Re: Need help installing and booting OS9 on G4 Quicksilver 2002
If memory serves, and it often doesn't, the install disks are machine specific. Might want to try a generic OSX disk that supports classic, ie Panther, Tiger, and use the OS9 folder and drivers included. On 1/17/16, Brad Wait <wbw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > > I just bought a used G4 quicksilver 2002 power mac (this one: > http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/specs/powermac_g4_1ghz_dp_qs.html). > > > > I want it to boot from OS9, and I don't really need to run OSX. I thought > this would be simple to set up, but apparently not. > > Unfortunately, I bought this used without any install CDs. For the seller's > > privacy, I wiped the hard disk by connecting the G4 via firewire to my OSX > laptop, and using the latest disk utility. This wiped any OS9 drivers from > > the disk. The newer OSX disk utility would not let me install the OS9 > drivers on the reformatted drives. There is no 'install OS9 drivers' > checkbox. > > Two questions: > > >1. IF I can find a bootable OS9 installer CD, will it install the OS9 >drivers automatically to the reformatted hard drive? Or, will it not be > >able to see the drive at all when it boots up? >2. I need help getting a bootable OS9 CD. I found several ISOs online >that I burned to a CD using my OSX laptop. But none of ISOs appear to be > >bootable on the G4. I am stumped as to why this doesn't work. Here are > the >ones I have tried: > > >- > > http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/power-mac-g4-quicksilver-2002-restore-discs > > - http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2109.0 > > Anyone have suggestions? > > Thanks > -Brad > > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our > netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "G-Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Need help installing and booting OS9 on G4 Quicksilver 2002
> On Jan 17, 2016, at 8:36 PM, Brad Wait <wbw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi > > I just bought a used G4 quicksilver 2002 power mac (this one: > http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/specs/powermac_g4_1ghz_dp_qs.html). > > > I want it to boot from OS9, and I don't really need to run OSX. I thought > this would be simple to set up, but apparently not. > > Unfortunately, I bought this used without any install CDs. For the seller's > privacy, I wiped the hard disk by connecting the G4 via firewire to my OSX > laptop, and using the latest disk utility. This wiped any OS9 drivers from > the disk. The newer OSX disk utility would not let me install the OS9 drivers > on the reformatted drives. There is no 'install OS9 drivers' checkbox. > > Two questions: > > • IF I can find a bootable OS9 installer CD, will it install the OS9 > drivers automatically to the reformatted hard drive? Or, will it not be able > to see the drive at all when it boots up? OS X and OS 9 used the same disk format, so there is no issue there. The installer CD will set the proper boot sector stuff to boot into OS 9 as part if the installation. > • I need help getting a bootable OS9 CD. I found several ISOs online > that I burned to a CD using my OSX laptop. But none of ISOs appear to be > bootable on the G4. I am stumped as to why this doesn't work. Here are the > ones I have tried: > • > http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/power-mac-g4-quicksilver-2002-restore-discs > • http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2109.0 > Anyone have suggestions? I think you may need to use the Restore disks, not the 9.2 disk. The QS2002 requires 9.2.2, as it was the last Mac to boot into OS 9. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Need help installing and booting OS9 on G4 Quicksilver 2002
Hi I just bought a used G4 quicksilver 2002 power mac (this one: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/specs/powermac_g4_1ghz_dp_qs.html). I want it to boot from OS9, and I don't really need to run OSX. I thought this would be simple to set up, but apparently not. Unfortunately, I bought this used without any install CDs. For the seller's privacy, I wiped the hard disk by connecting the G4 via firewire to my OSX laptop, and using the latest disk utility. This wiped any OS9 drivers from the disk. The newer OSX disk utility would not let me install the OS9 drivers on the reformatted drives. There is no 'install OS9 drivers' checkbox. Two questions: 1. IF I can find a bootable OS9 installer CD, will it install the OS9 drivers automatically to the reformatted hard drive? Or, will it not be able to see the drive at all when it boots up? 2. I need help getting a bootable OS9 CD. I found several ISOs online that I burned to a CD using my OSX laptop. But none of ISOs appear to be bootable on the G4. I am stumped as to why this doesn't work. Here are the ones I have tried: - http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/power-mac-g4-quicksilver-2002-restore-discs - http://macos9lives.com/smforum/index.php?topic=2109.0 Anyone have suggestions? Thanks -Brad -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
