogspot.com/2013/01/just-turn-java-off-very-high-security.html Sooner or later you will run into an online form that is important to you which will require Java be turned on. ITYM Java*Script*, which has very little to do actually with Java, and assuming you are using one of the still-maintained PowerPC browsers is much more up-to-date
Re: Radeon 9600/ADC
On Dec 21, 2012, at 6:19 AM, Rob J. wrote: I was not speaking of the *external* monitor connector, I was speaking of the *internal* connection for ADC on the card, and next to the AGP slot in the motherboard. My apologies for the misunderstanding. I had totally forgotten about the internal connection. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Digest for g3-5-list@googlegroups.com - 2 Messages in 1 Topic
My Radeon 9600 is the Mac edition, and the monitor connectors pose no problem. My monitor is a ViewSonic 930m connected via the DVI connector. No problems with Safari, either. This is why I always look for genuine Mac components and have avoided flashed PC cards. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX On Dec 19, 2012, at 5:09 AM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/topics Follow-up: ADC - AGP video card issues for MDD and G5 [2 Updates] Follow-up: ADC - AGP video card issues for MDD and G5 frrob fr...@earthlink.net Dec 18 10:35AM -0800 Hello again: You'll recall my travails last week with the Radeon 9800 Pro that I couldn't get to work properly/reliably in my 1.25 gHz DP MDD. I finally gave up on it, and reverted to the stock 9000. But I purchased a 9600 XT on eBay, which I received yesterday. The machine wouldn't power on with the card until I taped pins 3 11, which didn't surprise me. But I taped the pins and the machine started right up, and the card works fine, with a couple of caveats, which I'll get to in a moment. However, much to my chagrin, I discovered that the 9600 XT, and presumably other AGP/ADC video cards meant originally for the G5, does not have its ADC connector in the same place as the 9000, or other G4 AGP/ADC cards. The ADC connector for the 9600 is further back on the card than that of the 9000. Color me stupid, but, never having poked around inside a G5, I did not know that the G5 and G4 had different physical locations for the ADC connector. I figured ADC was ADC. D'oh! So, though the card works, I've really gained nothing by getting the 9600. I wanted an AGP/ADC card into which I could just plug my Apple 23 inch ADC display. I can use my DVI - ADC adapter with the card, but what I wanted was a straight ADC connection. So, first question: my subsequent research indicates that the only AGP/ADC card that offers Core Image hardware acceleration, and will physically work with the ADC connector of the MDD, is the Radeon 9700, which, apparently, had a version that was designed for the MDD. Is this correct, or are there others I'm not aware of? Furthermore, there is one issue with the 9600 when I use it with the DVI-ADC adapter and my 23 inch cinema display. For some reason, and this *only* happens with the DVI-ADC adapter and the cinema display, when I load pages in Safari that have Flash content, Safari either hangs and becomes unresponsive, or quits altogether. I then get a dialog that says Safari has quit unexpectedly. This may have been caused by the Flash 10.x plug-in. This only happens with the 9600 - DVI - ADC - 23 inch cinema combination. Any ideas what is going on here? I am guessing, but perhaps for some reason the Core Image hardware acceleration of the 9600 (which the 9000 doesn't have) doesn't play well with Flash and ADC? I can't imagine why, but there it is. Finally, my second question, which may be moot, but: has anyone ever tried to somehow adapt the ADC connector of one of these G5 ADC cards to the ADC connector of an MDD? It seems to me that it could be done and could work. The ADC connector only has two leads, which supply power for the display, correct? It seems to me that you might be able to come up with some kind of franken-connector or jumper that would let you go straight ADC. Anyone know anything out there? Thanks, Rob J. Peter Devlin pdim...@mail.com Dec 18 07:47PM It seems to me that you might be able to come up with some kind of franken-connector or jumper that would let you go straight ADC. Anyone know anything out there? I've seen a G5 AGP Pro 8x card converted to work in a non pro G4 4x slot - not a pretty sight. But afaik the adc in the mdd has two connections in the agp slot - thus the taping of pins 3 and 11 on 8x cards which I believe in the mac slot supply power for the adc connection. In between the 4x agp mdd and the 8x agp G5 the layout of the slot was converted to agp pro design to keep adc - apple should have gone for dvi/vga at that point (had to eventually) but they have always liked to have their proprietary video connectors going way back... Pete You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group g3-5-list. You can post via email. To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. For more options, visit this group. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group
