Re: What software and cables do I need in order to use an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition (128 MB) for OS 9.2 and 10.4.11?
Glen, No they aren't. However, I like to have all of the software and "stuff" that came with with whatever I buy. I downloaded the drivers and the manual. From what I read on your previous E-mail the "adapter cable" is pretty standard. Thanks for your help, Neal Lewis On 12/17/16 5:33 PM, 'Glen' via G-Group wrote: Are special ATI drivers needed? I used this card in an MDD in 9.2.2 and 10.4.11 with no problems. I thought the drivers were in the system software. Am I missing something? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What software and cables do I need in order to use an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition (128 MB) for OS 9.2 and 10.4.11?
Are special ATI drivers needed? I used this card in an MDD in 9.2.2 and 10.4.11 with no problems. I thought the drivers were in the system software. Am I missing something? From: Kris Tilford To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2016 3:06 PM Subject: Re: What software and cables do I need in order to use an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition (128 MB) for OS 9.2 and 10.4.11? On Dec 17, 2016, at 1:43 AM, W. Neal Lewis wrote: The Wayback Machine (Internet Archive) has gone far too political for me to stomach. So thank you for the suggestion, but not going there. How can an ‘archive’ be political? It’s like a public library, it doesn’t create content, it preserves content. You’re saying it preserves the ‘wrong’ content for your personal politics? I plan to check with AMD to see if the software is still available from them. You’re about a decade too late. The minute AMD bought ATI, all the old ATI software was lost, the ATI website disappeared, you couldn’t get any meaningful response from AMD. You’re gonna be outta luck here, unless you find an archive site. It is rather interesting, but a very large number of the old sites have vanished without a trace. Welcome to the future. A PPC Mac isn’t going to help much here. For the price of Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition you could get an entire hackintosh that supports current software standards. I’ve been given free computers 10x as powerful as a PPC G4. From an energy usage standpoint, you could probably pay for a new computer with the energy savings alone. This is why LCD monitors replaced CRT so quickly, the energy savings alone paid for the new monitor, same as with LED lighting. A laptop provides the best flops per dollar/watt for normalized consumer use. Old 2008-2009 Mac Minis & laptops can run Sierra using Sierra Patch Tool for very reasonable prices.-- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What software and cables do I need in order to use an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition (128 MB) for OS 9.2 and 10.4.11?
On Dec 17, 2016, at 1:43 AM, W. Neal Lewis wrote: > > The Wayback Machine (Internet Archive) has gone far too political for me to > stomach. So thank you for the suggestion, but not going there. How can an ‘archive’ be political? It’s like a public library, it doesn’t create content, it preserves content. You’re saying it preserves the ‘wrong’ content for your personal politics? > I plan to check with AMD to see if the software is still available from them. You’re about a decade too late. The minute AMD bought ATI, all the old ATI software was lost, the ATI website disappeared, you couldn’t get any meaningful response from AMD. You’re gonna be outta luck here, unless you find an archive site. > It is rather interesting, but a very large number of the old sites have > vanished without a trace. Welcome to the future. A PPC Mac isn’t going to help much here. For the price of Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition you could get an entire hackintosh that supports current software standards. I’ve been given free computers 10x as powerful as a PPC G4. From an energy usage standpoint, you could probably pay for a new computer with the energy savings alone. This is why LCD monitors replaced CRT so quickly, the energy savings alone paid for the new monitor, same as with LED lighting. A laptop provides the best flops per dollar/watt for normalized consumer use. Old 2008-2009 Mac Minis & laptops can run Sierra using Sierra Patch Tool for very reasonable prices. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What software and cables do I need in order to use an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition (128 MB) for OS 9.2 and 10.4.11?
Ken, It's a sawtooth Mac. The page of information from AMD/ATI at the web site on lowendmac goes to a non-existent page now. I will probably need to contact the AMD User Forum for help. Thanks for your information. Neal On 12/16/16 11:29 AM, Ken Daggett wrote: On 15 Dec 2016, at 21:08:07 PM PST, Neal wrote: What software and cables do I need in order to use an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition for OS 9.2 and 10.4.11? - Well, I have had a MDD for some time (dying so I am now using a G5) and have had no issues, but you might start here: http://lowendmac.com/video/agp/radeon-9000.html Ken -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What software and cables do I need in order to use an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition (128 MB) for OS 9.2 and 10.4.11?