Thanks for the responses everyone. I confirmed that the noise was coming from the CPU cooling fan. I removed it, removed the label, applied about 5 small drops of 3-in-1 oil to the bearing and worked it in until the fan blades were able to move freely. I replaced the unit, and it is much, much quieter now (it sounded like a field of crickets before). I'll go ahead and purchase a replacement. --Bill On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 3:29 PM, John Callahan jcalla...@stny.rr.comwrote: Could very well be although this was about seven years ago so I was certain the fan was original. However the plug connection made for an easy exchange. No soldering! Got the fan side plug from a power supply for a severely damaged model aircraft I just happened to have saved. FWIW On Mar 17, 2013, at 3:18 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
Hello G4 users, My 2002 Quicksilver is starting to make some noise associated with the CPU cooling fan (as far as I can isolate it). Can anyone share experiences re: replacing this fan? Is it fairly easy to remove, replace and/or repair (i.e., lube?) Thanks, Bill On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 2:26 AM, Peter Plas peterp...@me.com wrote: Hello G4 users, I have a Quicksilver G4 2002 running OSX 10.5.8 with 1.5 GB of RAM and two internal Harddisks ( 320 GB and 160 GB) installed and I use it every day. It still looks as if it came right out of the box. Last week I put in a new pram battery after 10 years ! As long as I will be able to run most of my software for surfing (using TenFourFox7450) and word processing (open office) I will continue to use it. Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-**list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/**lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/g3-5-list http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
My 2002 Quicksilver is starting to make some noise associated with the CPU cooling fan (as far as I can isolate it). Can anyone share experiences re: replacing this fan? Is it fairly easy to remove, replace and/or repair (i.e., lube?) It is a generic fan. You will have to obtain a generic replacement and cut the connector and cable off of the failed fan and solder it onto the replacement. These fans are 12 volts, dc. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
Bill, You need to determine if it's the power supply fan or the main ventilation fan. You can safely interrupt the spinning fan blade of the power supply (rear perforated panel) with a narrow piece of wood (I use a bamboo kabob skewer). If the noise goes away when the fan stops it's the power supply. You can replace the integrated PS fan but it's not easy. Power supply replacement is tedious and pricey. If the noise continues when the PS fan has been stopped, you can replace the the main ventilation fan. Check also to see if you have a high-end video card with an onboard fan as these can go bad and make noise as well. Google the phrase replacing mac quicksilver fan for numerous related articles including some from Apple Discussion forums. Good luck, Dale On Mar 17, 2013, at 9:18 AM, William Tomcanin wrote: Hello G4 users, My 2002 Quicksilver is starting to make some noise associated with the CPU cooling fan (as far as I can isolate it). Can anyone share experiences re: replacing this fan? Is it fairly easy to remove, replace and/or repair (i.e., lube?) Thanks, Bill -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
If it is the fan that cools the heat sink it is very easy to replace. About $20.00 to buy. First I would determine whether it is just clogged with dust and stuff, it may just need to be cleaned. My fan was clogged to the point that it burned the motor out. I reseated the heat sink while replacing the fan using Arctic Silver from Radio Shack. If you decide to replace the fan be sure and save the power plug, my new fan came without a plug. FWIW UP THE IRISH!! On Mar 17, 2013, at 9:18 AM, William Tomcanin wt8091...@gmail.com wrote: Hello G4 users, My 2002 Quicksilver is starting to make some noise associated with the CPU cooling fan (as far as I can isolate it). Can anyone share experiences re: replacing this fan? Is it fairly easy to remove, replace and/or repair (i.e., lube?) -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
If you decide to replace the fan be sure and save the power plug, my new fan came without a plug. Fans from electronics parts stores come with tinned (i.e., ready to solder) leads, never with connectors. If a connector is found, the fan was most likely surplus. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
Could very well be although this was about seven years ago so I was certain the fan was original. However the plug connection made for an easy exchange. No soldering! Got the fan side plug from a power supply for a severely damaged model aircraft I just happened to have saved. FWIW On Mar 17, 2013, at 3:18 PM, peterh...@cruzio.com wrote: -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups G-Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