Re: Throwing in the Towel
On Dec 14, 2012, at 5:49 AM, Richard Gerome wrote: I will hang on to the card and see if it works if I ever get a G5. There is a version of the 9800 that works on a G4, but they are expensive and hard to find; I know because I have been looking for one myself without success. The one card I did find (on ebay) had a problem (hot, ozone smell and only 128 MB available of the 256 MB alleged) and was returned to the seller. That's why I finally settled on a 9600. A later version of the 9800 worked only of G5s (or so I've been told) and I'll bet that is the one you have. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card
For what it's worth, I recently installed a 256 MB Radeon 9600 (AGP) in my MDD, which has two hard drives (both on the ATA bus) and have had no problems whatsoever. System Profiler reports Core Image: Hardware Accelerated and Quartz Extreme: Supported. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX On Dec 12, 2012, at 5:48 AM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/topics MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card [5 Updates] MDD G4 odd start/restart behavior - new video card faithie999 faithie...@hotmail.com Dec 11 03:55AM -0800 i was going to suggest the same thing, if only for a last troubleshooting step. if you have either a spare PC power supply, or a PC that you can borrow the power supply from temporarily, you could try powering the video card from the separate power supply. assuming the borrowed PS doesn't have a switch, google for the pinout for the 20 (or 24) pin connector, and see which pins you need to short together to turn the PS on. ken t...@prismnet.com t...@prismnet.com Dec 11 08:41AM -0800 On Monday, December 10, 2012 10:14:08 PM UTC-6, Valter Viglietti wrote: had the 400W PS, subsequent versions (FW 800 and 2003) had the 360W. Perhaps the design became more power-efficient; I don't know if the two PS are interchangeable. Are we sure these are different versions and not just another example of what happened with, IIRC, the 9500/9600? In that older case, some times the input wattage of the power supply was listed. Other times the output wattage of the power supply was listed. Of course, the input wattage was considerable higher back then. This sent a number of devoted modders scurrying around hunting for the higher power supply, even though both numbers referred to exactly the same supply; the two numbers were simply describing different qualities of the same object. I notice that 360 is exactly 10% less than 400. 90% efficiency is perhaps a bit high, but about in the ball park of what one would expect from a good efficient supply, so I find it believable, although not certain, that 400W is the input wattage of the MDD supplies and 360W is the output wattage of the MDD supplies. Jeff Walther frrob fr...@earthlink.net Dec 11 09:36AM -0800 Jeff: From photos of several of these PSUs (both 360 and 400 watt versions) for sale on eBay, it seems pretty clear to me that these figures are output wattage. From my rough calculations based on input figures on the same PSUs, it would seem that the input wattage is between 700-800 watts. Rob J. gifutiger gifuti...@gmail.com Dec 11 04:57PM -0800 Greetings, If you need drivers you should be able to get them on ATI web page. When I was using my G4 AGP Graphic 400 I need to install the drivers (I think there was2) before everything worked Okay. Well my problem was, if the system went to sleep upon wake up the screen was scrambled, and the only way out was, Shutdown and restart. But with the drivers installed sleep wake up was good. If you can't find the drivers let me know, I'm sure that I still have them. Cheers Harry frrob fr...@earthlink.net Dec 11 12:13PM -0800 Greetings all! On a related, but slightly different note: What about using an ADC/DVI version of the 9600 (either the Pro or XT) instead of the 9800? I have seen a number of them for sale on eBay. Since they are ADC, they might play better with the MDD. Furthermore, they don't appear to have the Molex secondary power connector, so that would be another problem avoided. Do they not have the molex because they draw extra power through the ADC plug on the motherboard, or do they just draw less power? I imagine I'd have to tape pins 3 11, but that's not a big deal. With the 9600 XT or Pro, I'd still have hardware acceleration of Core Image and Quartz Extreme. Any potential pitfalls, or other thoughts on that? Thanks, Rob J. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group g3-5-list. You can post via email. To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. For more options, visit this group. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
