Mail address export import

2010-09-28 Thread John Markowitz
I have a problem with mail address's between computers, I want to find a way to 
sync the address's between 5 Macs preferably with a thumb drive or Ethernet.
I don't use Apple address book so I need a method without that.


John M
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Re: Mail address export import

2010-09-28 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Sep 28, 2010, at 4:44 AM, John Markowitz dadbe...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a problem with mail address's between computers, I want to find a way 
 to sync the address's between 5 Macs preferably with a thumb drive or 
 Ethernet.
 I don't use Apple address book so I need a method without that.
 

If you don't use Address Book, or Mail.app perhaps you could enlighten us as to 
which mail app you DO use so we don't suggest something like a pen and  paper 
address book.

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Re: Mail address export import

2010-09-28 Thread John Markowitz


On Sep 28, 2010, at 7:00 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Sep 28, 2010, at 4:44 AM, John Markowitz dadbe...@gmail.com  
wrote:


I have a problem with mail address's between computers, I want to  
find a way to sync the address's between 5 Macs preferably with a  
thumb drive or Ethernet.

I don't use Apple address book so I need a method without that.



If you don't use Address Book, or Mail.app perhaps you could  
enlighten us as to which mail app you DO use so we don't suggest  
something like a pen and  paper address book.




Sorry about that. I use Apple Mail app and when I go between mail  
boxes the address's that are available seem to only be ones  
previously used on the particular box even though they're all in the  
same app. I want to have all email address's that are in the mail app  
available to me in all the boxes.



John M
Placentia CA
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Re: Mail address export import

2010-09-28 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Sep 28, 2010, at 7:24 AM, John Markowitz wrote:

 
 Sorry about that. I use Apple Mail app and when I go between mail boxes the 
 address's that are available seem to only be ones previously used on the 
 particular box even though they're all in the same app. I want to have all 
 email address's that are in the mail app available to me in all the boxes.

Well, first, yes you ARE using Address Book, any addresses you save are stored 
there if you're using Mail.

Second, I suspect you're talking about the collected addresses, which can be 
seen via Mail  Windows  Previous Recipients, which is a collection of 
addresses you have sent mail to who are not in your address book.

These are stored..in Address Book. (Toldja you were using it!)

Specifically these are the addresses in the (alas, a binary sqlite) file 
AddressBook.data.previous in:

/Users/username/Library/Application\ Support/AddressBook

To synch everything between multiple macs, the simplest is via MobileMe's 
synchronization function.

The Dean of the College here uses it to keep his (ginormous) address book 
synchronized between 4 computers and his iPhone, and it works flawlessly.

However, you seem to have switched mid-stream.

first you say: I want to find a way to sync the address's between 5 Macs 
preferably with a thumb drive or Ethernet.  (see  above, MobileMe, or 
http://tinyurl.com/bemuad, http://tinyurl.com/pvlxv4)

but in your follow up you say:I use Apple Mail app and when I go between mail 
boxes the address's that are available seem to only be ones previously used on 
the particular box even though they're all in the same app.

This is a horse of a different kettle of fish. Here you're describing not 
having the same addresses available between mailboxes on a single Mac. This is 
a weird error, not normal behavior. 



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Re: Mail address export import

2010-09-28 Thread John Markowitz




but in your follow up you say:I use Apple Mail app and when I go  
between mail boxes the address's that are available seem to only be  
ones previously used on the particular box even though they're all  
in the same app.


This is a horse of a different kettle of fish. Here you're  
describing not having the same addresses available between  
mailboxes on a single Mac. This is a weird error, not normal behavior.






I have 6 mail boxes I use 1 inbox that displays all the mail,  
depending on which mail box I write from indicates the address's  
available to me, this is the problem I'm having, I always thought  
Address Book had something to do with this but for some reason I'm  
doing something wrong. Once I've used an address in a particular mail  
box it is available the next time around. It's some what of a chore  
to hunt down an address from another box to use it. Also in the Mail  
app what does Synchronize all accounts mean? I've clicked it many  
time thinking this is the way to get every box in sync.


So I guess this is a two part problem, once I get all the address's  
working on all the boxes I need to move the whole package to all the  
other machines. My reason for the USB drive transfer is I don't  
always have internet at all times at all machines.


John M
Placentia CA
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Re: Mail address export import

2010-09-28 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Sep 28, 2010, at 9:24 AM, John Markowitz wrote:
 
 I have 6 mail boxes I use 1 inbox that displays all the mail, depending on 
 which mail box I write from indicates the address's available to me, this is 
 the problem I'm having, I always thought Address Book had something to do 
 with this but for some reason I'm doing something wrong.