G4 Quicksilver 2002
Hello G4 users, I have a Quicksilver G4 2002 running OSX 10.5.8 with 1.5 GB of RAM and two internal Harddisks ( 320 GB and 160 GB) installed and I use it every day. It still looks as if it came right out of the box. Last week I put in a new pram battery after 10 years ! As long as I will be able to run most of my software for surfing (using TenFourFox7450) and word processing (open office) I will continue to use it. Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
i have mdd thats maxed out. its great, and i plan on using it until it goes toasty, it also runs the last version of leopard as well good for you :) On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Peter Plas peterp...@me.com wrote: Hello G4 users, I have a Quicksilver G4 2002 running OSX 10.5.8 with 1.5 GB of RAM and two internal Harddisks ( 320 GB and 160 GB) installed and I use it every day. It still looks as if it came right out of the box. Last week I put in a new pram battery after 10 years ! As long as I will be able to run most of my software for surfing (using TenFourFox7450) and word processing (open office) I will continue to use it Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-**list.shtmlhttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/**lists/netiquette.shtmlhttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/g3-5-list http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
I once posted telling everyone how great my old G4 933 (2001) was and I got a lot of flack for the post. LOL. My 11 year old G4 runs so good. Once in a while I think about a new iMac but really have no intentions until my G4 becomes completely unusable. I put a USB 2.0 card and a pci sata controller with 2 hard drives and it runs just fine. That should get me a few more years. A few years ago, my stock super drive stopped working so I put in a new pioneer unit. I use a beautiful ADC 23 Cinema display and enjoy being able to see 2 pages at one time. On Nov 23, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Jesse StJohn wrote: i have mdd thats maxed out. its great, and i plan on using it until it goes toasty, it also runs the last version of leopard as well good for you :) On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 1:26 AM, Peter Plas peterp...@me.com wrote: Hello G4 users, I have a Quicksilver G4 2002 running OSX 10.5.8 with 1.5 GB of RAM and two internal Harddisks ( 320 GB and 160 GB) installed and I use it every day. It still looks as if it came right out of the box. Last week I put in a new pram battery after 10 years ! As long as I will be able to run most of my software for surfing (using TenFourFox7450) and word processing (open office) I will continue to use it Peter -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
Today, you can get a super-multi Lite-on for about $20. I use these in certain Hacks which, for reasons of ports, must use IDE hard and optical drives. Available from MANY Hong Kong or Chinese eBay sellers are SATA-to-IDE converters, which will allow a current generation SATA drive (of whatever type) to appear to be PATA (IDE) to the host. AN advantage of these converters is (are): 1) the PATA interface is 80-wire/40-pin, which has been used on Apple products from the Blue and White G3, and on all later models, 2) large drives are supported, and 3) only one power connection is required as the adapter receives all power, and it distributes it to both to the adapter itself AND to the drive. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002 Date:Friday, 23. November 2012 From:Baldassare Guzzo guz...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I once posted telling everyone how great my old G4 933 (2001) was and I got a lot of flack for the post. LOL. My 11 year old G4 runs so good. Once in a while I think about a new iMac but really have no intentions until my G4 becomes completely unusable. I put a USB 2.0 card and a pci sata controller with 2 hard drives and it runs just fine. That should get me a few more years. A few years ago, my stock super drive stopped working so I put in a new pioneer unit. I use a beautiful ADC 23 Cinema display and enjoy being able to see 2 pages at one time. I’ve bought all my Macs after they’ve decided to go Intel… What came after 10.6 was a tighter integration/binding to the Internet, and the Apple App Store and iTunes with all of Apples little gadgets and smart devices. I neighter need nor do I want that. IMHO, Apple went the wrong way. The hardware they built while in the PowerPC era was IMHO the best, even if they didn’t realize it. So was the software (Mac OS X went a very good way from NEXTSTEP over Rhapsody to Mac OS X 10.6, but they went straight down into commerce right after. It’s only business – too much for my taste. So I’m happily running Mac OS X 10.3, 10.4 and 10.5 alongside 8.6 and 9.2.2 on my G3 and G4 Macs, and Linux on my PCs. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