Mac User #330250, This is a sawtooth G4. The ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition (128 Mb version) should be compatible with the computer. I looked at the article. There should be no need to disable pins 3 and 11. The Macintosh Garden (what there is of it) appears to be mostly games now. The rest of it has largely vanished. The Wayback Machine (Internet Archive) has gone far too political for me to stomach. So thank you for the suggestion, but not going there. I plan to check with AMD to see if the software is still available from them. It is rather interesting, but a very large number of the old sites have vanished without a trace. Any thoughts? Neal Lewis On 12/16/16 11:52 AM, Mac User #330250 wrote: Hi! Depending on the specific Radeon 9000 card, you may need to disable pins 3 and 11 for most G4 Macs that originally included ADC ports on the original graphics card. Read here: http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11 If it's the Mac Edition, you may still have to check its specific compatibility. (G5 editions may not work on G4 Macs and vice versa.) Drivers, if needed at all (Mac OS 9.2 and 10.4 support the 9000 out-of-the-box), should be available through the Wayback Machine or at the garden. Cheers, Mac User #330250 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What software and cables do I need in order to use an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition (128 MB) for OS 9.2 and 10.4.11?
Hi! Depending on the specific Radeon 9000 card, you may need to disable pins 3 and 11 for most G4 Macs that originally included ADC ports on the original graphics card. Read here: http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11 If it's the Mac Edition, you may still have to check its specific compatibility. (G5 editions may not work on G4 Macs and vice versa.) Drivers, if needed at all (Mac OS 9.2 and 10.4 support the 9000 out-of-the-box), should be available through the Wayback Machine or at the garden. Cheers, Mac User #330250 -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What software and cables do I need in order to use an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition (128 MB) for OS 9.2 and 10.4.11?
On 15 Dec 2016, at 21:08:07 PM PST, Neal wrote: What software and cables do I need in order to use an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition for OS 9.2 and 10.4.11? - Well, I have had a MDD for some time (dying so I am now using a G5) and have had no issues, but you might start here: http://lowendmac.com/video/agp/radeon-9000.html Ken -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
What software and cables do I need in order to use an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition (128 MB) for OS 9.2 and 10.4.11?
What software and cables do I need in order to use an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Mac Edition for OS 9.2 and 10.4.11? I normally like to have the user manual and software when I get something (or know that I can find those items). The card would be going into a: Machine Name:Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics) Machine Model:PowerMac3,1 CPU Type:PowerPC G4 (2.1) Number Of CPUs:1 CPU Speed:1 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU):256 KB L3 Cache (per CPU):2 MB Memory:1 GB Bus Speed:100 MHz Boot ROM Version:4.2.8f1 Serial Number:SG9460FLHM1 Thanks for any help. Neal Lewis -- -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "G-Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to g3-5-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Radeon 9000
On 12/19/10 7:14 PM, dc wrote: On Dec 19, 1:22 pm, John Carmonne wrote: Does any one know if a Radeon 9000 Pro video card out of a G4 MDD will run in a G4 Cube? Would there be an advantage over a Radeon 7500 on the same Apple 20" cinema display? It will work but you will need to unscrew the metal backplate in order to make it fit in the Cube. If the 9000 Pro has a fan you might need to replace the fan with a smaller fan. It will give you better video than the 7500. The 9000 Pro in my MDD does not have a fan, but does run very hot. I would take heat into consideration if installing one into a Cube. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Radeon 9000
On Dec 19, 1:22 pm, John Carmonne wrote: > Does any one know if a Radeon 9000 Pro video card out of a G4 MDD will run in > a G4 Cube? > Would there be an advantage over a Radeon 7500 on the same Apple 20" cinema > display? It will work but you will need to unscrew the metal backplate in order to make it fit in the Cube. If the 9000 Pro has a fan you might need to replace the fan with a smaller fan. It will give you better video than the 7500. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Radeon 9000
Does any one know if a Radeon 9000 Pro video card out of a G4 MDD will run in a G4 Cube? Would there be an advantage over a Radeon 7500 on the same Apple 20" cinema display? John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Brother Eye wrote:
> After all we've been through, anyone want to hazard a guess as to why
> I can't upgrade to 10.4.1? It states my volume does not me the
> necessary requirements, it has plenty of available space??? Sheeesh!
