Help restoring contents of drive to newer computer

2011-06-22 Thread Dan A
Hi all,

I need some help to clarify the best procedure to use to restore the
contents of an internal drive to a new place.


My old G4 15” 800 MHz Ti-Book, using 10.4.11, developed bouts of severe
screen disruption with lines, which I think might be due to the cable going
trom computer to screen, being pinched or perhaps it’s the video card. Seems
like a cable, because a visiting daughter tilted the screen while using it
and things went bad from there... but I’m not looking to fix it... instead,
I want to restore the entire backed up contents to a “new” 15” 1.64 GHz PB
which will have a clean install of 10.4 in it from the seller, which I’ll
upgrade to 10.5 after the restoration.


Here is the situation that I’m working with:

I have been doing daily backups of the 800MHz using SuperDuper to an
external 1TB firewire drive. Even though SuperDuper has been finishing each
backup making the TB drive bootable, it actually isn’t. I have to use
another way to get SuperDuper to restore the backed-up data to the 1.67
book. I cannot find, at this time, the SuperDuper disk to install into the
1.67. But I do have SuperDuper on a working 17” 1.33 MHz G4 PB which also
happens to be connected to the same 1 TB firewire drive. Can I just
add/connect the new 15 PB directly to the same I TB drive via a FW cable,
theres an open port on the TB drive, and ask Super Duper on the 17 to
restore the back-up on TB to the new 15?


Sorry for all the words, whew. Thanks for any specific info or a better way
that you can outline for me. I’d like to get this right the first time. It’s
been a nightmare trying to regain some of the functionality that I had going
on the Ti-Book.


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Re: Help restoring contents of drive to newer computer

2011-06-22 Thread Kris Tilford

On Jun 22, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Dan A wrote:


Hi all,
I need some help to clarify the best procedure to use to restore the  
contents of an internal drive to a new place.


My old G4 15” 800 MHz Ti-Book, using 10.4.11, developed bouts of  
severe screen disruption with lines, which I think might be due to  
the cable going trom computer to screen, being pinched or perhaps  
it’s the video card. Seems like a cable, because a visiting daughter  
tilted the screen while using it and things went bad from there...  
but I’m not looking to fix it... instead, I want to restore the  
entire backed up contents to a “new” 15” 1.64 GHz PB which will have  
a clean install of 10.4 in it from the seller, which I’ll upgrade to  
10.5 after the restoration.


Here is the situation that I’m working with:
I have been doing daily backups of the 800MHz using SuperDuper to an  
external 1TB firewire drive. Even though SuperDuper has been  
finishing each backup making the TB drive bootable, it actually  
isn’t. I have to use another way to get SuperDuper to restore the  
backed-up data to the 1.67 book. I cannot find, at this time, the  
SuperDuper disk to install into the 1.67. But I do have SuperDuper  
on a working 17” 1.33 MHz G4 PB which also happens to be connected  
to the same 1 TB firewire drive. Can I just add/connect the new 15  
PB directly to the same I TB drive via a FW cable, theres an open  
port on the TB drive, and ask Super Duper on the 17 to restore the  
back-up on TB to the new 15?


Sorry for all the words, whew. Thanks for any specific info or a  
better way that you can outline for me. I’d like to get this right  
the first time. It’s been a nightmare trying to regain some of the  
functionality that I had going on the Ti-Book.


You're going about this all wrong. First, the reason the 1TB external  
HD isn't bootable is because you've probably not got the correct  
partition format on the HD. PPC Macs using 10.4 Tiger require Apple  
Partition Format. Intel Macs use GUID Partition Format, and your  
external HD would have came OEM as Master Boot Record Partition  
Format. The file system is independent of the partition format, so  
even if you repartitioned to HFS+ file system, if the partition  
format is wrong you can't boot on a PPC Mac. Leopard 10.5 can boot  
BOTH Apple Partition format and GUID on PPC Macs, but Intel Macs only  
boot GUID.


The best way to accomplish your goal is to forget about Tiger 10.4  
on the new 1.67 and instead do a clean install of Leopard 10.5, then  
during the installation process use the Migration Assistant to move  
everything over from the old TiBook. The way you do this is to select  
the option Transfer my information from another Mac and then boot  
the TiBook into Firewire Target Disk mode by holding the T key at  
startup and connect it to the new 1.67 with a Firewire cable and let  
the Migration Assistant transfer everything. You could also possibly  
transfer from the external 1TB drive if you wanted, but why use a copy  
when the original is available?


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Re: Help restoring contents of drive to newer computer

2011-06-22 Thread Charles Davis

Ok what should work.


Get the 'firewire' full backups working as being 'bootable'.

It's then quite simple.

Hook up the firewire cable between the 1TB drive and the new (to you)  
15 PB. have the 1TB drive powered up. Power on the new PB while  
holding the 'Option Key'. The 'old, backed up system from your present  
Ti-Book (on the 1TB drive, will show up as one of the boot choices.  
Select it. When the 15 PB boots, then use CCC/ SuperDuper  that  
system (your old Ti-Book system) TO the HD in the New 15PB.


DONE

The old Ti-Book system/Data/Garbage/deleted Files/EVERYTHING will now  
exist on your NEW 15PB


Have FUN!!!

Chuck D.


On Jun 22, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Dan A wrote:


Hi all,

I need some help to clarify the best procedure to use to restore the
contents of an internal drive to a new place.


My old G4 15” 800 MHz Ti-Book



I want to restore the entire backed up contents to a “new” 15” 1.64  
GHz PB
which will have a clean install of 10.4 in it from the seller, which  
I’ll

upgrade to 10.5 after the restoration.


Here is the situation that I’m working with:

I have been doing daily backups of the 800MHz using SuperDuper to an
external 1TB firewire drive. Even though SuperDuper has been  
finishing each

backup making the TB drive bootable, it actually isn’t.





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Re: Help restoring contents of drive to newer computer

2011-06-22 Thread dan auerbach


On 22-Jun-11, at 6:42 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:


On Jun 22, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Dan A wrote:


Here is the situation that I’m working with:
I have been doing daily backups of the 800MHz using SuperDuper to  
an external 1TB firewire drive. Even though SuperDuper has been  
finishing each backup making the TB drive bootable, it actually  
isn’t. I have to use another way to get SuperDuper to restore the  
backed-up data to the 1.67 book. I cannot find, at this time, the  
SuperDuper disk to install into the 1.67. But I do have SuperDuper  
on a working 17” 1.33 MHz G4 PB which also happens to be connected  
to the same 1 TB firewire drive. Can I just add/connect the new 15  
PB directly to the same I TB drive via a FW cable, theres an open  
port on the TB drive, and ask Super Duper on the 17 to restore the  
back-up on TB to the new 15?




The best way to accomplish your goal is to forget about Tiger 10.4  
on the new 1.67 and instead do a clean install of Leopard 10.5, then  
during the installation process use the Migration Assistant to move  
everything over from the old TiBook. The way you do this is to  
select the option Transfer my information from another Mac and  
then boot the TiBook into Firewire Target Disk mode by holding the  
T key at startup and connect it to the new 1.67 with a Firewire  
cable and let the Migration Assistant transfer everything. You could  
also possibly transfer from the external 1TB drive if you wanted,  
but why use a copy when the original is available?


Kris, thank you for your help, it is much appreciated. Very clear and  
simple. Thanks to Charles as well. You've both prevented me from  
expanding a disaster. I''m looking forward to receiving the 1.67 PB so  
I can get all my data from the last 7 or so years back on hand.


dan_A
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