Re: Flash
Could someone please provide the link (or a how-to) for the hack to fool Flash into thinking it's a later version? My computer is a dual-1.25 GHz MDD running 10.5.8. Thanks. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX Tact is for people who aren't witty enough to be sarcastic. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Non-Readable CDs on G4 MDD
For some time now, I've been ordering CDs of certain US Air Force records from an Air Force agency for a book I'm writing. These CDs, which contain PDFs of the records in question, all opened with no problems. However, with the last two orders, the CDs are not readable by my Mac G4 MDD. I get the following message: The disk you inserted was not readable by this computer. Disk Utility sees the disk but will not mount it and reports it as a Read-Only CD-R. These rogue CDs are readable on my wife's PC (Windows Vista) however. System Profiler reports the drive as an HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B. Specs: Firmware Revision:1.03 Interconnect: ATAPI Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipped/Supported) Cache:2048 KB Reads DVD:Yes CD-Write: -R, -RW Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw System Specs: Machine Name:Power Mac G4 Machine Model:PowerMac3,6 CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (3.3) Number Of CPUs: 2 CPU Speed:1.25 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB Memory: 1.5 GB Bus Speed:167 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2 OS is 10.4.11 Any clue why my DVD drive won't read these CDs? These are the only optical media I've encountered that have had this problem Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bad Video Card?
Thanks to those who responded to this inquiry. The card is clearly an original Mac card; the bar code label which contains the serial number also contains the description Radeon 9800 Pro MAC 256M. The seller offers a-7-day money back guarantee, so I will return it. Thanks again for the help, everybody. This is a great group, and not the first time I've received assistance from it. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:02 AM, g3-5-list@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/topics Bad Video Card? [6 Updates] Bad Video Card? Michael McMurtrey skyking...@verizon.net Jan 27 03:08PM -0600 i recently purchased a Radeon 9800 Pro video card from an ebay seller. It was advertised as 256 Mb VRAM, and there is indeed a sticker on the card which identifies it as such. However, after installation, System Profiler reports it as 128 Mb VRAM, not 256, and there is a distinct hot, ozone smell coming from the computer. Upon reinstallation of the original video card, the smell has disappeared. What's the consensus? Is this card defective? System specs: Machine Name: Power Mac G4 Machine Model: PowerMac3,6 CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (3.3) Number Of CPUs: 2 CPU Speed: 1.25 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB Memory: 1.5 GB Bus Speed: 167 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2 Serial Number: XB40905UQ6P Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com Jan 27 09:47PM I would send it back if you are able as card does not function as it should. If it was AS IS then your pretty much stuck. -Original Message- From: Michael McMurtrey skyking...@verizon.net Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:08:48 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Reply-To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Bad Video Card? i recently purchased a Radeon 9800 Pro video card from an ebay seller. It was advertised as 256 Mb VRAM, and there is indeed a sticker on the card which identifies it as such. However, after installation, System Profiler reports it as 128 Mb VRAM, not 256, and there is a distinct hot, ozone smell coming from the computer. Upon reinstallation of the original video card, the smell has disappeared. What's the consensus? Is this card defective? System specs: Machine Name: Power Mac G4 Machine Model: PowerMac3,6 CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (3.3) Number Of CPUs: 2 CPU Speed: 1.25 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB Memory: 1.5 GB Bus Speed: 167 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2 Serial Number: XB40905UQ6P Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/g3-5-list Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net Jan 27 04:00PM -0600 On Jan 27, 2012, at 3:08 PM, Michael McMurtrey wrote: Upon