Here's a bunch of guesses:
1) did you remove the SCSI card and try installing using only one
stick of RAM?
2) Any chance you've got the wrong version of Tiger (the Intel version
rather than PPC).
3) Any chance your HD is partitioned with the wrong partition scheme?
It should be "Apple Partition Scheme" for PPC Macs, rather than "GUID"
used by Intel, or "Master Boot Record" used by PCs. The file format
"HFS+ journaled" is already correct, but it is independent of the
partition scheme, which must be correct to begin with. You can check
the partition scheme in Disk Utility by highlighting the HD and
looking at the bottom.
4) If you're trying to install onto your 25 GB HD ("Who Knows") there
isn't enough free space (only 2.53 GB freespace), you'll need to
install onto the 112 GB HD ("Macintosh HD") instead. Normally, you'll
need at least 4-5 GB freespace for installing Tiger.
5) Your Radeon card has old firmware, version 127, while the current
version should be at least v.135 or 136. You'll need to get the Radeon
August 2005 firmware update program and update this firmware, but I
don't think this would be the reason you can't install Tiger, but
Tiger is picky and does require the latest firmware for all Radeon
cards, so you must upgrade still. Here's a link to download the ATI
Radeon August 2005 ROM Update:
Follow the instructions in the Read Me and after it's done, check the
version in System Profiler. This is important, do this upgrade.
Also, your DVD-RW has older firmware, version SB01 where there is a
newer version SB02 available. You'll need a Windows PC to upgrade the
firmware on the DVD-RW, but this is probably not important if it's
working well for you now. Here's a link to the newer SB02 firmware:
Also, if you have access to a Windows PC, it appears your 25 GB HD
(the Maxtor 52732U6) is an ATA66 HD, but Maxtor was converting to
ATA100 at the time, and there's a good possibility you could change
this HD to ATA100 using an old Maxtor DOS program called "66 to 100".
Again, this isn't causing your problems installing Tiger, but it might
make this old HD work a tiny bit faster. I don't think this is
something you'll want to do, but I can send you the DOS program if you
decide to try.
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Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
After all we've been through, anyone want to hazard a guess as to why I can't upgrade to 10.4.1? It states my volume does not me the necessary requirements, it has plenty of available space??? Sheeesh! On Dec 16, 11:33 am, Bill Connelly wrote: > On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Brother Eye wrote: > > > > > > > Everyone, > > I am happy to report that my PowerMac G4 is now running smoothly at > > 10.4. I think the influx of suggestions helped me get out of my tunnel > > vision view of the problem. I ran the CMD+V command as suggested and > > found both a warning about the SCSI and then a long IO ATA message and > > the machine never progressed from there. So I first started with the > > easiest solution and pulled the SCSI and tried again. The SCSI warning > > was gone of course, but the IO message remained. From there I decided > > to tackle the ATA issue and as Carmonnes and others suggested, I > > removed the smaller OG HDD that was installed and left only the large > > HDD with Tiger installed in place. Once I started back up everything > > ran fine, Tiger booted and loaded and now the system actually runs > > much faster than it did when I was on Panther. At some point I will > > probably add in a larger HDD I have but keep the HDD order the same > > and see if that causes any issues. Thanks again to everyone for your > > input, this is truly what the internet is really all about! > > > Happy Holidays, > > > Ty > > When you add in a second ATA drive, if on the same cable, make sure > you have both drives set properly, "Master" and "Slave", or "Cable > Select" if that is what they function better as. > > Haven't been following all the details of the thread, but perhaps that > was contributing to the original problem? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