Just to be clear, here when you say 'mail box' you mean a different email 
account, correct? So that you have a unified inbox, and if you click the reveal 
triangle next to the Inbox you see a separate  Inbox for each account, correct?

If you open the Previous Recipients window, the contents should change when you 
switch between those inboxes...if this is the problem.

If it doesn't, then the issue is something else, like LDAP address books on the 
server acting as the source of address info. This is pretty unlikely unless all 
six accounts are different corporate Exchange or IMAP servers.


 Once I've used an address in a particular mail box it is available the next 
 time around.

This is correct behavior.

 It's some what of a chore to hunt down an address from another box to use it.

This is not.

What version of Mac OS and Mail are you using?

 Also in the Mail app what does Synchronize all accounts mean? I've clicked it 
 many time thinking this is the way to get every box in sync.

This is used to synchronize email between the server and Mail. All your 
addresses SHOULD be saved in a single unified 'Previous Recipients' list or 
address book.

One way to fix this is to use Address Book, actually:

Start Address Book and select File  Export Address Book Archive. This will 
get you a 'back to the way it was' point in Address book.

Open the Previous Recipients window, and select all or go through and 
command-click on the addresses you want to save. Click on 'Add to Address Book'.

Do this for each account. Now all your addresses are in a central location 
usable by all the accounts.

In the future, as you get mail from someone you want to keep their address, 
control-click (or right-click) on the address in the email and select 'Add to 
Address Book'.

Once you get the Address Book synched, you can then 'Export as an Address Book 
Archive', save the file onto a USB drive and import the file on the 
non-ointernet connected system.

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Re: Mail address export import

2010-09-28 Thread John Markowitz




Just to be clear, here when you say 'mail box' you mean a different  
email account, correct? So that you have a unified inbox, and if  
you click the reveal triangle next to the Inbox you see a separate   
Inbox for each account, correct?



Yes this is correct.

If you open the Previous Recipients window, the contents should  
change when you switch between those inboxes...if this is the problem.


This does change, I've never noticed this window before. I'm now  
thinking there's a way to copy these to the other boxes? If so do  
they duplicate or just add new?
It's not going to kill me to try some of this, I keep everything  
backed up.



What version of Mac OS and Mail are you using?

I use 10.4 11  10.5.8  and 10.6.4. I of coarse use the resident Mail  
apps per OS. I search an address in the spotlight box and then copy  
and paste. It's a little hairy with a lot of pages open.


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Re: Mail address export import

2010-09-28 Thread Tina K.

On 2010/09/28 10:05, Bruce Johnson wrote:

To synch everything between multiple macs, the simplest is via MobileMe's 
synchronization function.


If you are running 10.5 or above there is also the free synch 
application/service fruux:


http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/28750/fruux

fruux will also synch iCal calendars, Safari bookmarks, and Mail notes.

I use it and it's not perfect (sometimes synch fails) but for as often I 
change machines it works great.


Tina

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Re: Mail address export import

2010-09-28 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Sep 28, 2010, at 11:54 AM, John Markowitz wrote:
 
 
 If you open the Previous Recipients window, the contents should change when 
 you switch between those inboxes...if this is the problem.
 
 This does change, I've never noticed this window before. I'm now thinking 
 there's a way to copy these to the other boxes? If so do they duplicate or 
 just add new?
 It's not going to kill me to try some of this, I keep everything backed up.

This is puzzling. I have 4 email accounts set up on my system, and this 
behavior is NOT replicated (10.6.4) The list is always the same, and includes 
recipients from all accounts.

Now the only difference I could think of is that my accounts are all set up as 
IMAP accounts...

But as I said, adding the addresses you want to your Address book via the 
button in Previous Recipients or as you rad emails should be the fix for this.

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Re: Mail address export import

2010-09-28 Thread Len Gerstel


On Sep 28, 2010, at 4:01 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On Sep 28, 2010, at 11:54 AM, John Markowitz wrote:



If you open the Previous Recipients window, the contents should  
change when you switch between those inboxes...if this is the  
problem.


This does change, I've never noticed this window before. I'm now  
thinking there's a way to copy these to the other boxes? If so do  
they duplicate or just add new?
It's not going to kill me to try some of this, I keep everything  
backed up.


This is puzzling. I have 4 email accounts set up on my system, and  
this behavior is NOT replicated (10.6.4) The list is always the  
same, and includes recipients from all accounts.


Now the only difference I could think of is that my accounts are  
all set up as IMAP accounts...


Nope, I have all 7 set up as POP with all recipients from all  
accounts in the to: field as I type.


Len

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