reinstallation of the original video card, the smell has disappeared. What's the consensus? Is this card defective? Is it possible this isn't a Mac card, but rather a PC card? As I recall, it was possible to convert the PC cards into Mac cards, but you had to solder several 10K Ohm resistors over to alternate positions, like jumpers. If you didn't solder these, it was possible to burn-out something on the card. See this: http://thomas.perrier.name/otherStuff/ati9800convertEN.html Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu Jan 27 03:42PM -0700 On Jan 27, 2012, at 2:08 PM, Michael McMurtrey wrote: i recently purchased a Radeon 9800 Pro video card from an ebay seller. It was advertised as 256 Mb VRAM, and there is indeed a sticker on the card which identifies it as such. However, after installation, System Profiler reports it as 128 Mb VRAM, not 256, and there is a distinct hot, ozone smell coming from the computer. Magic smoke smell is always bad. I'd return the card and not risk messing up the computer by trying it further. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs Barry Levine barrylev...@norwoodlight.com Jan 27 07:38PM -0500 on 1/27/12 4:47 PM, slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com at slvrmoonti...@yahoo.com wrote: I would send it back if you are able as card does not function as it should. If it was AS IS then your pretty much stuck. From: Michael McMurtrey skyking...@verizon.net True. But Ebay sellers like to avoid the negative ratings. Even for something sold AS IS, unless it was dirt-cheap and clearly a case of caveat emptor. Barry pdimage pdim...@btinternet.com Jan 28 08:56AM the computer. Upon reinstallation
Bad Video Card?
i recently purchased a Radeon 9800 Pro video card from an ebay seller. It was advertised as 256 Mb VRAM, and there is indeed a sticker on the card which identifies it as such. However, after installation, System Profiler reports it as 128 Mb VRAM, not 256, and there is a distinct hot, ozone smell coming from the computer. Upon reinstallation of the original video card, the smell has disappeared. What's the consensus? Is this card defective? System specs: Machine Name: Power Mac G4 Machine Model:PowerMac3,6 CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (3.3) Number Of CPUs: 2 CPU Speed:1.25 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB Memory: 1.5 GB Bus Speed:167 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2 Serial Number:XB40905UQ6P Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Graphics Card Upgrade for MDD G4
After my Beige G3 began to experience problems running OS X Tiger (10.4.11), my wife bought me a refurbished dual-1.25 GHz processor MDD G4 from PowerMax. It is perfect for my needs and has been trouble- free. The only addition so far has been a USB 2.0 card. I'm running 10.4.11 but occasionally have the need to boot into 9.2.2 for some older software. Video performance, however, could be better, especially running flight sims and games. The video card is an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro (AGP, 64 MB VRAM). What is the consensus as to a better video card for this computer? The computer came with 1.5 GB of RAM (512 MB RAM in three of the four RAM slots). Would adding another 512 MB of RAM help video performance in any way? Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Flash Player Update News
On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:38 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: go to the Develop menu and change your User Agent to Safari iOS 4.3.3 – iPad. This also works for me on my MDD running 10.4.11 and Safari 4.1.3 by changing User Agent to any of the Mobile Safari options. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Multi-Port USB 2.0 PCI Card from Operator Headgap Systems
Item received quickly, installed easily, works great. Solved the problem I was having with my Verbatim USB drive on my MDD dual 1.25 GHz G4 (OS 10.4.11). Five external ports, one internal port. NEC chipset. Manufactured by SYBA. Only $24.77. Highly recommended. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX (no connection with SYBA or Operator Headgap). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
USB 2.0 Card for MDD G4
Of these two cards, which would be better for an MDD G4 running OS 10.4.11? Sonnet Allegro: http://www.sonnettech.com/product/allegro_usb2.html The no-name card shown as 1st item on this page: http://tinyurl.com/ 3avcnam Thanks for the help. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB 2.0 Card for MDD G4