On Dec 16, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Brother Eye wrote: > Everyone, > I am happy to report that my PowerMac G4 is now running smoothly at > 10.4. I think the influx of suggestions helped me get out of my tunnel > vision view of the problem. I ran the CMD+V command as suggested and > found both a warning about the SCSI and then a long IO ATA message and > the machine never progressed from there. So I first started with the > easiest solution and pulled the SCSI and tried again. The SCSI warning > was gone of course, but the IO message remained. From there I decided > to tackle the ATA issue and as Carmonnes and others suggested, I > removed the smaller OG HDD that was installed and left only the large > HDD with Tiger installed in place. Once I started back up everything > ran fine, Tiger booted and loaded and now the system actually runs > much faster than it did when I was on Panther. At some point I will > probably add in a larger HDD I have but keep the HDD order the same > and see if that causes any issues. Thanks again to everyone for your > input, this is truly what the internet is really all about! > > Happy Holidays, > > Ty > When you add in a second ATA drive, if on the same cable, make sure you have both drives set properly, "Master" and "Slave", or "Cable Select" if that is what they function better as. Haven't been following all the details of the thread, but perhaps that was contributing to the original problem? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
Everyone, I am happy to report that my PowerMac G4 is now running smoothly at 10.4. I think the influx of suggestions helped me get out of my tunnel vision view of the problem. I ran the CMD+V command as suggested and found both a warning about the SCSI and then a long IO ATA message and the machine never progressed from there. So I first started with the easiest solution and pulled the SCSI and tried again. The SCSI warning was gone of course, but the IO message remained. From there I decided to tackle the ATA issue and as Carmonnes and others suggested, I removed the smaller OG HDD that was installed and left only the large HDD with Tiger installed in place. Once I started back up everything ran fine, Tiger booted and loaded and now the system actually runs much faster than it did when I was on Panther. At some point I will probably add in a larger HDD I have but keep the HDD order the same and see if that causes any issues. Thanks again to everyone for your input, this is truly what the internet is really all about! Happy Holidays, Ty On Dec 15, 6:41 pm, Stewie de Young wrote: > John Carmonnes approach is exactly what I do to troubleshoot any Mac. > Remove all variables down to a bare bones system. > Disconnect any PCI cards , hard drives except one for the boot drive, all ram > sticks except for one and any other USB hub etc. > Use an Apple keyboard and boot from the hard drive then see is you have any > problems. > I'd wipe the hard drive and then see about installing Tiger straight onto it. > Then slowly bring back all the things you disconnected to start with and test > your system at each point. > > Stewie > > From: tyrusman...@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:48:54 -0500 > Subject: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger > To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > > I have the above Mac (Power MacG4-AGP) and I have been able to reach 10.3.9 > upgrade with only occasional prohibitory signs on startup, but every > installation of Tiger I have tried gives me the prohibitory on each boot. One > post here led me to think it might be a problem with the Radeon card, I > upgraded the firmware and tried again with no luck. I have followed every tip > or hint from Apple's support forums, clearing NRAM etc. Has anyone here had a > similar issue? I can give more specs if needed, but I wanted to get a sense > of whether anyone had this problem first. > > Thanks for any help. > > -- > > You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for > those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power > Macs. > > The list FAQ is athttp://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtmland our netiquette > guide is athttp://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > > To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list > > _ > Use Messenger in your Hotmail inbox Find out > howhttp://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/hotmail/article/823454/web-im-for-h... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
RE: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
