On Aug 26, 1:06 pm, Dan wrote:
> At 12:35 PM -0400 8/26/2010, John Ruschmeyer wrote:
>
> >PowerBook G3 (Pismo, 500mhz, 1GB RAM)
>
> HD size? free space?
40GB drive (shows up as 36.7GB), 9 GB free
> >running under 10.4 for some time.
>
> 10 point 4 point what? Fully updated or ?
10.4.11... Up-to-date except for possibly recent Safari and Quicktime
updates.
> >The first problem appeared during an update for Office 2004. Like
> >most installers, it popped up a dialog that it would be running a
> >program to detect a suitable installation disk. When it came to that
> >point in the install, however, do disks were shown, greyed out or
> >otherwise. I have attempted to repeat this installation, even going
> >so far as to download a new copy of the update, with the same issue.
>
> There are some installers floating around that include a bad version
> of that volume checking applet, that often crashes or hangs on ppc
> macs. Check for crash logs.
Will do...
> >The next problem came when running Apple's Software Update.
> >Basically, the progress bar gets to about 25% and stops updating.
> >I've allowed this to run for hours with no further progress.
>
> Could be HD. But just as easily could be your network connection.
Network connection is otherwise good, so I'm disinclined to think
that's the issue.
> >Finally, in an attempt at resolving the first two problems, I ran
> >the "Onyx" utility. Onyx hangs, however, while determining the SMART
> >status of the drive.
>
> Ok. What does Disk Utility show?
Nothing obvious. Does Disk Utility show SMART status?
> What else isn't working correctly?
Nothing. It seems to be running fine otherwise.
> >In order to fix the problem, I've tried the typically recommended
> >fix of booting from the Tiger Install DVD, running Disk Utility and
> >doing a Repair Permissions.
>
> "typically recommended" by whom? Certainly not on these LEM lists.
> We only recommend repairing permissions when you definately have a
> permission related error. And that's very very very very very rare.
I'd have to go back and try to find the exact site, but it was the
suggested fix for what looked like the same Software Update hang.
> Nothing you've said in this message indicates a permissions problem.
> You seem to think you have a HD problem. If that's the case, then
> repairing permissions could be very destructive!
>
> >Interesting, it may be my imagination, but it seemed to take Disk
> >Utility a long time to identify my disk.
>
> Take a look at your system log for errors. Use Console.app to peruse it.
Good thought.. I forgot about that one.
> Run a repair disk (NOT permissions!) pass using Disk Utility.
I actually did that at the same time as the permissions fix.
> Make a good backup, just in case
Also a good thought...
Thanks...
John
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