Thanks to those who replied to my request for advice as to which card to purchase. I've ordered the cheaper no-name card from Operator HeadGap and will have a full report on it once it is received and installed. I was tempted to go with the Sonnet Allegro, as I have a Sonnet G4 processor upgrade in my Beige G3 and it has given me no trouble, and the price difference was negligible. But we'll see how this one works. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: USB Drive Issues
By will not work I meant will not mount when connected through the USB hub. The only activity is a repeated chirp and a flashing yellow light at the back of the drive. I've tried a different USB cord to connect it, but that makes no difference. The drive mounts normally when connected directly to the computer (not through the keyboard ports), and Disk Utility reports all is well with it. The power supply is not making any noises, is not overheating, and does not smell funny. The drive was reformatted before use and never gave any trouble until this recent hiccup. I normally left it connected all the time, as I put the computer to sleep every night instead of shutting it down completely. The only other USB devices I have are an HP LaserJet P1006 printer and an HP DeskJet D1415 printer plus an assortment of USB flash drives. All of these function normally, regardless of the port on the USB hub they are plugged into, whether the hub is powered or not. System Profiler reports the following about the built-in USB: Host Controller Location: Built In USB Host Controller Driver: AppleUSBOHCI PCI Device ID:0x0019 PCI Revision ID: 0x0001 PCI Vendor ID:0x106b Bus Number: 0x19 A USB 2.0 card, however, sounds like a good idea. Where do I get one? Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
USB Drive Issues
All of a sudden my Verbatim USB drive (AC320GB) will not work when connected to my Targus USB hub. The hub is powered, and the power supply seems to be working. All other USB peripherals work fine when plugged into the hub, and the Verbatim drive works fine when plugged directly into a USB port on the computer. Could this be an indication that the drive is failing? Disk utility reports all is okay with it. Computer is a dual-processor MDD running 10.4.11. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Authenticate Moving Files to USB Drive
My MDD G4 has a Verbatim USB drive which I use for backup and storage of certain files. But when trying to save certain photos and text files that I have gleaned from the internet, i get a message that i don't have permission to save to this drive. So I save the files to my desktop, but when moving the files from the desktop to the USB drive, I get a message that the files cannot be modified and I have to Authenticate the move with my name and password. Seems to me i did not have this issue when I first connected the USB drive. How do I eliminate the necessity to authenticate the move every time I try to save a file to the USB drive? Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Image Scaling Software needed
On Oct 15, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Brian Fuelleman wrote: You can get a free 30 day trial of the newest version at ononesoftware.com, though they've changed the name of the product. Right, but it only runs on Intel Macs. I need something that works the same but works on a PPC Mac running Tiger. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Image Scaling Software Needed
I'm looking for a good image scaling program/Photoshop plug-in that will work with Photoshop CS (version 8.0) on a dual-processor MDD running OS X 10.4.11. Genuine Fractals PrintPro 4.0 is what I am familiar with, but I cannot find a copy for sale anywhere, including Ebay. Anyone have a copy for sale at a reasonable price? Any suggestions? Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Reinstalling OS 10 on a Beige G3
On Jun 26, 2011, at 6:06 AM, Valter Prahlad wrote: Or, you might just had a bad monday case. ;-) That must have been the problem. After letting the computer sit all night with power off, when I started it the next morning it booted up right away into OS 9.2 from my ATA drive. I was then able to re-boot into OS 10 and complete the installation of 10.3 on the SCSI drive, then upgrade to 10.4 and use Software Update to bring it up to 10.4.11. All is fine now, but sometimes I think there is as much witchcraft/black magic to these things as there is computer science. The USB problem turned out not to be the card, but a balky hub. That turned out to be a connector to its power supply which had somehow loosened from its jack in all the turmoil; once that was re-seated, everything was back to normal. Thanks to all who provided advice; it was very helpful, and I am in a much better mood now, for which my wife also thanks you! My gracious wife also has ordered my birthday present in advance: a refurbished dual-processor, dual boot MDD G4 which will run all my current software and, she hopes, restore peace and tranquility to the household. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