John Carmonnes approach is exactly what I do to troubleshoot any Mac. Remove all variables down to a bare bones system. Disconnect any PCI cards , hard drives except one for the boot drive, all ram sticks except for one and any other USB hub etc. Use an Apple keyboard and boot from the hard drive then see is you have any problems. I'd wipe the hard drive and then see about installing Tiger straight onto it. Then slowly bring back all the things you disconnected to start with and test your system at each point. Stewie From: tyrusman...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:48:54 -0500 Subject: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com I have the above Mac (Power MacG4-AGP) and I have been able to reach 10.3.9 upgrade with only occasional prohibitory signs on startup, but every installation of Tiger I have tried gives me the prohibitory on each boot. One post here led me to think it might be a problem with the Radeon card, I upgraded the firmware and tried again with no luck. I have followed every tip or hint from Apple's support forums, clearing NRAM etc. Has anyone here had a similar issue? I can give more specs if needed, but I wanted to get a sense of whether anyone had this problem first. Thanks for any help. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list _ Use Messenger in your Hotmail inbox Find out how http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/hotmail/article/823454/web-im-for-hotmail-is-here -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
Everyone, Thank you so much for your advice and suggestions. I will start working through all of them and update this thread as applicable. I have recently replaced the old DVD drive and I thought that might help but not yet. I will focus on the SCSI and the RAM since those are things I haven't dealt with and were upgraded before I got the system. Again thank you. Ty On Dec 15, 3:59 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: > On Dec 15, 2009, at 12:48 PM, John Niven wrote: > > > --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Bruce Johnson > > wrote: > >> system to 10.4; it turned out to be the flaky external dvd > >> drive I was > >> using to install it. > > > Doesn't the install disk do a media check first? I know you can > > bypass that but I always thought that was a good idea. then you know > > the disk and drive are OK before you start. > > It was passing the check. It was a weird issue with the external FW > enclosure that for some reason wasn't showing up on the check. I ended > up installing the DVD drive internally and it worked. > > -- > Bruce Johnson > > "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
Not the CMD-V, but whenever I try to boot in 10.4 I generally have to reinstall 10.3, whatever happens seems to corrupt both installations? I am learning about troubleshooting Macs, so I am not 100% sure but this seems to be the behavior. I will try again and report any findings. Thanks. On Dec 15, 2:44 pm, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Dec 15, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Brother Eye wrote: > > > I will also try the cmd+v and see if that > > gives me anything generally all it does is make the computer > > unbootable unless I do a fresh install of 10.3: > > There is no way that Cmd-v should make your computer unbootable. > It sounds like you have some larger problem perhaps. > Bruce's advice on checking the memory is a good place to start. > Also, make sure the PRAM battery is good. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
On Dec 15, 2009, at 12:59 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Dec 15, 2009, at 12:48 PM, John Niven wrote: > >> --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Bruce Johnson >> wrote: >>> system to 10.4; it turned out to be the flaky external dvd >>> drive I was >>> using to install it. >> >> Doesn't the install disk do a media check first? I know you can >> bypass that but I always thought that was a good idea. then you know >> the disk and drive are OK before you start. > > It was passing the check. It was a weird issue with the external FW > enclosure that for some reason wasn't showing up on the check. I ended > up installing the DVD drive internally and it worked. > > -- > Bruce Johnson > > "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD > Maybe this story will be of some use. I got a G4 MDD 1.0 dual That a friend gave me because of the same problem you speak of. He was told that the Mother board, well you know the rest. Sometimes it would half boot. maybe boot then panic after a few sec. many panics during boot, no response of any kind and so on. I spent some days getting this machine running and what a jewell it has become for me, a real workhorse. I found that the machine likes to have the boot drive in the first 100 bay (against the front wall). I partitioned my 500GB drive to 190 for the boot drive because I boot OS9 also. I disconnected every item from the machine including the RAM and PRAM Batt and HDDs. Let the thing sit for a couple. Cleaned the Ram slots. Then the CUDA down for 30 sec. Install the one HDD, RAM and PRAM batt. I installed OS9 (with a special ROM for MDD) first and then OS 10.4.11 This worked for me. John wtmm -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