Why bother with buying from China? Because they are fresh stock with the latest firmware, and they cost only a couple of bucks, delivered to any U.S. address. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002 Date:Friday, 23. November 2012 From:peterh...@cruzio.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Why bother with buying from China? Because they are fresh stock with the latest firmware, and they cost only a couple of bucks, delivered to any U.S. address. I guess it depends on what one personally prefers… And I don’t really think that firmware is an issue here: such an adapter has to convert from the parallel ATA i.e. PATA or IDE to the SATA standard. It is like RAM DIMMs to me. PC or Mac, U.S. or China… whatever. Examples for adapters I would buy: Digitus DS-33151 DeLock 61702 (see http://www.delock.de/produkte/G_61702/merkmale.html?setLanguage=en) Interesting though, I had trouble finding product info in the English language… Maybe these adapters (from Digitus and DeLock) are only common in Europe. I cannot image that there are no such /cheap/ products available in the U.S. though. Anyway, I personally like to take the nearest supplier, so I can see (and touch) what I’m buying. If this is not an option (due to a significant higher price or availibility) I go for national, then international shipping. So, that’s my personal preference… Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
PC133 RAM in 933 G4 Quicksilver 2002 (QS2000) -- just like they said -- no ECC RAM support
I'm sure anyone who has experience with this will know this already, and many might even say I'd told you so, but I'd like to confirm that using PC133 CL3 ECC RAM in a G4 QS2002 -- DOES NOT WORK. I was suspicious that I might be able to use one stick of non-ECC RAM and then the other two sticks of ECC and that the motherboard ram controller might somehow see the non-ECC RAM and just work. Well it doesn't. No combination tested so far allows any of the ECC RAM to work in the machine. Adding just one stick, in any order, with or without non-ECC RAM prevents the machine in booting. For kicks I tried the ECC RAM in a blue-and-white G4 (not sure if it was 350Mhz or 450Mhz) -- zilch. Didn't work either. I had been a bit hopeful because I found online someone's comment that they had used ECC ram in their G4 Cube successfully. Also I have noticed that in my G4 QS2002 that if I used three sticks of CL2 memory the machine was crashing but that if I put that same CL2 memory in with one stick of CL3 the machine apparently slowed down all the memory access and I had no problems then with that CL2 memory. Anyway... thought that documenting this clear test might help somebody some grief someday. I tried ECC sticks from Micron, Samsung, and one or two others. None worked. The irony is that when it was new ECC memory was more expensive and now, apparently because so many servers have been decommissioned, the used RAM market has much cheaper ECC memory than the non-ECC. Now if someone can come up with a hack to let me de-solder part of the ECC stick to turn it into a non-ECC... that would be fantastic! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: PC133 RAM in 933 G4 Quicksilver 2002 (QS2000) -- just like they said -- no ECC RAM support
Now if someone can come up with a hack to let me de-solder part of the ECC stick to turn it into a non-ECC... that would be fantastic! Parity will work but ECC will not. Also, the RAM must be unbuffered and not registered. Machines in the gigabit through Quicksilver era have just enough on-mobo buffering for a total of seven loads (eight if you count the processor). Which is why the 100 MHz bus machines have four RAM slots (but only three PCI slots) whereas the 133 MHz bus machines have only three RAM slots (but four PCI slots). -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
At 5:01 PM +0100 2/10/2011, J.M.P.Hissel wrote: Just 2 weeks ago I composed my QS 800/'02 as follows: HD 75 GB with 10.4.11 and 9.2.2 in the lower bay HD 75 GB with 10.5.8 in the upper bay HD 115 GB for storage in the Zip bay PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-116D 1,5 GB RAM NVIDIA GeForce2 MX with TwinView conn.to a LaCie electr22b3 ATY,Rage128 conn.to a DELL E196FP PCI 1799/ USB-2 All is working flawlessly. But Tiger is much snappier and faster than Leopard on this Mac. With Spotlight indexing enabled or ? ...Leopard does a lot of background preview generation and such. I've run into a number of systems that felt more sluggish than Tiger, until those processes finished. I worry that people make snap performance judgements without taking that into account. Leopard's kernel really is faster than Tiger's. It's the add-ons that slow things. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
I have both Leopard and Tiger on my dual-800 QS with 1.5gb ram. Leopard takes longer to startup, but once it has done so, I have no problems with its performance. I don't have a single-processor model to compare it to, though. On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Jay jonathan.newcas...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody running Leopard on a G4 Quicksilver 2002 800mhz with 1.5gb ram and how is it? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