PowerBook Advice Sought
Don't know if this is the right list or not, but with the moderator's indulgence, I'll post anyway. I'm looking for a used, good-condition PowerBook that will run OS X (and, optionally, boot into OS 9 as well). Do listees have any recommendations, both as to model and a reputable source for same? The need is primarily for research (i.e., note-taking) and scanning photos from various archives. Thanks in advance for your suggestions. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, TX -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Need a HP Laserjet Printer
After my trusty LaserJet 4ML died, I replaced it with a Laserjet P1006, which does everything I need and has worked well with my Beige G3 (768 MB with Sonnet 500 MHz G4 processor running Tiger 10.4.11). But like any laser printer, the toner cartridges are the catch. Prices for replacements for this model range anywhere from $20 (for no-name brands) to $70 for a genuine HP replacement. This printer is apparently now discontinued, but if you can find one somewhere, I recommend it. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, Texas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PPC Genealogy Software
I use Personal Ancestry Writer II; it's a great program and is updated frequently. Best of all, it's free! http://www.lanopalera.net/Genealogy/AboutPAWriter.html Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, Texas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
More Yahoo! Widget Woes
Repeated attempts to remove Yahoo! Widgets from my Beige G3 (OS 10.4.11) have met with nothing but frustration. Following instructions from Yahoo and others who responded to my original request for help, I: 1. Clicked on the gear icon in the System menu bar and chose Quit Yahoo! Widgets. 2. Opened the Applications folder and sent the Yahoo! Widgets icon to the Trash. 3. Opened the Documents folder and move the Widgets folder to the Trash. Yet Yahoo! Widgets appears every time I start my computer! There is no Yahoo! Widgets application in the Applications folder. There is no Widgets folder in the Documents folder. There is no Yahoo! Widgets in Login items in the Accounts System Preferences panel. What is going on here? Isn't there a startup log somewhere on my computer that could tell me where these items are hiding? Help! Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, Texas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Yahoo! Widget Woes
i downloaded and installed a Yahoo! widget. It did not work as advertised, so I uninstalled it following Yahoo!'s own instructions. Now, however, every time I start my computer a Yahoo! Konfabulator license announcement appears. Clicking the Cancel button makes it go away, but I want to permanently remove it. A search for Konfabulator on my system turns up nothing, and as I have Verizon Yahoo! email, I'm afraid to just start arbitrarily deleting Yahoo! files. What do I need to delete to get this stinkin' thing off my computer? Computer is a beige G3 running OS 10.4.11. Thanks. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, Texas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Disk Utility and HFS
Disk Utility reports the disk utility stopped verifying Macintosh HD because the following error was encountered. 1 HFS volume checked. Volume needs repair. What goes on here? System specs: Mac OS X Version 10.4.11 Processor 1.8 GHz PowerPC G5 Memory 768 MB DDr SDRAM More info: Hardware Overview: Machine Name:iMac G5 Machine Model: PowerMac8,1 CPU Type:PowerPC G5 (3.0) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed: 1.8 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB Memory: 768 MB Bus Speed: 600 MHz Boot ROM Version:5.2.2f4 Serial Number: W85022CRPP7 Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, Texas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iMac Problem
I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this, but here goes. My cousin has an iMac running Tiger (10.4.11) and has asked me for help with the following problems, as she relates them: My beloved computer is having some problems. If I shut down and leave it all night, it doesn't want to boot the next day. I have to restart it several times before it will come up. It does come on but the screen has shadows around everything or it stays black. Sometimes it looks like it is up, but there are little pieces of screen showing through stuff, like holes in the desktop. And then it will tell me I need to restart if I try to open anything. Any ideas? I know nothing else about the computer other than as described above. Michael McMurtrey Carrollton, Texas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
