Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On 3/6/10 10:56 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Ken Daggett wrote: On 6 Mar 2010, at 11:14:10 PST, Bruce Johnson wrote: The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM - I wouldn't think you could readily connect an ADB device of any kind to a G5. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs I never thought of that, I use Griffin iMate with the G3s and G4s. It works seamlessly on those boxes. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA The iMate is worth a try. I'd be interested to know if it works. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 7, 2010, at 5:58 AM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: On 3/6/10 10:56 AM, John Carmonne wrote: On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Ken Daggett wrote: On 6 Mar 2010, at 11:14:10 PST, Bruce Johnson wrote: The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM - I wouldn't think you could readily connect an ADB device of any kind to a G5. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs I never thought of that, I use Griffin iMate with the G3s and G4s. It works seamlessly on those boxes. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA The iMate is worth a try. I'd be interested to know if it works. Stephen The iMate works fine on G3 and G4 bootable OS9. The problem I have is even though I can run 9 applications on my G5 it will not load the EVE doing extension. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 7, 2010, at 7:07 AM, John Carmonne wrote: The iMate works fine on G3 and G4 bootable OS9. The problem I have is even though I can run 9 applications on my G5 it will not load the EVE doing extension. I don't think there is a solution. See: http://www.macvector.com/KnowledgeBase/usingearlyversionsonosx.html MacVector is another app that used the same ADB dongle, only the USB- based EvE 3 dongles work in OS X Classic mode. If you can get a USB dongle that works with your software, maybe that'll be a solution. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 7, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 7:07 AM, John Carmonne wrote: The iMate works fine on G3 and G4 bootable OS9. The problem I have is even though I can run 9 applications on my G5 it will not load the EVE doing extension. I don't think there is a solution. See: http://www.macvector.com/KnowledgeBase/usingearlyversionsonosx.html MacVector is another app that used the same ADB dongle, only the USB-based EvE 3 dongles work in OS X Classic mode. If you can get a USB dongle that works with your software, maybe that'll be a solution. My ADB EVE dongle works on the iMate to USB but the darn extension won't load at Classic start up in Tiger. All's not lost because I have plenty of OS9 bootable machines. I just like to use the G5 some times because I have a VIZIO 36 on it. Funny I always wanted to use MacVector but no money in those days. Also the dongle needs to be blessed for the different applications. What I need really is to be able to use ResEdit or something like it to remove the dongle requirement in the program. I've searched with ResEdit many times but just can't find the code to thrash it. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA sent from my Wally 10.4.11 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On 3/7/10, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: My ADB EVE dongle works on the iMate to USB but the darn extension won't load at Classic start up in Tiger. All's not lost because I have plenty of OS9 bootable machines. I just like to use the G5 some times because I have a VIZIO 36 on it. Funny I always wanted to use MacVector but no money in those days. Also the dongle needs to be blessed for the different applications. What I need really is to be able to use ResEdit or something like it to remove the dongle requirement in the program. I've searched with ResEdit many times but just can't find the code to thrash it. I know their official stance is that they no longer support that product for this os, but have you nonetheless tried calling/emailing them? It's possible that someone who worked on developing that product for this os is still working there and if your request is properly worded they may simpathise with you and provide you with assistance in bypassing what I presume to be their antipiracy measure. Good luck! -- Best Regards, John Musbach -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 7, 2010, at 12:33 PM, John Musbach wrote: On 3/7/10, JOHN CARMONNE carmo...@aol.com wrote: My ADB EVE dongle works on the iMate to USB but the darn extension won't load at Classic start up in Tiger. All's not lost because I have plenty of OS9 bootable machines. I just like to use the G5 some times because I have a VIZIO 36 on it. Funny I always wanted to use MacVector but no money in those days. Also the dongle needs to be blessed for the different applications. What I need really is to be able to use ResEdit or something like it to remove the dongle requirement in the program. I've searched with ResEdit many times but just can't find the code to thrash it. I know their official stance is that they no longer support that product for this os, but have you nonetheless tried calling/emailing them? It's possible that someone who worked on developing that product for this os is still working there and if your request is properly worded they may simpathise with you and provide you with assistance in bypassing what I presume to be their antipiracy measure. Good luck! -- Best Regards, John Musbach Yes I've tried that but they always say that they know nothing about it. Like I said earlier some of the previous versions can be bypassed with a date/ combo but the latest one no cigar. I know there's a way to remove the protection of the dongle because the way they sold it was a 4 stage system and the stages were turned on by your Dongle similar o the way CNC controls are controlled by parameters instead of a software package for each machine, you would give them money and in return they would tell you the parameter over the phone. Like car dealers do when they try to sell you the alarms, All cars have them today but they want money to turn it on, That's why if you stick to your guns it's free. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 7, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 1:00 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: Funny I always wanted to use MacVector but no money in those days. You were a lab rat, too? MacVector is a DNA and Protein sequencing app. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs No Bruce The vector I'm referring to is come to think of it ScanVec used to create line art from scans that could be used to make a DXF file so I could create machining paths. My profession is high performance auto parts.I see you're in Phoenix? remember Manzinita? The Tempe Tornado? JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA sent from my Wally 10.4.11 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Dongle for CAD/CAM
