Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4
On Nov 9, 2008, at 1:35 AM, joplinfan wrote: The HD verifies fine in Disk Utility... but it is noisy and overall just seems to run sluggish and slow. I'll replace it tomorrow and see what happens. Noisy and sluggish ... could imply what others suspect ... disk going bad. One of mine did that ... I believe it was trying to re-read / write things and sounded squeeky ... icons disappeared, and re- appeared ... partitions wouldn't open ... then they would ... then nothing ... Don't wait to replace it ... backup what you need ... if you're lucky, you can save things. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4
Iain. I have been trying to get hold of you for ages. Email me your address off list, I still owe you for the Lombard power adapter. Simon --- http://www.simonroyal.co.uk and http://www.nmug.org.uk (sent using Nokia E71) -original message- Subject: Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4 From: Iain Thornton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09/11/2008 11:01 I can't help with much about this but all I can say is I doubt it's down to the video card I had an ATI Rage 128 Pro running 10.4 for years and it worked well, but obviously it's an outdated card. I've even got one running XP now and it plays plenty of games perfectly happily The one piece of advice I CAN give is to upgrade the card (even if not related to this) get Quartz Extreme running :) best regards Iain Thornton --- On Sun, 9/11/08, joplinfan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: joplinfan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4 To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, 9 November, 2008, 4:37 AM Hi all, I have a BW G3 running 10.4 fairly well... but now and then it will exhibit strange video problems such as missing icons in the Applications and Utilities folders, reloading the desktop two or three times during startup, and no response when clicking Shutdown and Restart via the menu. Usually if I use Force Quit and restart Finder, the icons will appear and things will work fine for awhile, but will eventually disappear again. I've tried all of the simple things including a new PRAM battery, reinstall the OS, rewrite the HD with zeros before reinstall, etc... but no success. I'm kind of thinking it could be the ATI Rage 128 video card or the HD, but not positive. Any ideas? Thanks. Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:02 PM, joplinfan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Update... Problem was definitely a bad HD. Disk Utility kept saying the previous drive was fine, but a different drive took care of the problem. Been running the BW for a few hours without issue. Steve , glad you got it fixed. Hope all data was recovered. Thanks for letting us know. Adrian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4
Hi all, I have a BW G3 running 10.4 fairly well... but now and then it will exhibit strange video problems such as missing icons in the Applications and Utilities folders, reloading the desktop two or three times during startup, and no response when clicking Shutdown and Restart via the menu. Usually if I use Force Quit and restart Finder, the icons will appear and things will work fine for awhile, but will eventually disappear again. I've tried all of the simple things including a new PRAM battery, reinstall the OS, rewrite the HD with zeros before reinstall, etc... but no success. I'm kind of thinking it could be the ATI Rage 128 video card or the HD, but not positive. Any ideas? Thanks. Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4
On Nov 8, 2008, at 10:37 PM, joplinfan wrote: I'm kind of thinking it could be the ATI Rage 128 video card or the HD, but not positive. No. It's not the Rage 128 video card, but you should try to replace it with at minimum a Radeon 7000. Then enable Quartz Extreme with PCI Extreme 3.1 and you'll be golden. Video problems will be manifested as streaks, lines, or artifacts. There are no video problems that remove individual icons or groups of icons from the desktop, folders, or dock. This is a system issue of some sort. Is the SMART status of the HD OK? The HD verifies OK with Disk Utility? I believe some BW's had an ATA bus issue, you might look into that possibility? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:37 PM, joplinfan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have a BW G3 running 10.4 fairly well... but now and then it will exhibit strange video problems such as missing icons in the Applications and Utilities folders, reloading the desktop two or three times during startup, and no response when clicking Shutdown and Restart via the menu. Usually if I use Force Quit and restart Finder, the icons will appear and things will work fine for awhile, but will eventually disappear again. I've tried all of the simple things including a new PRAM battery, reinstall the OS, rewrite the HD with zeros before reinstall, etc... but no success. I'm kind of thinking it could be the ATI Rage 128 video card or the HD, but not positive. Any ideas? Thanks. What do the startup signals tell you? Screen color etc? Loose RAM? Have you changed any hardware lately? Does it act like this when booted from optical disk? Is it possible the drive got corrupted/ overwritten by two different file systems in any way? Any hard drive noises? Loose or damaged HD cabling. Dirty connections? Everything seated properly? Can you try another HD? I would be thinking the drive is nearing the end. But maybe it is something else? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: BW G3 - Strange display problems running 10.4
The HD verifies fine in Disk Utility... but it is noisy and overall just seems to run sluggish and slow. I'll replace it tomorrow and see what happens. Thanks to all for the replies! Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