On Dec 15, 2009, at 12:48 PM, John Niven wrote: > --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Bruce Johnson > wrote: >> system to 10.4; it turned out to be the flaky external dvd >> drive I was >> using to install it. > > Doesn't the install disk do a media check first? I know you can > bypass that but I always thought that was a good idea. then you know > the disk and drive are OK before you start. It was passing the check. It was a weird issue with the external FW enclosure that for some reason wasn't showing up on the check. I ended up installing the DVD drive internally and it worked. -- Bruce Johnson "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
> PCI/AGP Cards: > > ADPT,1686806-04: > > Name: ADPT,2930CU > Type: scsi > Bus: PCI > Slot: SLOT-D > Vendor ID: 0x9004 > Device ID: 0x5078 > Subsystem Vendor ID: 0x9004 > Subsystem ID: 0x7850 > Revision ID: 0x0003 There are a couple of large threads on the Apple Discussion Boards about Adaptec SCSI board problems under Tiger, including kernel panics at startup or very soon after. There is a kernel extension that seems very involved, the one named Adaptec290X-2930.kext. Try pulling the Adaptec card and installing on an ATA drive. If you then remove the Adaptec290X-2930.kext from the System/Library/Extensions folder you should be able to put the SCSI card back in but you probably won't be able to deep sleep the machine. Make sure the card has the latest firmware, if it's still at v1.0 you need to upgrade it. For good measure I also set all my SCSI IDs at high numbers (5, 6, 7, 8, etc.) because Tiger reads SCSI devices as ATA devices and sometimes panics when it can't distinguish between buses. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
I had EXACTLY the same problem in my B&W, I also thought it was the SCSI card, but when I removed it, the same problem, I was stuck with 10.3, when I attempted to install Tiger, i only got Kernel Panics in the Installer (when it was something like 30% ), finally I removed the last RAM stick I installed and it worked with no problems, then I reinstalled the RAM stick and now my Mac is working with Tiger happily , so, my suggestion is to install with one stick of Ram installed and then put the rest in. That worked for me. Sorry about my english Greetings from Chile Jorge Quiroz,. On Dec 15, 5:15 pm, Clark Martin wrote: > Brother Eye wrote: > > Specs below as requested, I will also try the cmd+v and see if that > > gives me anything generally all it does is make the computer > > unbootable unless I do a fresh install of 10.3: > > PCI/AGP Cards: > > > ADPT,1686806-04: > > > Name: ADPT,2930CU > > Type: scsi > > Bus: PCI > > Slot: SLOT-D > > Vendor ID: 0x9004 > > Device ID: 0x5078 > > Subsystem Vendor ID: 0x9004 > > Subsystem ID: 0x7850 > > Revision ID: 0x0003 > > This may be your problem, the SCSI card. There is some reports of > problems with it under Tiger. As a first test I'd pull the card and see > how it boots. > > -- > Clark Martin > Redwood City, CA, USA > Macintosh / Internet Consulting > > "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
Brother Eye wrote: > Specs below as requested, I will also try the cmd+v and see if that > gives me anything generally all it does is make the computer > unbootable unless I do a fresh install of 10.3: > PCI/AGP Cards: > > ADPT,1686806-04: > > Name: ADPT,2930CU > Type: scsi > Bus:PCI > Slot: SLOT-D > Vendor ID: 0x9004 > Device ID: 0x5078 > Subsystem Vendor ID:0x9004 > Subsystem ID: 0x7850 > Revision ID:0x0003 This may be your problem, the SCSI card. There is some reports of problems with it under Tiger. As a first test I'd pull the card and see how it boots. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Bruce Johnson wrote: > system to 10.4; it turned out to be the flaky external dvd > drive I was > using to install it. Doesn't the install disk do a media check first? I know you can bypass that but I always thought that was a good idea. then you know the disk and drive are OK before you start. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
On Dec 15, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Brother Eye wrote: > I will also try the cmd+v and see if that > gives me anything generally all it does is make the computer > unbootable unless I do a fresh install of 10.3: There is no way that Cmd-v should make your computer unbootable. It sounds like you have some larger problem perhaps. Bruce's advice on checking the memory is a good place to start. Also, make sure the PRAM battery is good. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Brother Eye wrote: > Specs below as requested, I will also try the cmd+v and see if that > gives me anything generally all it does is make the computer > unbootable unless I do a fresh install of 10.3: Check your memory. 10.4 is pickier than 10.3. Download and install Applejack with memtest, and let it go. replace any questionable dimms. Have you tried a different Tiger installer disk or a different drive? I just remembered once having a similar problem updating a similar system to 10.4; it turned out to be the flaky external dvd drive I was using to install it. On mine it would go through the install just fine, but then it would barf on the reboot. Since 10.3 is on CD's you might have a drive with the dvd part that is failing, or the tiger DVD itself is bad. -- Bruce Johnson "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