Hi All I use a program that requires a Rainbow dongle and runs on OS9 I would like to run it in Classic 9 under Tiger, but the dongle needs an extension that boots at start up. I want to run it on my G5 PM but that machine will not boot OS9 Does anyone know a way around this dongle? I've tried for years to do this. The company that made it stopped supporting Mac in 1995. I refuse to own a Winbloze. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On 3/6/10 5:26 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Hi All I use a program that requires a Rainbow dongle and runs on OS9 I would like to run it in Classic 9 under Tiger, but the dongle needs an extension that boots at start up. I want to run it on my G5 PM but that machine will not boot OS9 Does anyone know a way around this dongle? I've tried for years to do this. The company that made it stopped supporting Mac in 1995. I refuse to own a Winbloze. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Greetings: There are only 2 ways 2 run an older program like that - on a G5, in classic OS9, or find yourself one or the fastest G4's that will boot OS9, like the Quicksilvers. Can you be a bit more specific? What application is it, and how does the Rainbow dongle physically plug in? I'm running MiniCAD 6 here on a G5 in classic mode on my G5, but it doesn't require a dongle. Stephen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 6, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Stephen E. Bodnar wrote: On 3/6/10 5:26 AM, John Carmonne wrote: Hi All I use a program that requires a Rainbow dongle and runs on OS9 I would like to run it in Classic 9 under Tiger, but the dongle needs an extension that boots at start up. I want to run it on my G5 PM but that machine will not boot OS9 Does anyone know a way around this dongle? I've tried for years to do this. The company that made it stopped supporting Mac in 1995. I refuse to own a Winbloze. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Greetings: There are only 2 ways 2 run an older program like that - on a G5, in classic OS9, or find yourself one or the fastest G4's that will boot OS9, like the Quicksilvers. Can you be a bit more specific? What application is it, and how does the Rainbow dongle physically plug in? I'm running MiniCAD 6 here on a G5 in classic mode on my G5, but it doesn't require a dongle. Stephen The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM it doesn't boot OS9 and the dongle needs to boot at start up. So I have to boot 9 to use it, I have plenty of dual boot OS9 Tiger machines, but I'd like to include the use of my PM G5s also, hence the need for a dongle crack. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:23 AM, John Carmonne wrote: The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM it doesn't boot OS9 and the dongle needs to boot at start up. So I have to boot 9 to use it, I have plenty of dual boot OS9 Tiger machines, but I'd like to include the use of my PM G5s also, hence the need for a dongle crack. I agree with Stephen, your best bet is to stick with the OS9 capable system, or search for a different CAM solution, and Mac-wise, it doesn't look too promising out there. Any particular reason you want/need to use the G5? -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 6, 2010, at 1:23 PM, John Carmonne wrote: The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM it doesn't boot OS9 and the dongle needs to boot at start up. So I have to boot 9 to use it, I have plenty of dual boot OS9 Tiger machines, but I'd like to include the use of my PM G5s also, hence the need for a dongle crack. Just to ask the most basic question. You say the extension needs to load at start up. Have you tried putting it in your classic OS folder so that when classic starts, it sees the dongle at startup? Since the dongle will be seen when OS 9 starts up, and the app runs in classic, that may qualify as available at startup. Len -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On 6 Mar 2010, at 11:14:10 PST, Bruce Johnson wrote: The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM - I wouldn't think you could readily connect an ADB device of any kind to a G5. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:23 AM, John Carmonne wrote: The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM it doesn't boot OS9 and the dongle needs to boot at start up. So I have to boot 9 to use it, I have plenty of dual boot OS9 Tiger machines, but I'd like to include the use of my PM G5s also, hence the need for a dongle crack. I agree with Stephen, your best bet is to stick with the OS9 capable system, or search for a different CAM solution, and Mac-wise, it doesn't look too promising out there. Any particular reason you want/need to use the G5? Well because it's there and if there are cracked Virtual Gibbs for PCs. So then I need some one who can go into the code to disable the EVE extension for the dongle. I have an earlier version that i can bypass the dongle with a date/ password combo but the v5.0 doesn't buy it. This is not some hobby type software it's a manufacturing standard. Original cost is $14,000.00 I own the stuff legally but they refuse to support the Macs after 1995 and I think they should open the access to us dongle challenged owners. So we can use newer Macs. Like I said I have a lot of macs that will run 7.5 to 9.2.2 but it'd be kinda nice to run it without booting 9. I was hoping to find a way to get the extension to load properly as Classic is starting. All my other shop programs run in classic mode but this because of the dongle. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: On Mar 6, 2010, at 1:23 PM, John Carmonne wrote: The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM it doesn't boot OS9 and the dongle needs to boot at start up. So I have to boot 9 to use it, I have plenty of dual boot OS9 Tiger machines, but I'd like to include the use of my PM G5s also, hence the need for a dongle crack. Just to ask the most basic question. You say the extension needs to load at start up. Have you tried putting it in your classic OS folder so that when classic starts, it sees the dongle at startup? Since the dongle will be seen when OS 9 starts up, and the app runs in classic, that may qualify as available at startup. Len Yes that's where it lives. I have the same OS9 package on all the machines, regardless of booting capabilities. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dongle for CAD/CAM
On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Ken Daggett wrote: On 6 Mar 2010, at 11:14:10 PST, Bruce Johnson wrote: The app is ViITUAL GIBBS 5.0 the dongle is a ADB unit also I can use it on a Griffin iMate, but I want to use it on my G5 PM - I wouldn't think you could readily connect an ADB device of any kind to a G5. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs I never thought of that, I use Griffin iMate with the G3s and G4s. It works seamlessly on those boxes. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