On 07-02-2011 18:40, Jay, jonathan.newcas...@gmail.com, wrote: Anybody running Leopard on a G4 Quicksilver 2002 800mhz with 1.5gb ram and how is it? I have read on LEM that I will be pushing if I want decent performance and that's fair enough. Just thought I would ask for, before I put the idea to bed and install Tiger. (Not looking to make any hardware upgrades, yet). Hello Jay, Just 2 weeks ago I composed my QS 800/'02 as follows: HD 75 GB with 10.4.11 and 9.2.2 in the lower bay HD 75 GB with 10.5.8 in the upper bay HD 115 GB for storage in the Zip bay PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-116D 1,5 GB RAM NVIDIA GeForce2 MX with TwinView conn.to a LaCie electr22b3 ATY,Rage128 conn.to a DELL E196FP PCI 1799/ USB-2 All is working flawlessly. But Tiger is much snappier and faster than Leopard on this Mac. On my MDD FW800 the difference between Tiger and Leopard is almost zero. HTH, Jo Hissel -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
Just 2 weeks ago I composed my QS 800/'02 as follows: HD 75 GB with 10.4.11 and 9.2.2 in the lower bay HD 75 GB with 10.5.8 in the upper bay HD 115 GB for storage in the Zip bay PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-116D 1,5 GB RAM NVIDIA GeForce2 MX with TwinView conn.to a LaCie electr22b3 ATY,Rage128 conn.to a DELL E196FP PCI 1799/ USB-2 All is working flawlessly. But Tiger is much snappier and faster than Leopard on this Mac. On a 1.5 GB RAM QS 2002, 10.4.11 is the best choice. 10.5.8 is runnable, but it is slow. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 Quicksilver 2002
On Feb 7, 12:40 pm, Jay jonathan.newcas...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody running Leopard on a G4 Quicksilver 2002 800mhz with 1.5gb ram and how is it? I have read on LEM that I will be pushing if I want decent performance and that's fair enough. Leopard will be slower than Tiger but I think you will find it accaptable. One thing you can do: after installing and updating Leopard download and run Monolingual (freeware). Remove all languages you don't use and remove the Intel architecture. You'll save a few GB disk space and gain better performance. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Repairing a Power Mac G4 Quicksilver 2002 and getting it running again
On 8/30/09 10:04 PM, Robert Menes of viewtiful.icc...@gmail.com sent Hi everyone, I have a Power Mac G4 (Quicksilver 2002, 800 MHz) that needs a little repair work done on it. My girlfriend got the machine from a neighbor of hers, and it needed RAM and a video card. A friend of mine supplied the needed parts to me (384MB of RAM and an ATI Rage video card; unsure of exact model). I installed the parts into the machine today, and tried to power it up. The first thing I heard was a horribly loud grinding noise coming from one of the fans. It wasn't the fan in the PSU, but the second fan that sits underneath the PSU. So when I unscrewed the metal cage surrounding the fan, I discovered that the fan itself was badly cracked, and the blades were grinding against the edge of the fan. The fan part is a Sensflow DC Brushless; model # WFC1212B. This is the first repair I need to make. \ Hi Robert, Wait a few seconds and some one from the Swap list will be offering you a spare part. :-) If you are not a member of the LEM Swap List, by all means join; one of the best resources to obtain used parts for Macs at reasonable, better-than- eBay prices. The second problem involves any attempt to install or boot Mac OS X. I tried three different OSes: Mac OS 9.2, Mac OS X 10.0.3, and Mac OS X 10.2. Mac OS 9.2 starts, but then stops with a system error. OS X 10.0.3 starts booting, then kernel panics at the Happy Mac. OS X 10.2 also starts, but then crashes at the grey Apple logo. I'm wondering if the hard drive in this Mac may also be bad; no system is detected on it at all. I even tried switching the drive with another (the original drive was an 80GB Western Digital; the replacement is a 60GB WD). Alas, no dice. Would anyone on this list be able to tell me where I can perhaps find a replacement fan to replace the broken one, and also perhaps have an idea what could be wrong with my system, and why any Mac OS version I try running craps out? Thanks! Most likely, regarding your boot-up problems, is that the RAM provided for you is bad, and/or incompatible with OS X (which is pretty particular of its RAM - a failed install is a good indicator that the RAM is unacceptable for OS X standards. OS X.2 requires a minimum of 128Mb (iirc) RAM. Boot up with one stick at a time (using OS 10.2) and see if any of them are successful (zap the PRAM and reset the motherboard while you're at it). Hopefully, at least one stick will be good so you can proceed with installation, admittedly rather sluggishly. Then get more RAM at the Swaplist. I would avoid any OS upgrades (to 10.3, 10.4.x) until you are able to up the RAM, and until you're able to check the firmware version. HTH, Dana --Robert --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