Specs below as requested, I will also try the cmd+v and see if that gives me anything generally all it does is make the computer unbootable unless I do a fresh install of 10.3: Hardware: Hardware Overview: Machine Model:Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics) CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (2.9) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed:500 MHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 1 MB Memory: 1 GB Bus Speed:100 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.2.8f1 Serial Number:XB02256UHSG Sales Order Number: M7629LL/A Software: System Software Overview: System Version: Mac OS X 10.3.9 (7W98) Kernel Version: Darwin 7.9.0 Memory: DIMM0/J21: Size: 256 MB Type: SDRAM Speed:PC100-322S DIMM1/J22: Size: 256 MB Type: SDRAM Speed:PC100-222S DIMM2/J23: Size: 256 MB Type: SDRAM Speed:PC100-222S DIMM3/J24: Size: 256 MB Type: SDRAM Speed:PC100-222S PCI/AGP Cards: ADPT,1686806-04: Name: ADPT,2930CU Type: scsi Bus: PCI Slot: SLOT-D Vendor ID:0x9004 Device ID:0x5078 Subsystem Vendor ID: 0x9004 Subsystem ID: 0x7850 Revision ID: 0x0003 ATY,RV250: Type: display Bus: AGP Slot: SLOT-A VRAM (Total): 128 MB Vendor: ATI (0x1002) Device ID:0x4966 Revision ID: 0x0001 ROM Revision: 113-99703-127 Display: Type: display Display Type: CRT VRAM (In Use):128 MB Resolution: 1280 x 1024 @ 60 Hz Depth:32-bit Color Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes ATY,Radeon9000i_B: Status: No display connected ATA: ATA-4 Bus: Maxtor 52732U6: Capacity: 25.53 GB Model:Maxtor 52732U6 Revision: DA620XS0 Serial Number:K60AM9WC Removable Media: No Detachable Drive: No BSD Name: disk0 Protocol: ATA Unit Number: 0 Socket Type: Internal OS9 Drivers: Yes Who Knows: Capacity: 25.53 GB Available:2.53 GB Writable: Yes File System: Journaled HFS+ BSD Name: disk0s9 Mount Point: / WDC WD1200BB-00FTA0: Capacity: 111.79 GB Model:WDC WD1200BB-00FTA0 Revision: 15.05R15 Serial Number:WD-WMAES3953327 Removable Media: No Detachable Drive: No BSD Name: disk1 Protocol: ATA Unit Number: 1 Socket Type: Internal OS9 Drivers: Yes Macintosh HD: Capacity: 111.66 GB Available:107.09 GB Writable: Yes File System: Journaled HFS+ BSD Name: disk1s10 Mount Point: /Volumes/Macintosh HD ATA-3 Bus: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S222L: Manufacturer: TSSTcorp Model:TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S222L Revision: SB01 Serial Number: Drive Type: CD-RW/DVD-RW Disc Burning: Not Supported Removable Media: Yes Detachable Drive: No Protocol: ATAPI Unit Number: 0 Socket Type: Internal On Dec 15, 12:25 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: > On Dec 15, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Tyrus Manuel wrote: > > > I have the above Mac (Power MacG4-AGP) and I have been able to reach > > 10.3.9 > > upgrade with only occasional prohibitory signs on startup, but every > > installation of Tiger I have tried gives me the prohibitory on each > > boot. > > That's very unusual, I have the same system and never had an issue > upgrading with any OS on it, other than needing to update the system > firmware when I installed an upgraded CPU. Full specs please. > > -- > Bruce Johnson > > "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
On Dec 15, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Tyrus Manuel wrote: > I have the above Mac (Power MacG4-AGP) and I have been able to reach > 10.3.9 > upgrade with only occasional prohibitory signs on startup, but every > installation of Tiger I have tried gives me the prohibitory on each > boot. That's very unusual, I have the same system and never had an issue upgrading with any OS on it, other than needing to update the system firmware when I installed an upgraded CPU. Full specs please. -- Bruce Johnson "Wherever you go, there you are" B. Banzai, PhD -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Tyrus Manuel wrote: > I can give more specs if needed, but I wanted to get a sense of > whether anyone had this problem first. When you're getting a kernel panic it's nice to know what the panic text says. Since this is repeatable, use Cmd-v keyboard keys at startup to get the verbose dialog. When it panics, the text should mention which kext is most directly responsible and also the dependencies. This will tell you what is causing the problem. If you post the panic text, someone may be able to tell you how to rectify the situation. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Power MacG4-AGP, Radeon 9000 video card can't upgrade to Tiger
I have the above Mac (Power MacG4-AGP) and I have been able to reach 10.3.9 upgrade with only occasional prohibitory signs on startup, but every installation of Tiger I have tried gives me the prohibitory on each boot. One post here led me to think it might be a problem with the Radeon card, I upgraded the firmware and tried again with no luck. I have followed every tip or hint from Apple's support forums, clearing NRAM etc. Has anyone here had a similar issue? I can give more specs if needed, but I wanted to get a sense of whether anyone had this problem first. Thanks for any help. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ATI Radeon 9000 PRO into upgraded DA
On Oct 11, 2008, at 7:02 PM, Doug Burton wrote: >> > > If you get the chance you might want to give the DVI a try Bill. > Made a big difference in the sharpness of the image for me. I > noticed a lot of jaggies with the VGA connection. JMHO Actually ... turns out I still am! My Sony CPD-G220R is running off the DVI, but has to have the DVI to VGA converter I mentioned earlier. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ATI Radeon 9000 PRO into upgraded DA
On Oct 11, 2008, at 11:37 AM, insightinmind wrote: > > > On Oct 11, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Doug Burton wrote: > >> >> Question 1: Will this card be properly recognized by 10.5.5 which is >> currently installed, or do I need to install the card and then re- >> install the OS? >> > > > I installed an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro under Leopard 10.5.5 and found the > Apple supplied drivers were the ones to use ... not any drivers > "supplied" by ATI (important point). My guess is that they are > already there? > > I just use the VGA connector. No info on DVI, except on other cards I > used a DVI to VGA converter so my monitor connection would fit > closer, as the VGA connector wasn't far enough away from the PCI slot > opening (on a PowerPC 8500/9500 using an ATI Radeon 7000ME). That was > a installation advantage for me at the time. > > Bill Connelly If you get the chance you might want to give the DVI a try Bill. Made a big difference in the sharpness of the image for me. I noticed a lot of jaggies with the VGA connection. JMHO Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ATI Radeon 9000 PRO into upgraded DA
On Oct 11, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Doug Burton wrote: > > Question 1: Will this card be properly recognized by 10.5.5 which is > currently installed, or do I need to install the card and then re- > install the OS? It was recognized > Question 2: What is the advantage/disadvantage of using the DVI > connection rather than the traditional VGA? Much better looking picture! Seems faster, although that may be the increased RAM to 1 Gb. Yes the card arrived in the mail today and as suspected, DVD's now play fine. Plus I am really liking this Acer 22" widescreen LCD monitor. This should make a good system for me for awhile. Just a message from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: ATI Radeon 9000 PRO into upgraded DA
On Oct 11, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Doug Burton wrote: > > Question 1: Will this card be properly recognized by 10.5.5 which is > currently installed, or do I need to install the card and then re- > install the OS? > I installed an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro under Leopard 10.5.5 and found the Apple supplied drivers were the ones to use ... not any drivers "supplied" by ATI (important point). My guess is that they are already there? I just use the VGA connector. No info on DVI, except on other cards I used a DVI to VGA converter so my monitor connection would fit closer, as the VGA connector wasn't far enough away from the PCI slot opening (on a PowerPC 8500/9500 using an ATI Radeon 7000ME). That was a installation advantage for me at the time. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
ATI Radeon 9000 PRO into upgraded DA
Question 1: Will this card be properly recognized by 10.5.5 which is currently installed, or do I need to install the card and then re- install the OS? Question 2: What is the advantage/disadvantage of using the DVI connection rather than the traditional VGA? Just some questions from Doug... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
